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"Satellites "... of unknown origin.
In its work " The new one on the flying saucers ", Editions "I have read", 1978,in France, the journalist Frank Edwards evoke and comment on the letter of August 27, 1966 made public with the press by Dr. J Allen Hynek, consultant scientific of the Air Force of the USA during 20 years (p. 144 with 152).Hynek fulfills also the functions of Director-Assistant of the " Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory " from 1956 to 1960, where he was a also chief of the service of studies of the roadbases of the atmosphere and of location of the satellites. Quotation, p. 151: " The equipment of location of the meteors and satellites as well as the radars, detected all of the anomalies which could not be identified, said Dr. Hynek. One must evoke here cases such as that of the strange photography of the "satellite moving arrière" catch in 1958, and embarrassing it report/ratio submitted by several teams of Moonwatch during the program of the Geophysical Year Internationale.Par "satellite moving arrière", it indicated an object achieving to it tower of the ground of Is in West, which does no object built on our planète.En in addition to, Dr. Hynek says that it had seen photographs taken by apparatuses of location of the satellites, showing unexplained trails, which, is appropriate it, were never identified. " end of quotation of the book of Frank Edwards. In its other work " Flying saucers, serious business ", Editions Robert Laffont, 1969, Frank Edwards mentions p. 184 to 187, the first setting on orbit of the capsule Gemini I, of April 8, 1964. " During its first orbit, this one was joined by four ordered objects of unknown origin in an intelligent way! "
To also see the remarkable book of the Major Donald E Keyhoe " Foreigners of space ", Editions France-Empire, 1975.Donald E Keyhoe was the person in charge for the NICAP, private organization of the USA, informed so well, which fought against the censure imposed by the soldiers. In his row, one counted a number of soldiers of high positions, of which the Admiral Hillenkoetter who was the first director of the CIA in 1947.Citations of his work, p. 179 to 181: " Since 1953, the Staff knew that giant vessels operated in the vicinity of our planet. Last nine times at least, they had been seen or located in orbit. They were sometimes descended more close from the Earth for briefs moments. Each one of these descents had been a test for the critics, constrained "d' expliquer" the reports/ratios which they could not escamoter.Au course of the year 1953, the Air Forces had carried out experiments with a new material radar with long range. Dice the first tests, the operators had the surprise to locate a gigantic object according to an orbit close to the equator. Its speed was close to 28.000 km per hour. Successive checks confirmed the first data. An unknown object made it tower of the Earth to thousand kilometers of altitude. Little time after, second object, such an enormous, approached the Earth. The experts radar operators of USAF followed it. It was put into orbit at the altitude of 600 km.Alertés, the chiefs of the Defence Department launched in urgency a project for the detection of the satellites in White Sands, in New Mexico. The scientific expert in charge of this secret research was Doctor Clyde Tombaugh, the scientist who had discovered the Pluton planet, the only known astronomer who admitted having seen a UFO. The group of studies was "Interarmes" under control of the Research centre of Armée.En February 1954, plans for the research of the satellites had been exposed in an article of the Astronomical Company of the Pacific. Quoting Dr. Tombaugh, the writer announced the recourse to new telescopic equipment. Writing well before the launching of the program of the ministry for Defense, it had not made any mention of giant vessels of space. The operation was presented like having to be a search for natural objects. But the journalists suspected a mystery. In White Sands, the senior officials of the Army were badgered with questions: were there currently unknown satellites? From which did they come? How much were they? This was the first time that one noted their presence?Les critics wanted at the beginning to choke the business, but Doctor Tombaugh managed to convince them of the inopportunity of the step. March 3, an official explanation was, with the approval of the Pentagon, presented at White Sands: it was a question of seeking natural objects come from space, left "little moons", "mini-moons" who had placed themselves in orbit around the Earth. One had been able so far neither to observe them, nor to detect them by radar, added the official spokesman, because they followed orbits close to the equator, zone where one had few observatoires.Il would have also been necessary cameras pointed automatically according to the angular velocity of the satellites. In addition, the ordinary cameras could not reveal these objects whose lighting was very weak. The goal of the Armed Forces was to locate the mini-moons usable as space bases missile launcher for the defense of the pays.Aucune mention was not made a possibility of an intelligent control exerted on these unknown satellites. They were presented implicitly like asteroids. Without plus.L' explanation was absurd. That asteroids come from space in a number, can all, without any control, to take the precise course placing them in terrestrial orbit, is unthinkable. Quleques days passed where the Pentagon feared a snub in the press. It felt its all the more uncomfortable position as if the version of the mini-moons did not take, it would have opened itself the door with the only plausible explanation: the presence of spaceships. And the least article with feeling would start again the fear of a space migration, towards our Ground. " end of citation.Pages 184 & 185, the Major Donald E Keyhoe adds: " In 1955, the famous journalist Stewart Alsop attacked the critics vigorously. Very introduced into the governmental mediums, and in particular with the NSC (National Security Council), the National Council of Safety, Alsop had been informed of the true mobile of the emergency programme of detection of the satellites. A new group of study in Mount Wilson doubled that of White Sands recently. On all the chain of press of which it laid out, Alsop revealed the intense activity of search for artificial satellites. This mini-moon deflating unchained the furies of the Pentagon and the NSC. Alsop repeated soon, depicting the anger of the secretary of the NSC, an anger such as his/her best friends within the organization did not dare more to be shown with lui.La censures sky was reinforced, the reports/ratios on the space colossi put at the refrigerator. Vain precautions. Between the meshs of the protective net slipped by in 1960 a characteristic business. August 25 of this year, a mysterious satellite was detected, then followed to the radar during several days. Grumman Aircraft Corporation, aircraft industry American known well, could photograph it, and any attempt to deny the authenticity of the photographs was vaine.Le May 18, 1961, news discovered of a mysterious object on terrestrial orbit. The advertisement surprises more especially as it comes from Smithsonian Observatory, the observatory of Cambridge in Massachusetts, which takes an active part in the world network of detection of the Air Forces. Smithsonian specified with the press: the satellite was seen initially in Jupiter, in Florida... up to now unforeseen and unsuspected. It is very brilliant and can, under certain conditions, being seen with the naked eye... The various observation stations on all the Earth were requested to help us with the suivre.L' observatory also alerted all its device of telescopic cameras. " End of citation.Le November 14, 1964, the R.P. Benito Reyna, director of the Adhara observatory, in San Miguel close to Buenos Aires, could see an UFO achieving various precise operations, like a kind of simulated combat, against the terrestrial satellite Echo II (Henry Durrant, " The black book of the flying saucers ", Editions Robert Laffont, 1970, p. 156 & 157)...
For those which would still doubt a censure on the UFO operated by our tops (ir)responsables, here what occurs... to France. The ufologist F S., very serious, directed a Group of study on the UFO of which I made recipient, and published a review in the Seventies - 80. He had even the reputation to be more the skeptic on the UFO among the ufologists. A few years ago, I frequently met F.S. in Paris. Here what he says to me: " I knew a scientist who worked at the observatory of Saint-Michel-l' Observa-toire, in High Provence, France. One Sunday, while there was nobody, it made me visit this observatory. Being on external rambarde, I was intrigued by an apparatus which was installed there. That resembled a scientific letter-box américaine.Le revealed me that this apparatus was a very elaborate camera, with a very open angle of 180°, pointed towards the sky... to photograph UFO! ! ! "Comme tells me F S. so well: " Officially, the flying saucers do not exist! " Without comment...
Christian Macé
All these weeks i've been waiting for this episode. The only one I don't have. Thought my collection would now be complete.
Can't believe it..........
Will Channel 5 be that bothered about showing this episode next week?
I can't see it.
had to sit through half an hour of baseball till the two idiots in the studio eventuly said that the invaders would be shown at a later date,but they didnt leave it there the guy on the right who thought in his own little world he was funny tried a joke about it !! ,no offence but i rekon the invders would have had more viewers than the baseball and aussie crap soap sons & daughters put together ,on the subject of aliens and baseball did anybody catch the episode of X-files on satarday night ,great episode
Dear friends, hello
On this site, to open and read in particular the two following déclassifiés documents of these scientists of very high level:
Nov.. 21, 1950: Smith' S Secret signal memo to the Dept. of Transport.
Nov.. 29, 1983: Letter from Dr. Robert Sarbacher to William Steinman.
These two documents meet and prove that the United States had possessed Alien Invaders...
Their constitution enabled them to support very strong accélerations and désaccélérations, like the constitution of the insects...
http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Smith_papers.html
In a friendly way,
Christian Macé
Dear guys: I read about the scheduled episode being replaced by the baseball game. I read a news account about a woman who suffered a fatal head injury during a street melee after the game. People actually get killed because of this bullshit nonsense!! But you never hear about any melees or riots breaking out because of any cancellations of "THE INVADERS"!! PS A friend of mine has indicated an interest in coming with me to NYC in April to attend the Roy Thinnes Dinner of Honor. So keep us in mind, as I keep my friend posted about the event. WE DO WANT TO ATTEND!! Lindsay
Thank god- thought it was only me that got a load of fat americans playing rounders instead of my planned show! :-)It wasn't on. Clearly aBaseball at 4am is far more important here in Britain....
What happened to this episode being shown at 4.20am Channel 5????
I turned it on to see baseball shooting out at me. Then Sons and Daughters followed.
Not good enough. No explanation on when the epiosde will be shown.
TV Times said it was the last of the series. What is going on?
Will I ever get to see my favourite episode, The Watchers?
Come on Channel 5. Hide your little finger and join the human race.
I had planned to tie my VCR up in a sack and throw it in the local river but i guess i"ll spare it now....probably just stick it in the microwave for a few seconds.Channel 5 aren"t all bad, at least they show [original] Columbo twice a week."Sons And Daughters" must be the most laughable piece of cheese on TV with the possible exception of the UK series "Holby City" which is like Ed Wood 2004!
i got up at my usual time of 4:10am to watch the invaders ,switched on to find baseball which was all right at that time but as 4:20 grew closer i knew something was wrong !! , every couple of minutes the baseball would cut to the studio and every time i thought ahh thats them away to say " thats all we have time for " but no no no ,they went on to read out some Emails (which i was tempeted to send asking why my fav programme wasnt on ),but the guy sitting on the right he was really irrataiting me by this time with his not so funny phrases ,then about 4:50 they eventuly said "sorry for all people who are tuned in to see the invaders ,this will be shown at a later date " arghhhhhhhhh and if that wasnt a big enough kick in the teeth the arse on the right then made some sarcatic joke about it !!
Remember, like I said, The US Baseball World Series (Boston vs St Louis) is being shown here in The States exclusively on The Fox Network, which is owned by Australian mogul/billionaire Rupert Murdoch...HE owns the rights to broadcasting it world-wide so it makes sense to conclude that he owns a major piece of CH5 as well..Don't blame The US--blame
'Stralia!...In any event, my notes for THE CONDEMNED were posted by me beforehand..
I see that you made reference to my mentions of Dr Hynek and Clyde T..I am also familiar with the name Keyhoe, he started 'Project Blue Book'..Have you ever looked into the name 'Lonnie Zamora"?..It was in April 1964 in a very famous UFO landing incident in Socorro NM that he (as a gendarme) actually turned around the UFO thinking of Dr Hynek, who then went from de-bunking them to believing in them....And it is no accident that The Invaders took place in New Mexico in THE MUTATION, THE LEECHES, THE IVY CURTAIN, and THE MIRACLE..(Possibly THE SAUCER too)..And as I have previously posted, the UFO under-carriage
shots on The Invaders were based on and inspired by faked 1950s photos of half-cut tennis balls attached to a fake UFO model..
Why is THE WATCHERS your favorite episode?..THE CONDEMNED is ep#17, and THE WATCHERS is ep#20 but 2nd season..I have actually met actor Kevin McCarthy (Paul Cook)..Actress Shirley Knight has a great role in the movie "As Good As It Gets" a few years ago..There are few female posters on this site--most chased off by an ogre who is fortunately now gone--and your distaff input is very welcome here! regards, jim
Hi Claira (a friend of Lisa Sargent's, or an alias?)
Whether you're Lisa or a pal of hers, and whether or not you've surfaced in response to my e-mail - welcome (back?) !!!!
You've already seen Jim's response, confirming the absence of any overbearing male behaviour on this site (long may that continue). Look forward to hearing more from you, more often....
Hi again Claira
.... and on the subject of Sunday's episode, I also noted Teletext showing "Last in series". Last in FIRST series we know, but whether it's the last in Channel 5's screenings???? If the web-site's duff, someone needs to phone them directly and find out once and for all, as it's been an on-off mystery for some time now.
Any interest in the planned dinner evening gathering in New York next April May?
Cheers, Phil
Hi Sam
I like the allusion to baseball as "rounders" - much more civilised game! :o)
Purely out of interest, is that Sam as in "Samantha" or "Samuel" ????
I hope you guys didn't get any seizures over the sudden Baseball coverage that cut into our favourite show's first season conclusion. This is the UK Channel Five's website (www.five.tv) if you need to see if they re-schedule this episode for next Saturday. I hope they do! I knew that there would be "raising hell" on this site because of this. I remember this show from it's first run on WABC-TV in New York on Wednesday nights. It should be on DVD by now! My favourite episode is the "The Saucer" and I feel that "The Peacemaker" had the potential to end the series, well for at least a generation. Sadly, this series had suffered the same fate as many others, abrupt cancellation! I thought the Mini-Series (1995) was awful and was far from picking up the story from where it was cut off. Well as you gathered I was a child of the sixties and will contribute some radical comments here in the future. Later!
.... and 'hear, hear' regarding that Godawful 1995 mini-series!!!!
Fully appreciate the rest of your remarks - food for thought. And yes, it never occurred to me before but THE PEACEMAKER would have made for a much more appropriate conclusion - if not to the series as a concept, then at least to the 'second season' - than THE INQUISITION (which appears to be no great favourite among fans on this discussion forum). Would have made sense to have had that episode shuffled to the end.
I don't know how committed a fan you are Tom, or indeed how far you live from New York, but there are plans afoot to hold a dinner-style evening with Roy Thinnes as guest of honour. Full details have already been posted twice a while back, but it's probably time I put it up here again. Whatever, I'll be e-mailing you off-list shortly regarding this.
Cheers for now Tom, welcome to the fold and look forward to hearing more from you. Phil.
Just to pick up on other peoples comments about the cancelling of the The Invaders, what did Channel 5 broadcast all Sunday afternoon, but a series of programmes under the banner 'We are not alone' films and programmes about extra terrestial life.
A prime opportunity for Channel 5 to show The Invaders if ever there was one.
Hear Hear Will!
We could be forgiven for thinking that Channel 5 were the most 'Sci-Fi friendly' channel, as they've run theme evenings before - at least twice to the best of my memory, on both occasions including the first Invaders episode BEACHHEAD.
Still, it WAS a 'last minute' cancellation due to over-run of the earlier program which happens a lot on all channels over the years (especially after Tennis and Snooker tournaments).
The name of the man who presented many 1950s UFO photos---and the Invaders UFO underside seems to be based his faux photos---was George Adamski, another legendary name in UFOs..
Enter his name into Google and you will see what I mean..
The fact that you knew that 'the show' was on WABC in NYC (Channel 7, I might add) way-back-then is puzzling, because it would seem like you 'were there' but your UK return address and that you spell 'favourite' (sic) with the extra 'u' leads me to believe that you are a
life-long Brit..I'm not being antagonistic here, just curious as to where you grew up and when! regards, jim
Dear friends, hello
On this internet site, "ccchronicle.com", this article (in English) of octobre 25, 2004 :
CHICAGO, a town very hanted !...
To see the photos...
Our friend Roy Thinnes is born in CHICAGO !
CHICAGO, open :
http://www.ccchronicle.com/back_new/2004_fall/2004-10-25/citybeat1.php?id=182
In a friendly way,
Christian Macé
Cher Christian
Qu'est-ce que c'est "Hanted" ????
Salutations comme toujours, Phil
I don't remember Chicago in a "spooky" way; BUT-then, again, When someone has a
happy childhood, and grand memories of School and Friends, then no matter
what the geographical setting, "that" place becomes a "positive" memory-
Most people(negative types)find Chicago a Giant City, lots of factories and
gentrified Snobs--etc., and the main complaint is the Weather-
Definately FOUR seasons--Sometimes all 4 in the same DAY!
What I do remember is, Because of it's close proximity to Wisconsin,
there was a "Fresh Beer on Tap" thingy about Chicago--a man's town-
But, as I say, When one's memories are fond; then the city becomes a fond
memory.
For me, I hold Chicago dear to my heart- Especially when it is 40 degrees
below zero, and I am in Florida in February-
YES--I hold Chicago "dear to my heart" then the most!! haha!
Asfaras it being "haunted"?
Yeah--Most of the planet is haunted.
That is why I cannot figure out why "Aliens"--"...light years ahead of us..."
*(As John Milford said, while Donald(Alien)Davis was taking a nap)...would
even consider coming to this planet?
I mean, I believe Aliens have "checked" us out-BUT why they don't hang around?
"It's 'cause we're the ALABAMA OF THE UNIVERSE--That's why!!"
(I live in Florida, so we make fun of Alabamans all the time)!
As for Miami-- (another positive mental state issue)--after having come
to Miami for University, and getting married and having two nice boys, and making
a decent business, and nice living--meeting people, Humans and aliens alike,
MIAMI, too can be considered AGAIN by the negatives of the universe as a
"hell-hole"--but Cubans are risking their lives to swim, float anything to get here;
and I made a nice family life for us here in Miami--so, Again
Memories are good for me here in Miami--
And it is FULL OF ALIENS!
Hi guys
As a fan of The Invaders this is my first contribution to this chat page.
Anyway I thought I should let you know that I had today spoken to Channel Five about the episode "The Condemned" which wasn't shown on Sunday morning and I was informed that Five will be showing this episode on this coming Sunday morning. Therefore the showing of the start of series 2(Episode Condition:Red)will naturally be put back to the week after.
I hope that this will answer concerns that UK viewers will have had over the episodes that Five will be showing in the future.
Kind regards
Mark
I have seen DVD's of the Invaders on DVD on the UK ebay i know a person who got it & they said it was in wonderful condition and all uncut why don't you all look on ebay for DVD's of the entire series.
Thanks
Cliff Barnes
Dears friends, hello
In France, diffusion at television public channel "FR 3" ("France Régions 3")this wednesday october 27, 2004 at 01 H 40 in the morning of the episod n° 33 "Task Force" of "The Invaders" !...
The Invaders want to take "Mace Publications"... And my family name is Macé !...
On this site "FR 3", at "Programme de la journée " ("Programm of the day", in English)), click on "MA", and open "Les Envahisseurs" (The Invaders, in English)...
Site "FR 3" :
http://guidetv.france3.fr/accueil.jspx
In a friendly way,
Christian Macé
Hi Mark
Thanks for making the effort to call Channel 5, and for the update.
I'd like to extend you a hearty welcome to this web-site forum and look forward to hearing more from you.
Cheers, Phil
Hi Jim
You've hit the nail right on the head there old friend - Rupert Murdoch's notoriety has been virtually a national institution here in the UK for some twenty years or more, and I'd back your explanation of the cause of the baseball screening at the expense of The Invaders 100%! Roll-on the day he goes back to his Kangaroo harem in the 'outback' :o)
Hi Cliff
Thanks for that. Whatever the taboo on dealing in bootleg recordings of any kind, in the absence of any official release then a near-perfect DIY set must be as good as it gets for many fans - and who can blame them!
Checking the older Archive pages on this site recently (going back a year or more), I came-across a few messages from different folk either offering their own home-made DVD recordings for sale, or seeking to produce them from VHS source. For this reason, I imagine Invaders DVD sets will feature frequently on E-bay....
The reason I'm playing devils's advocate (sort of) here is that a little birdie tells me the release of an official DVD set by Paramount is held-up by contractual issues left unresolved after Quinn Martin's death in 1987. Of course, the few Invaders episodes released by Worldvision on VHS in 1988 appear to have 'slipped through' OK (they may have already been in production a year or more beforehand), but Roy Thinnes himself is as keen as the rest of us to see this remedied.
For what it's worth, Efrem Zimbalist Jr. has encountered the same problem with the release of "The F.B.I." (sorry Jim, that should have read "The Eff Bee Eye").
Hi Taugus (wherever you are!)
Can you please show yourself again, as I would like you to post your FULL e-mail address so I can write to you. As I suspected, "Alien@Invaders" doesn't work - unknown domain!
Alternatively, please e-mail me directly if you don't want your proper address known here - rest assured it shall remain confidential!
Cheers, Phil
GO REDSOX!
Come on you Invaders fans - the World Series is once a year (or much less if you're a RedSox fan).
Baseball is always an all-nighter. What do you expect? Of course such an important series is going to affect your show!
One thought though... why get up at 4.10am to watch it? Haven't you ever heard of a VCR? If the baseball runs late, or Invaders isn't shown at all, you didn't get up for nothing!
I understand getting up to watch a boxing match or some 'special event' live but a recorded (old) TV show? Why???
Hi Mike
I take it that, as you've called-in on this site, you're an Invaders fan as well as RedSox?
Whether or not you have equal loyalties on this issue (with a leaning towards the baseball, methinks), I must agree that you've made a valid and rational point or two.
That said, for dyed-in-the-wool Invaders fans who HAVEN'T been fortunate enough to have recorded the series on VCR from previous years' broadcasts, occasions such as the recent Channel 5 showing are positively gold-dust. Sure, most folk have a VCR which can record at set times, but in many regions still without access to cable or satellite TV reception, the Channel 5 analog signal is often very weak and provides a 'snowstorm' picture effect which is looks even worse on video!
Although my Channel 5 reception is just as bad as this, I'm lucky enough to have a good-quality video copy of (almost) the entire series. However, my heart goes out to those who don't, and I feel especially sorry for last Sunday's 'early risers'. That said, it only looks as if they'll have to wait a week to see the episode in question....
Anyway Mike, I hope you enjoyed the baseball in any event!
i just wish you Americans would keep your own sports on your own channels , how would you like to sit through 5 days of test cricket ?
It could have made a nice storyline "RedSox player makes a nasty tackle-whoa! the other guy goes down-the medic says he has a cerebral haemorrage!
Hi all
I must say that I agree with the points made by Phil in his last e-mail about the quality of The Invaders episodes shown on Channel Five.
The analog signal for Five in my part of the world(West Midlands part of the UK)isn't brilliant at the best of times and the picture quality of an episode recorded from Five on the VCR is worse when played back than if I had stayed up myself and watched it in the early hours of Sunday morning.
Mind you, I went away for a week to a holiday camp in North Wales back in August this year and they didn't even have Channel Five there full stop. It meant that I wouldn't have been able to watch episode 7 NIGHTMARE which Five were showing at that time. That's where something called a VCR is useful for situations like that.
Roll on the official release of The Invaders on DVD.
Regards
Mark
Hey, Mate! Yeah--I like Baseball; but when it interferes with "regularly scheduled
programminng"--I'm with you-
Sincere condolences to you-
I am datiing, however, a West-Indian lady--I should stand corrected--she is
an American lady, of Jamaican and Scottish heritage--and THEY play CRICKET in
South Florida, where I live, and it seems to be a popular sport amongst
British West Indians.
But, no "match" for our "Invaders"!
Take care,
Paulie
I did a bit of "searching" on the Archives--and Needless to say, I LOVE your
critiques(to all loyal aficionados of "The Invaders"--) more than the show itself.
NO disrespect to Roy. Please--Heaven's forbid.
Personally, I like the acting. But, my "hook" on this show is not so much
the "Alien" or "Space" thingy--remember, I was 12 when this show first came out;
But NOW--as I pass through my second childhood--This show brings back fond memories
of my Grammar School days--of which I was NOT allowed to Watch TV pass
9:00 --and in Chicago, the Second series(1968) was on later than the first
on ABC.
But, all in all, I do get a great kick out of this show--
And it is TRULY ROY'S acting that takes the cake.
Does anyone realize that There was a THEME SONG difference in only ONE episode
of all the --what was it? 43?
Only ONE episode was a variation of the exit Theme different.
TRIVIA QUESTION(we KNOW JIM XNYCKID will KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS ONE)
WHICH IS IT?
CLUE: Dominic Frontiere did the music for ALL of them-
Jasmine looks like "who"?
Secondly--
ALIENS DO EAT.
I read that a few archives back.
OF COURSE ALIENS love FOOD.
In fact, word has it that the Aliens--along with Castro and Al Qaeda, are hoping
John Kerry and John Edwards win next Tuesday--because--first, they will
assist ANYONE with the demise of the Planet; and second, they can put into
action their own(*aliens are learning about our court system)Class action suit
against Fast Food chains, because Aliens, too Believe in NOT taking responsiblity for
their own actions, and have been gaining a considerable amount of weight
lately, and Ed Asner is now the Aliens' spokesperson for the "FATTENING OF ALIENS
IN AMERICA" campaign--
Ted Kennedy has already put forth a bill of "Antidiscriminatory Federal
Civil Rights Legislation for the Protection of Aliens"
And, he believes stongly that Aliens should be able to purchase cheeper
Regeneration Tubes from Canada.
BUT--YES--Aliens DO eat.
"The Believers" showed that the Aliens have these neat kinda Cafeterias, behind
the Portal, with "Nurse" like Catering Ladies providing a "ready-made" lunch for
aliens(and any human guest that may be hanging around their 30 foot below the surface
Alien hang-out.
Who said the Aliens weren't hospitable?
Another potential Civil Rights violation. (hear that, Ted?)
Take note how "hostile" David Vincent was when he "Tore-off" the Aluminum
Foil from his neat little Lunch--while nice, well mannered aliens were so politely
drinking their coffee.
How hostile of David Vincent.
Perhaps "Ted" has a "Sensativity Course" that David can attend to learn how
to properly manage his anger.
That was not only inhospitalbe on David's part; but I think it was racist.
Aliens have rights, too.
Boy, oh Boy--things would be a lot different now if "The Invaders" were on
in 2004 rather than 1968.
David would be in some sort of mental institution; not because he "thought"
aliens were here and no one believed him; but Because he simply was completely
insensative to the terrible conditions that the Aliens experienced back home on their
"dying planet" and we have to learn to be more sensative to this.
Tolerance is the key to a civilized society.
Paulie
To the guys who have problems recieving C5 have you tried using a gold plated co axial lead to your TV? I used to have a similar problem but it seems gold is such a better conductor that it sorts it out.
Come on, Paulie, Give David Vincent a break!! If several of your close friends were shot and killed in an ambush, and you were chloroformed and kidnapped, wouldn't you feel at least a little bit crabby? (HA HA) Lindsay
It's bad enough trying to record C5 in bad areas, but when you have a terrestrial box (digital)then you can record a clear image.... But then, when you add that the TV, Video and Terrestrial box are all interconnected by normal RF fly leads (cords)then trying to set up the video is an absolute NIGHTMARE (especially Saturday night!)
I thought I had recorded the wrong channel by mistake and was well pee'd off until reading the messages on this site. Now looking forward to next Sunday.....Sad but true!
hey, Lindsay--I hope at least you got a chuckle from that one!
I work in the Criminal Justice system, and though I am not Cynical(I hope not),
I DO tend to think we get caught up in our own "pompous" and unrealistic view of
almost everything!
But, outside of that, I went pretty far with that, "...should be able to
purchase cheaper Regeneration Tubes from Canada..."
In any event two things to you, my dear(tolerant) friend:
One, I owe you a drink(at least) for my flip, panic-related knee jerk reprimand-
So ARE YOU GOING to TRY to make Roy's Dinner?
YOU are a lot closer to NYC than MIAMI!
I sure hope so.
It is going to be a great tribute to our hero, and there are some real nice people
who are trying to make it happen for US as well.
Believe me.
First class people.
Secondly, did you get a chance to see that Movie with Burgess Merideth?
"Mine own Executioner"?
By the way, that passage was taken from a middle ages theologian named
John Donne--a Catholic theologian who became an Episcopal Priest and wrote just
hundreds of "Devotionals" in the early 1600's-
What men, eh? People who wrote and dedicated their time and effort for the betterment of
others.
Sort of like we do here.
(oh, God--how blasphemous)-
In any event, "IF" you get a chance to see this movie, it was old "Penguin's" finest
hour--believe me--and He was just a young man when he made that movie-
1947, and it is British, to boot(hear that, Phil?)!
Please try to make the dinner party.
I have 10 already in my group. And, please listen my dear aficionado and friend-
This is going to be just a dinner; like dignified and not a convention.
I just plan to take some of Jasmine's spinning hypnocrystals and
only one Death disc with me--
JUST KIDDING!
Not a "star-trek" nonsense thingy-
Just a get together with a great actor and friends.
Please try to make it; and let Phil know ASAP-
we are going to put a date-to "close" the reservation thingy soon.
Please, try to make it.
You are one of our great contributors.
Thanks-
Paulie
If you view a very recent posting by me you will see that I explained that the reason you are seeing US baseball is NOT because of "you Americans" but due to AUSTRALIAN Rupert Murdoch!
I just find it a bit ironic that you are angry enough to unduly insult my country for interrupting our favorite show, which if I remember was also made here..
hey now that you mention it--I suppose that alien regeneration-tubes probably could qualify as legit health-care stuff up in Canada, and if not free to all aliens--(and they have a lot!!)--it would most certainly cost less than here!!
Hi Paulie me old chum!
Sorry if I didn't inform you via our off-list contact (didn't I?) but Lindsay has already expressed his interest a couple of weeks ago - and may possibly bring along another pal who's a fan of The Invaders.
I've also had positive responses from Lisa Sargent and Peter Reynolds (both UK), and of course our dear friend Christian Mace from La Belle France (although I'm still waiting to hear from him if he's made off-list contact with fellow fans and countrymen Fred and Didier). And I've MANY more to e-mail yet....
Regarding the venue, I've received another mail from John. You'll recall he previously advised that Roy is not vegetarian (and I presume his wife isn't either), and that Chris' Steak House would be agreeable. However, I'm told Roy himself has come up with an alternative suggestion of his own - The Metropolitan Museum Of Fine Arts (a.k.a. "The Met") of which Roy is a member. It's located on 5th Ave and 84th St, has function rooms that can hold from 10 to 60 people and caters for dinner functions. Once I've made enquiries and if all involved are happy to go with it, Roy will gladly make the arrangements!
For further discussion on and off-list. As for you Paul, thanks a million for all the continued support and contstuctive comments. I'll phone you in the not-too-distant-future once I've e-mailed the rest of my "list" and got some more responses.
Cheers for now folks, hearty greetings to one and all of you out there!!!!
Barry
While I'm no fan of baseball myself, your comments are uncalled-for and you owe Jim, Paul, Lindsay and the rest of our fellow U.S. fans an apology (even though Paulie's made light of it, bless him).
No-one there can FORCE Channel 5 to broadcast their sporting events - or indeed anything else, for that matter! It's the TV company's own schedulers who decide what's broadcast, and if they chose to show baseball they sure as hell don't need to go cap in hand to Uncle Sam!
And if Rupert Murdoch has the power to influence their program scheduling to that extent, then so be it - direct your anger at him (he's from "down under" remember?).
Likewise, I'm sure the cricket fans Paulie mentioned who wish U.S TV WOULD broadcast test match cricket DON'T hold us Brit's to blame!!!!!
Hi, everyone,
Back after two months on business in a 3rd world country, where internet access was almost non-existent. I haven't had time to look at the postings I've missed, but this site has increased enormously in hits over the last couple of years and I doubt whether I shall get round to reading all the messages from the past two months. Luckily, I have all the complete Invaders episodes on video (soon to be transferred to DVD on a new Panasonic E85H), but I have missed reading Jim's notes on each one, and contributing from time to time.
What I have noticed is that there is some sort of celebratory dinner planned with Roy Thinnes in attendance. Can anyone say, when, where and how much?
To Phil - I'm not keen on giving out my e-mail address, even privately, at the moment. Don't take offence, but I'm still recovering from the tons of spam that my last i.s.p. let through.
Just a couple of Invaders comments: 'Panic' was a favorite episode always - it had the most realistic view of a saucer, in my opinion. The shots in 'The Ivy Curtain' and 'The Betrayed', good episodes though they were, were of rather blurred saucer images.
I was never as fond of the 2nd series for various reasons, the quality of the music being one. I have music cue sheets for many episodes which show who the composers were, and in my opinion, no-one ever caught the brooding menace of the show like Dominic Frontiere did.
Regards.
Hi Taugus
Thanks for getting in touch, hope you've had a rewarding and interesting time while away.
With regards to your e-mail address, no problem if you don't want to advertise it here but I myself shall DEFINITELY need to have e-mail contact with you if you're interested in our planned 'get-together'. So, as soon as you've decided one way or the other, please e-mail me (address as show above) - I can assure you I shall NOT pass your address on to anyone else!
Scroll two messages up (mine of 1:51 pm U.K. Time today) and you'll see my latest update on how things are progressing. The rest of the details are as per my original posting - sent here twice previously, but long overdue a 'reminder'. Please note, no cost details have as yet been established, as a lot will depend on how many of us intend being there. Not mentioned in this message is the fact that John has also sent me some photos - one of Roy and his bride, also three of his paintings - none of which, to the best of my knowledge, have appeared elsewhere.
So, here's the message I first used to 'broadcast' on this page that Roy was interested:
"I have been contacted off-list by a gentleman who states he is a close personal friend of Roy's, and for whom he acts as agent. I have no reason to doubt his word, safe to say I have been given a lot of information about Roy which has (to my knowledge) never been discussed on this or any other website, and which goes a long way toward answering a number of queries many of us have raised.
His name is John Edwards, and lives in Houston. He checks-out the chat page every couple of weeks or so, and has posted once. He has passed-on our idea of a 'dinner-evening' style event to Roy, and I am advised he is interested.
The most important thing to note is that Roy now lives in New York, therefore this is where it would take place. Also, this will of course suit any attendees flying in from the UK, France, Germany and elsewhere in mainland Europe.
First and foremost, John has asked me to get as clear an indication as possible of the number of likely attendees. I suggested April or May time next year, which he provisionally approved - although Roy's schedule may subsequently dictate otherwise. Roy also insists that it does NOT carry a 'sci-fi' theme as such - obviously due respect will be paid to The Invaders, plus Roswell and other serious UFO-related topics, but NO banner-waving 'Trekkie'-style paraphernalia please! Please also note, Roy has recently re-married and would attend with his new bride, possibly along with another couple who he knows.
Furthermore, Roy currently devotes much of his time to his painting (which is of a standard John rates highly) and might agree to show some of his work. I would like to think this could provide an opportunity for us to procure 'giclees' and possibly even originals. However, John makes it clear Roy would NOT especially be seeking to make money from these, nor indeed from the event itself. That said, we being the sponsors will of course pick-up the tab for him and his wife, as well as cover any other expenses he may incur.
All those interested, please let me know either on-list and/or by private e-mail ASAP (please note new e-mail address PhilsGameOn@AOL.com). Likewise, please inform anyone not part of our chat group who you believe might also be interested."
So Taugus my friend, over to you....
wouldnt be so bad if they actually got some viewers to watch the crap over here ,its an american sport (why they call it the world series is baffling) nobody cares who wins it, just wish they would get Invaders back on
anybody know the ch5 schedule for sunday morning exactly ,doesnt the baseball run for 5 weeks or some thing if its the final ?? .Alain good call about the gold lead for picking up ch5 it works a treat but still prefer digital for a clearer picture
I've started a semi-INVADERS related discussion on another website... and thought some folk might like to comment on my thoughts?
If THE INVADERS was a subtle metaphor on East-West Cold War relations, maybe it still has relevance in the 21st Century? Replace the "reds/Invaders" with -?
http://savageplayground.com/discus/messages/2909/178444.html?1098904993
21st Century? Replace the "reds/Invaders" with -?
Kerry-Edwards-
home grown "aliens"
This Suggestion of the "Metropolitan Museum of Art" is a great idea.
First and foremost, remembering that THIS DINNER party is for OUR hero,
Roy--and his lovely new Bride.
I only hope our mentor and grand supporter of this event, the right HonoUrable
MR EDWARDS(and I don't mean Senator Lawsuit)attends.
To all those who are loyal and devoted aficionados, "hear ye, hear ye"
I can attest that the "behind the scenes" factions who are Bending over Backwards
to assist "US" in making sure this event takes place are of the HIGHEST
CALIBRE OF PEOPLE ONE CAN EVER MEET IN ONE'S LIFE--
So, for those of you who have NOT YET committed to the dinner--
Please keep in mind, not only are we going to experience a once-in-a-lifetime
event with our hero, Roy-*who is getting up there in years, now), but they too
are HonoUring "US" by facilitating this on our behalf-
So hat's off to the "man behind the scenes" and Roy, himself.
This is going to be not only a great time for us; but, a great time for us to know
one another in person, and be with our hero and his lovely new bride.
As Tiny Tim said, in the Dickens classic, "The Christmas Carol"-and for all of
you Brits who remember one of the greatest actors of all time, the Right, great
Scotsman, and "Professor of Elocution" Alistair Sim(who played Scrooge),
"God bless us--everyone"- said, the late Glyn Dearman(Tiny Tim).
So, let's remember, we must be in earnest, and keep to our word.
As I said, those who are working "Behind the Scenes" to make this testimonial
happen, I assure you all--as Phil can be my witness--are of the HIGHEST
CALIBRE of people--
So, let's respond in kind, and when one makes a commitment, we keep it.
UPDATE:
"Alien Regeneration Tubes" are still being manufactured somewhere near Chicago;
but the Food and Drug Administration, still will not approve of them being sold
back to the USA from Canada; so, for all you aliens, who were hoping to
save some money this coming year--Forget it-
you have to purchase them through your local insurance carrier.
Unless,of course, you(aliens) are residing in Canada; and then you will have to be
put on a list of "priority cases" sort of like a triage--so you can get approval
from your local Provincial Insurance Authorizing Agent-
By that time, most Canadian Aliens/Aliens Canadiens--will have degenerated, and
"THAT" my aliens friends, is what that darn socialist health-care system is banking on--
Alien attrition.
Same in USA with Social Security-
They just hope we pass away before we can reap our entitlements.
Well, we truly are an "equal" society--
Aliens and humans alike cannot get justice in neither the free-enterprise sytem, nor
the socialist system.
Are you sure you aliens really want to live on this Planet?
Paulie.
So did you miss WALL OF CRYSTAL? It was on in The UK on October 16th, and if ANYONE should have it on tape, it should be you!
Just across from the MOMA (Museum of Modern Art--a very majestic building)) at 1040 5th Avenue (betw. 85th-84th) is where Jackie Kennedy Onassis lived and died..Drove her there in my taxi..Keep me briefed on how the 'Roy-reunion' goes, if it does, I would kill to be there but have too many obligations to get away for it..
Hi Paulie
Nice touch - however, I think we're getting a little into 'Chance' territory here.... after all, among your fellow U.S. correspondents here may well be a couple of Kerry supporters.
As a Brit I have no vested interest in taking sides here and have no special axe to grind with regard to personalities, who did-or-didn't-do-what in 'Nam, the war in Iraq, etc. etc. However, to me and most Brits I compare notes with, while I wouldn't trust either candidate to go out and fetch my weekly grocery shopping, Mr. Bush is truly the biggest 'alien' of them all!
Fair comment Barry, but you're COMPLETELY missing the point yet again. I suggest you re-read mine and Jim's postings on the subject as many times as it takes to get it to sink in....
Your earlier outburst was unnecessarily insulting to our U.S. cousins and if I were among them I'd still be waiting for that apology!
At last!! The Boston Red Sox won the series, at least, according to a news posting that I read on MSC News. Now , hopefully, they won't drag the victory over onto our show!! (HA HA) PS: RECONCILE, guys! RECONCILE!! We cannot afford to have our group break up over baseball!! Lindsay
Dear Kiwifrank: One idea to replace "Reds/Invaders" with, would be "Al Qaida/Invaders", since that seems to be the biggest threat to the western world now. However, "THE INVADERS" always came across to me as not being concerned with religion, per se, similar to the reds, who claimed to be atheists. But religion aside, it is the threat and the action that is taken into account, and the paranoia that they cause. Plus, while the present enemy does have "overt", or open aggression operations going on, and reveal their title to the world, they still have plenty of guerilla warfare "covert" operations as their greatest weapon, the weapon of secrecy, as has "THE INVADERS". Anyway, there are a couple of tidbits for you to consider. PS: I am happy for your new website. LONG LIVE IT!! Lindsay. PSS Remember also, that the big attacks that got this whole thing started hit The Big Apple and Washington D.C./Arlington Virginia, two big prominent cities that are mentioned many times in "THE INVADERS" Quinn-Martin series!!
Hey, guys: While I am not insulted, per se, I am very concerned that the harsh rhetoric would break some of us apart! COHESION!! Let us have COHESION, and stick together as a group. Remember, we are all family, regardless of nationality. Anyway, the Red Sox won the World Series, so let us hope that this would put our concerns to rest, and we go on with our MAIN INTEREST. Lindsay
Dear nottodistant Paulie: Thanks again for the feedback!! If I am having a rather depressing time, I can always recieve humor from reading the postings listed here. PS I should think that the aliens are trying to take over the insurance companies, so that they don't have the problem of transporting regeneration tubes from Canada!! Lindsay
"Hi, Phil--Great one!
Oh, No---"no Chance"! I am not Political-In fact, I beat them both up equally!
I am just kidding on that "Regeneration Tubes from Canada" thingy!
Anyway, Things are looking good for the Dinner, my dear friend, Phil.
Lindsay is a great contributor, and we have some good guys here.
Soon, however, we are going to have to make an anouncement of a "cut-off" day
for all of us to either "commit" or be counted "out."
You and I will get together, Phil--Off-line--and hammer out the details.
I hope you get a kick out of my diddys.
I believer you are right about "...biggest alien of all..."
!
REMINDER: To all Aficioinados who may be planning the trip to NYC to
attend Roy's Testimonial dinner--I cannot emphasize more strongly, that
the quality of people that we are dealing with behind the scenes here, of the
of HIGHEST INTEGRITY--so, let's demonstrate that we are worthy of this
favor.
There are some people who are actually "working" for "US" here, to make this
happen.
What we are doing for Roy--we are actually doing for ourselves, here.
So, let's try to make it.
Phil---as they say in music, "...take it.."
"run with this ball, buddy.."
Hi Paul
Good thinking, with you all the way there. I'm of the same persuasion here i.e. any party I vote for is always a choice between "the lesser of (however many) evils". Indeed, we've got a TV satirist trio called Bremner, Bird & Fortune who do a fanastic job of making mash of the whole sorry lot of them!
As for the dinner event - first-off, regarding a comment you made in a previous posting about whether it could take place sooner than April, I would respectfully suggest not. Apart from giving us transatlantic 'jet-setters' a chance to re-accumulate funds following the huge expense that is (usually) Christmas, April/May is already the focus of all or most who are 'on board' - including our friends "behind the scenes", I'd wager.
Regarding a designated "cut-off" for additional numbers, I fully agree. We'll chew over possibilities off-list, but I think we SHOULD give some slack to allow for those who'd like to come, but need more time to sort out their personal and professional situations before making any sort of commitment.
As for the venue itself, I'll make enquiries and keep you posted off-list. Thanks YET again (and again, and again....) for all the encouragement and continued support.
After all the baseball hype has anyone got any idea when The Invaders will be back on Channel 5???
I still need to complete my tape and also get some kind of an idea on when The Watchers will be shown because if I miss this episode my room will start to turn red as I slowly de-generate!
hello did you know that the above series is available on dvd the complete set at$224 dollars about £125 pound type the invaders roy thinnes into google and click the sponsored message in top right corner
a site called tv series collection is selling the entire series on dvd £125 pound
i may have asked this before Jim but what episode does an alien get killed walking in front of an aeroplane ? i remember this happening when watching it in the early 90s ,but so far havent seen it so im presuming its an series 2 episode?
dont know when i get dvd ill let you know
dont worry Lindsay it wont break up the group hehe , its nice to have a discussion on here where as about a year ago there was hardly any posts on this site , im more of a viewer than a poster i leave that to Jim hes the man with all the knowledge which is very interesting ,saying that there is a person on here who seems to think hes NEVER wrong but i tend to ignore his posts as there no interest to me .keep up the good work Jim and how about some notes on sundays episode for " us BRITS"
whats with the upside down chat page ?
Hi, Barry,
It isn't actually an alien that gets killed walking in front of an airplane, it's a human in 'The Watchers', shortly into season 2 (episode 20). He was the owner of the lake lodge taken over by the aliens prior to a high-level meeting between government officials and the Paul Cook character. Beautiful scenery up there!
Taugus
Please see my chat page entry dated 25/10/2004 at 6.24pm regarding the broadcasting of future Invaders episodes by Channel 5,which will now be found on the archive page.
This information was given to me by Channel 5 when I spoke to them on 25/10/2004.
However if any fans know of any different schedules for the showing of Invaders episodes by Five to what I'd been told,then I would be most interested to hear about them as would all UK fans of The Invaders.
Regards
Mark
Yes--These aliens are learning our "Free-Market" system, and YES--they have
definately taken over many of our Institutions.
Prescription drugs is what they have problems with.
The usual "suicide pills"--again thwarted by the US manufacturers, exporting them
to Canada, then Canada selling them back to us--
No way, say the Insurance companies--
You see, In order for the Aliens now to get their Suicide pills, they too have to wait
for a "Canadian Insurance Functionary" to approve of their requests--and by that time-
while waiting for the shipment of Chicago-based manufactured Regeneration Tubes, to be shipped from Chicago, to Canada, and back to USA again, these aliens are bound to
degenerate,and hence, "Don't sweat the Suicide Pills" is the Canadian Motto.
Clever, these Canadians-
In any event, "Phil" the Venue has been decided.
"Hear ye, hear ye" THE ROY THINNES TESTIMONIAL DINNER WILL TAKE PLACE
IN THE MONTH OF APRIL OF 2005-
(Exact dates to be announced).
SO FAR, NO DEADLINE WILL BE SET FOR "LATE COMERS" but, AFTER THE HOLIDAYS--
WE WILL HAVE TO SET A "CUT-OFF DATE" SO AS TO FINALIZE THE NUMBER OF
GUESTS IN ATTENDANCE"
We will not exceed a specific number.
And, I am bringing about 10 in my entourage--ONLY one Alien will be in
attendance.
And, Jasmine will not be there; but she is lending me her hypnobeamcrystal and
one Death disc for any irate parking lot attendant who gets on our nerves.
After our guest list is completed, I will be sending you all newly manufactured
Nokia Half-Egg Communicators--NO DIALING NECESSARY--
so we can keep in touch with one another, while hanging around Manhattan-
YES--the Two Italian cuties will be there--and my son, Dominic and Dora the FBI agent
and two other people--
NONE of these people(except for Dominic) know who the "heck" Roy Thinnes is;
or "THE INVADERS" for that matter; but WHAT THEY DO KNOW IS--
COUSIN PAULIE LIKES THIS GUY--and so they are coming for ME!
(Or is it the Free Meal?)!
Anyway, It will be a great Dinner; a memorable one for ourselves--I for one, am
looking forward to meeting PHIL--
LINDSAY(I owe you a Drink, or two for the Knee jerk thingy-and then you can buy me one--)
and "IF" you are nice enough to me-I will let you dance with Monica and
Cynthia--
OR, "they" will let you dance with them--
"THEY" may not even let Cousin PAULIE dance with them--
In fact, Monica asked me, "Paulie--Who is this Thinnes guy-?"
"he is into aliens,too?"
Oh, God--PAWWWLLEEE--U R ReEELLLy GO win NuTZY awn NUSSS!"
"Couple of spins on that Hypnobeamer and Monica and Cynthia will be just fine!"
Dear Paulie: I can tell you right now, the aliens may as well pack up, and go back to their own planet, or find another one if they think they can take this planet over while foolishly depending upon humans and their dumb-arse insurance companies!! Next, they will be depending on our insurance companies approving the exportation and re-importation from Canada of cerebral hemorrhage discs, hypnotic prizms, occasional shipments of ray guns, and even their brain-washing and brain-probing machines!! In fact, I would be so bold as to sit down with alien leader, Mr. Nexis-Ryder, and "sadly" tell him: "Sir, it just ain't gonna work for your people that way!" Anyway, I have a replica of a cerebral hemorrhage disc that I made myself, plus a broken storage cooler temperature gauge that could possibly be a good thing to make an early model disc out of, given the right kind and color of paint!! If any of you are thinking of bringing any replicas of these things, remember, that if you travel by airliner, you might be stopped and searched, and go through the embarrassment of explaining what these little round disc-things are, and whether there may be powdered cocaine, or heroin inside of them!! Over and out! Lindsay
"I am just joking--"
IN FACT, ANOTHER ABSOLUTE PREREQUISITE OF ROY'S IS--this is to be
JUST A DINNER--(and we of course will conduct ourselves as dinner hosts/guests
only),
IT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN "INVADERS" Thingy--
HE IS INTO ART NOW--so, since he is the "guest of honor" I cannot speak for others; but
I will do a lot of LISTENING to EACH OTHER--but As far as Roy Himself is concerned,
I am curious to hear what he and his wife are into.
There will be ample time--I am sure--over cocktails, etc., to chat a bit
about how much we "love the guy" and all that--
BUT IN NO WAY SHAPE OF FORM ARE WE TO THINK OF THIS IN A CONVENTION MODE-
I attended a Star Trek Convention(NOT FOR ME-I REALLY DISLIKED THAT SHOW--
CANNOT STOMACH SHATHER)-
It was for my little boy, Henry--at that time--and We met the GREAT
MARINA SIRTIS--
Mind you, it was not the Audience whos conduct was brought into question--
it was her's.
I mean, there were really young kids there--9, 10-
and I mean this gal used vernacular that Truck Drivers would cringe at...
WHAT A PIECE OF WORK SHE IS!
So--this will be a really, gala affair-
It will be held at the METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART in their CATERING
FACILITY-
IT is GOING TO BE JUST GRAND!
Hi Lisa
Further to Mark Hookway's helpful comments, if what Channel 5 have told him turns out to be true - i.e. that they do indeed intend to show 'Season 2' straight after 'Season 1' (concluding with THE CONDEMNED, this weekend) AND there are no breaks in the weekly broadcast sequence - then THE WATCHERS should go out on the (early) morning of Sunday 21st November. The episodes preceding this should be CONDITION:RED and THE SAUCER.
[If anyone out there disagrees with this, please correct me if I'm wrong.]
Whatever, let's hope Channel 5 have no more unwelcome surprises up their sleeve!
Hi, Phil-
have a great day!
Paulie
PS--Thanks for the kind kudos and "you too are the best, mate!"
Hi again Lisa, also Mark
Continuing from the previous message, looking again at Mark's first posting in which he mentions his phone call to Channel 5, I noticed that it isn't clear whether he asked specifically if they intend to show Season 2. The relevant extract reads thus:
"Anyway I thought I should let you know that I had today spoken to Channel Five about the episode "The Condemned" which wasn't shown on Sunday morning and I was informed that Five will be showing this episode on this coming Sunday morning. Therefore the showing of the start of series 2 (Episode Condition:Red) will naturally be put back to the week after."
Mark, can you clarify - is the reference to Series 2 in the last sentence based-upon your own deduction, or upon what Channel 5 definitely advised you?
I tried calling Channel 5 myself (0870 705 0505) but got a recorded message saying that there was no-one to answer my call due to a "staff awayday", and advising me to call in again from Monday 1st November onward!
Paul
And the top of the morning to you too my friend!
I've been in contact with the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, and will be e-mailing you either tonight or tomorrow morning.
Just one issue with what you mentioned in your earlier "announcement" regarding the dinner event: 'The Invaders' as such won't be a taboo subject for discussion, indeed I believe Roy and John are both aware that this is the main factor which has brought us all together, as well as his own main 'claim to fame'. If you see my original 'broadcast' message, which states:
"Of course, due respect will be paid to The Invaders, plus Roswell and other serious UFO-related topics, but NO banner-waving 'Trekkie'-style paraphernalia please!"
As you know, Roy is interested in the UFO phenomenon - hence his annual prescence at Roswell. I'm sure there will be no objection to discussions relating to his other acting roles, including Jeremiah Smith in 'The X-Files' as well as his appearances in 'From Here to Eternity' and various big-screen films. However, his enthusiasm for painting will of course be a main point of interest also.
Cheers for now, Phil.
Sorry for the "control" thingy--I get carried away with the OUTER LIMITS-
I am NOT going to control people's minds, nor suggest how they behave-
I guess, in an abundance of caution, I just want to REMIND--(NOT REPRIMAND) us
here that it won't be exactly a "Convention-Styled" affair-
CERTAINLY the "INVADERS" is what brought us together--but,
I just like to "read-the-crowd" sorta thing- and engage whatever
the group wishes to discuss.
Monica and Cynthia will be so obvious in their "Beauty" as well as their
"Nooo YAWkish" personalities, that perhaps we should be reminded from time to time
that, "ohh--yeah--By the way, you are Roy---What did you say your name was?"
I thought that I should clarify what I had been told by Channel 5 about The Condemned and the showing of Series 2 episodes in my telephone call to them on 25/10/2004.
I started by asking them when they intended to broadcast The Condemned which as all UK viewers know was not shown in the early hours of 24/10/2004. I was told that it would be shown at 4.20am on Sunday 31/10/2004.
I then pointed out that the pages in various TV guides had got Condition:Red(first episode of series 2)to be shown on 31/10/2004 and asked therefore when they would be starting to show series 2 episodes. The lady I spoke to advised me that series 2 starting with Condition:Red would be shown from 07/11/2004 onwards.
Claira/Lisa, I hope this information is helpful to you and in answer to your question on when The Watchers is due to be shown,it would appear to be on 21/11/2004 since The Watchers comes two episodes after Condition:Red due to be shown on 07/11/2004.
So Phil you are absolutely right about the broadcast date of The Watchers based on the information that I was given by Channel Five.
I hope that my call to Channel Five has answered questions that UK viewers may have had on the showing of The Condemned and series 2. I only hope that Channel Five now stay true to their word following my phone call to them.
Regards
Mark
thanks for your information on the watchers ,im looking forward to seeing that one as well as dark outpost , i prefered the episodes when DV was hunting or being hunted in the desert ,cheers for now
So to sum up the previous posts we have another 23 weeks of The Invaders to look forward to --God is in his Heaven and all is right with the world.On the downside i"ll have to buy seven new VHS tapes! NTDR I have to say i totally agree with you about Star Trek.I was about six when The Invaders first showed in the UK and then it finished and Trek started.The first Trek episode i saw had Kirk fighting an alien called a Gorn and i remember thinking "this is stupid,thats just a man in a crocodile suit".It was downhill from there although when Trek finished they started showing the British series UFO which was excellent.
hello to all fans this is my 1st posting on web site dont forget that the clocks alter on sunday morning bst glad to hear channel 5 are showing more episodes i have been taping 5 episodes on 4 hour vhs the more episodes the better dont forget clocks alter cheers dave b
on the weekends, "Have a Great Weekend Everybody"--
REMEMBER: SPRING: SPRING FORWARD AN HOUR. FALL(AUTUMN): FALL BACK AN HOUR. At least that is how it works here in the USA!! Lindsay
The intro voice of "Outer Limits" was done by Vic Perrin--bApr26, 1916--d.4th of July 1989..
He was the voice of 'Nomad' on a Star Trek, and in SUMMIT MEETING PART ONE he is the alien with the crystals who hypnotizes William Windom into shooting DV..He was also a Martian (alien) on TZ in "People Are Alike All Over" starring other Invaders actors Roddy McD, Sue Oliver, and Byron Keith.. regards, jim--xnyckid
I've just looked at the page and can't decide if this is legit or a possible scam. Can anyone who may have bought them let us know if they received them OK? What about copyright or publishing rights etc?
Nigel
Apologies for the last message, but that was my first post here and I got confused by the Reply button, so hence the meaningless message. So, has anyone bought a set of 15 DVDs as advertised on that site?
As I said in the previous message, does the seller have publishing rights etc? Only it's a lot of money to fork out on pikey stuff!
Nigel
Its a scam.Besides shelling out good money for something that has probably been recorded from the Sci Fi Channel, you deny Worldvision and {presumably} Roy Thinnes their rightful earnings.
I had the privilege of working with a great Chief of Police here in
South Florida, in the late '80's; and he told me a few years ago, he
saw his entire world going down the drain, because he took his Job, his career
and his responsiblity to the exaggerated "max" almost like an addition.
He and I used to play volleyball together, and workout.
I see him from time to time now, he has since retired.
I saw a bumper sticker on the back of his car, and asked him, "Hey
Chief, What does that Sticker mean--'Easy does it'?"
His answer to me was, "It'a an "AA" sticker--
I knew he did not mean, the American Automobile Club.
Alcoholics Anonymous-
Their philosophy, and spiritual guidance, is probably one of the
greatest programs in the world to date.
All of us(ALL)are suceptible to one form of addiction, or another:
Ego, Arrogance, Pride, Superiority, Food, Drugs, Sex, Anger--and
even doing Good, and the like--can all be taken to an extreme.
Now, one may wonder, "what the hell is NTDR talking about?"
"MAN--NTDR must be taking some funny stuff tonight--"
Nope-
Just as a friend, y'all, Read it again-
I love you all.
Paulie
Hello all you great fans of the greatest show ive ever seen.Just got back from the states this morning and boy am i tired.But awaiting me is the best news ive had in a long time if my bleary eyes serve me correct,channel 5 are showing the 2nd series? or maybe its just a combination of jet lag and wishful thinking? and to add even more pleasure to my return home,im gonna pig out on the last 3 weeks episodes that i taped whilst away.its my birthday on thursday,but it feels like its come a few days early!
Only thing is,back to reality in the morning,WORK!!.now i remember what the downside to coming home was,not to mention the pile of bills waiting behind the door which seemed to have a malicious grin etched across the envelopes when i picked them up.And i thought the aliens were the scariest thing id seen when i was a kid!
Guess im in need of another holiday,so lets get to New York and meet the great man himself.
Have a great weekend,whats left of it,and happy halloween to you all.
Lyndon
hi there, i'm prity new to this chat forum but i m a big fan of the invaders but my problem is i would love to have a load of them to own does anyone have any i could get a copy of i would be more than willing to pay. thanx
Firstly, "hey--mate" to Phil--our CAPTAIN and most Worthy Co-Oridinator of
our Imminent dinner party with our hero, Roy Thinnes.
And, a grand hello to all our loyal fans and aficionados of this show, Roy,
maybe ourselves here--and a special, Warm embrace and thanks goes out
to our "Charlie"(like in Charlie's Angels") who has been assisting us
in making this Testimonial for Roy(it's really for us, you know)
a reality-
Believe me, I cannot emphasise that the people who are helping us get this
thing together are of the highest caliber. And it is an honoUr and a pleasure to
work with people--at any level--of this yoke.
As for KEITH--I suggest you make contact with jim of (xnyckid)--he may be able to point
you in a direction where you can get some nice, clean episodes of
the Invaders--
Are you in USA? Because they have to be the NTSC type; not the PAL-
on tapes--
They also have some DVD's.
I have them all. BUT I don't sell them.
And, they are not all good quality.
My favorite is "The Trial."
Perhaps, because I work in criminal court!
In any event,
Getting to an Episode that was underestimated:
"THE MUTATION"
There, AGAIN---Roy did another superb job in acting.
Check out the scene where he is in the Jeep with Suzanne Pleshette, and
they start out on the trek through the desert--
Roy askes her, "How far is it?"
She totally ignores him(Typical Alien? Or, Typical Woman?)!
Roy goes on to say, "Look-I know I am not Paying you for KHAN Ver SAY shun
(Chicago Accent is Strong there), but I have to know some things."
She answers, reluctantly--as though it causes Aliens Pain to talk too much-
*But she rambled on at the table the night before about how she saw
a spaceship trying to turn over that old Chrysler engine-
Watch how Roy's face --almost prefectly--breaths slightly hard, and fills is cheeks
with air, like "man--this is going to be the longest treasure hunt in history with
this jerk"!
Great actor.
Great scene.
Not a bad episode.
Edward Andrews --who played the Alien newspaper reporter, Evans, was excellent!
I always liked that actor.
He played in TWO GREAT Twilight Zone episodes.
One, with Fritz Weaver--and one where he accidentally hit a kid on
his bicycle, and his '56 Ford began to mirror a conscience, and torment
him until he finally(almost) did the right thing--
Not Quite--
If you ever get a chance to see it, it is called, "You Drive"-
My dad had a '55 Ford(6 volt) and it was nearly the same car-
It was a Lemon and a half--but it was a pretty car for it's time.
It's probably still running--I think I saw it in Havana!
...but they do get blisters!
Edward Andrews--Alien Evans--had a Band-Aid on his index finger during that
episode.
Check out the penultimate scene where he is eavesdropping on a phone call--
his index finger has a blister or a cut, covered up with a Band-Aid!
FELLOWS: "Do you plan on staying around awhile?"
EVANS: "For awhile." with that funny kinda grin Edward Andrews always had!
Well, yeah---DUHHHH---The Aliens plan on staying around a LONG WHILE!
Hmm... I had a nasty feeling there was something dodgy there! Thanks for the heads up!
Regarding last night's episode: I presume Ch5 are going to skip showing "The Condemned" episode as last night's episode was "Condition Red" (the first of Series 2 I presume).
A question: I was looking carefully at the video quality of last night's episode and it did seem remarkably good. Is it possible that The Invaders has been digitally remastered? And is it mere coincidence that Ch5 are showing it as a "toe in the water" to see if enough people watch, so that a decision regarding a DVD release can be made??
GK
nice too see the acts were back where they belonged in CONDITION-RED ,dont know why ch5 have left them out of most of the programmes ????? , thought it was strange at the start when the doctor gets dragged across the road down the bank and into the lake by the aliens ,usually its just a zap with their gun or a disk to the neck ,surely the police would have noticed more than one set of footprints near the lakes edge ,or dont they leave footprints ????
mmmm im 100% sure CONDITION-RED was shown on sunday morning which i find VERY strange , im sure NOW I MIGHT BE WRONG that Mr Forster said he talked to ch5 and they said the condemned would be shown ?????????????????? ,well you did ask to be corrected
Barry,it was myself who had contacted Channel 5 on 25/10/2004 to be told that they would be showing The Condemned in the early hours of 31/10/2004 and then series 2 from the week after.
It appears that I had been misinformed by Five when I discovered that they had decided instead to show Condition:Red earlier this morning. Also after looking through the TV pages yesterday that came with the daily paper,I could see that channel 5 were going to go ahead and show Condition:Red. I would like to have had the opportunity to query this with Five, but Phil Forster stated in one of his earlier postings that he had tried to contact Five on 29/10/2004,only to be told that staff were on a away day and to call back on Monday 01/11/2004.
Still despite all of this,it was nice to see The Invaders back on Channel 5 once more and I hope that there are no more hiccups with the showing of the series 2 episodes over the next several weeks.
And as for when channel 5 will get round to showing The Condemned,your guess is as good as mine on that I'm afraid.
Regards
Mark
I have recently watched a copy of the 'unaired'? longer pilot version of BEACHHEAD and was wondering if anyone knew why two versions exist?
Has the longer version ever been aired? Was it a first cut before editing to shorten it's running time for broacast?
Thanks for any replies.
does DV have a special drink he has in any episodes ,like James Bond and his martini ,noticed in CONDITION -RED he asked for a scotch
Ok so the clocks went back last night.I adjusted the VCR clock and set it to Videoplus.It showed BBC1.I set it manually and everything looked good.This morning i get up and discover it has taped some bunch of meatheads playing football.Swearing is verboten on this site so I"ll say-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------b+++++ds!Not content with that,instead of "The Condemned" they show one of my favourite episodes "Condition Red".Is this some kind of personal vendetta against me by C5 or natures way of telling me i should like sport?If my VCR wasn"t so expensive it would be wearing some bumps now!
regards to all i dont want to put any dampners on the showing of invaders but with xmas on the horizon you cant really tell what will happen ie i used to tape a certain series by irwin allen land of the giants and although lots had been shown the series ended at xmas amid series and i hope this doesnt happen again to the invaders
hello to all just wondering after all the speculation about series one ending and not showing series 2 with episode the condemened still fresh in mind with xmas coming will the next 22 episodes be shown or will it be like a series i recorded many years ago by mr irwin allen three quaters through land of the giants on c4 the series ended early with the xmas programes and wasnt resumed afterwards heres hoping it doesnt happen again i still have nt seen all of mr r thinnes work in this brill series yet
Most of the times we see Roy Drinking during the series, he is downing a
Beer--
"Draught Beer" to be exact.
Now, for me--Chicago Paulie--(though I have lived in Florida for 27 years-)
"...you can take the kid out of Chicago; you cannot take the Chicago out of the kid..."
I remember great Chicago Taverns--"Old Style Beer" -"ON TAP" meaning, "Draught-"
I don't drink too much at all; but I like Strongbow's Cider-
Hear that, "UK MATES"?
ROY accepted a "Scotch" form the Airforce Major, married to his Alien wife-
By the way, Jason Evers was one of the lousiest actors in the entire
series-
Sorry to say, but I know good actors.
ROY is one of the best actors in the entire industry-
In fact, do you all know that Roy was in an amazing, fantastic program with
another Great, Fine, Legendary Actor, Luther Adler--
The name of the Program was "The Psychiatrist"--
In fact, Roy is looking forward to meeting "us" at his Testimonial, because it
is obvious that "ALL" of us are suffering from some sort of Major Mental Disorder!
Just kidding--
Not "ALL" of us; Only half of us!
(I am definately part of that half!)
Are VCRs really expensive in The UK?..I bought my first one here in The States in 1986, a 2-head/mono Magnavox for about $225US back then..It actually lasted about 11 years..NOW, all the new popular 4-head/stereo models can be had here for say $49-79US, that general price area..Of course there is now built-in self destruction, much like 'Nomad', and they are ready for the garbage heap in about 2.5-3 years, but well worth it!..Fortunately for myself, all my 43 Invaders eps taped in 1991 on The SciFiChannel on that old Panasonic are still compatible with the several Y2K+-VCRs that I now have..BTW, if you saw CONDITION RED
it means that next week you will get to see THE SAUCER, one of my VERY favorite eps..
Hi again alan, it was a Panasonic, not a Magnavox, as posted by me in a mixup..VCRs are
unfortunately on their way out, the 'thing' is DVDs, and they are beyond me for now..jim
Despite completely forgetting about the clocks going back I managed to tape Condition Red, in my opinion a 'solid' Invaders entry. One to many implausibilities for my liking.
Interesting new Invaders gadgetry with the ring and headset. And an exciting scene at the end when the Invaders invasion force suddenly show up on the radar board.
But another episode which begins with David Vincent investigating something he read about in the paper. Where he finds to monitor all those newspapers is perhaps the biggest unanswered question in the series.
"Condition Red" was kind of exciting; and the "wife" was pretty
effective as his "alien" wife; Unfortunately, Jason Evers' acting is
dismal. But the supporting cast(many of the QM regulars) were excellent as
character actors.
Again, our hero Roy did some magnificent acting--especially when one observes his
persistence in the General's office; and his "inverview" in Jason Evers' house-as a
newspaper man--Watch Roy's hand movement when he uses the new wife's name--he
points upward--as though he is making a distinction of the wife's name-as though he
had done his "homework"-
Some of the acting is really weak--Evers'-
BUT, as you said, the gadgetry was neat--the "head" thingy--and the whacked out
"magic ring"--WEIRD-
She was weird.
Not "that" bad an episode.
Interesting plot-
Good writing-
"David" again was effective-
I like how many of the episodes start out with the Voice making the statement,"
In the Nightmare world of David Vincent..."
Has anyone been able to answer the question:
Q. Which one (only one) of all the episodes had an EXIT THEME(Dominic Frontiere again)
that was a VARIATION of the Usual Exit theme?"
The Modulating Trumpets in the second stanza was very, very pretty.
This was "close" to the Invaders' theme, but a very lovely score.
Anyone know which?
I put my money on JIM! (xnyckid)!
This Guy Knows EVERYTHING!
You're talkin' about the closing to THE MUTATION?..Seems what I think you mean!..Mort Mills-b.Jan11, 1919-d.6-6-1993--NYC--is the clean-up alien in CONDITION RED credited as Mr Arius but never called that..With the recent death of Janet Leigh it brings to mind that HE too was in 'Psycho'..Note too the Princess Phone used in the episode..Did they have a teenage girl somehwere on the premises?
Indeed, in the age before computers as we now know them--(anyone can read any newspaper) it IS amazing that DV was somehow able to access nation-wide newspapers, and ones mostly in small US towns..But the bigger question is--how much money as an architect did this guy make to enable him to travel across the continent via car, bus, and plane from week to week in pursuit?..And to rent cars, take taxis, dine and drink in upscale restaurants, stay in nice hotels, and always have a ready wad of cash to pay for info on the aliens?...It does make one think..
Reassured that Five are back on track, unlike my poxy Panasonic video which didnt recognise the clock change so I recorded an hour of Aussie soaps - AAAAAARGh !
Two weeks without The Invaders now & I'm becoming not a little IRRITABLE.......
Please soothe my withdrawal symptoms by describing the alien invasion force.....
Dear nottoodistantPaulie: Are you referring to the episode'THE MUTATION' which has the different ending theme music? I thought I mentioned that already in a posting back in mid-July just before they showed that episode. Are you referring to the dramatic/romantic music that they played during the end credits showing at the end of the show in 'THE MUTATION'? If that is it, I already mentioned it in July, but yes, it is beautiful!! Lindsay PS I think I sound redundant in this posting, I just wanted to be clear on it Lindsay
Hi Alan,
I can only share your pain.I too am a victim of this syndrome - but at least you got some footie ( US "soccer" )
It is looking more certain that the staff at C5 have been infiltrated by our alien friends.Clearly their lack of need for sleep - and ability to sit up,unbored, through the other early hours drivel on UK TV - gave them a huge advantage in their job applications.
And of course they can probably disrupt our VCR signals from their saucers.
Are you sure there isnt a disused railway car near your house? If so, take a cautious peek inside - but dont climb in unless you want a cerebral haemorrhage or an encounter with Jasmine !
My Hat goes off to All of you guys--I cannot stand up to your trivia ability.
Incredible.
And Lindsay --sorry, I did not read your diddy about the music--I did not want to
plagerize your commentaries--
Hey---Let's not forget about the dinner-
Phil is doing remarkable "leg-work" for a guy who resides in the
Land of Sunshine and Palm trees-"oh--whoops--That's me-- He lives in ENGLAND!
I love the rain-
and, Strongbow's Cider--
Also, did anyone notice how -when "No.1 Alien" Roy Jenson/Jensen--Canadian confused
head thug alien got shot with Rodolfo Hoyos' nifty Winchester--
when "Roy (T) shot Roy(J) --No.1 Alien kicked the sand in Frustration, after having missed
Roy and hit a 55 Gallon Drum instead--NOTE how He vanished in the classic alien style; and
somehow his Ray Gun "Also" vanished--
Man, that would have been nifty evidence to show "Fellows" that Aliens
really are here.
Seems like a lot of ceremony to "Whack" David--IF Pleshette's objective was to
drive him out to the sight of the spaceship, and have the thugs whack him there--
WHY didn't she just "Death Disc" him in he Jeep as he was lighting a cigarette?
Ohh--I know why? That would be the end of the show.
DUHHHHHHH!
.. but he drank plenty of spirits when offered by that nice, polite Magnus / Michael Rennie !
"Have a drink, Mr Vincent. "
What a chilling scene that is.
Barry,
Good point, but hats off to C5 for showing each episode without commercial breaks.
I wonder if that ever happens stateside !
It was a great moment. In the episode Major Keller in his dying words manages to tell the Airforce how there system has been duped. After making the switch to the back-up computers, the previously blank radar board suddenly reveals 15 sinister red blips, accompanied by eerie noise - moving at high speed over Alaska. Sadly we don't see all the saucers in tight formation, but it probably works better for us having to imagine what that would look like.
There's a montage of shots of fighter jets being scrambled to intercept, however the Invaders realise the game is up and abort the invasion. DV has won this battle, but the war continues.
This last bit makes you wonder what would happen if a jet fighter took on one of the saucers in a dog fight.
Hi NTDR,
You had me going for a minute there, I thought I had just missed another episode with La Pleshette.
Surely she didnt zap DV because she felt merciful towards him. A mistake which your Jasmine, of course, would never have made........but in that case why did she never zap you ?? Were you more useful to her alive and earning ?
And do we really have to wait until Episode 42 before we glimpse Pleshette's divine form again??
Nice account.
Saucer vs. jet ? Result - ZAP !
Brings to mind the USS Enterptrise vs a starfighter.....sorry, wrong website.
im getting exited about the Dark oupost episode now that we know they are showing series 2 , it will proberly land on christmas or new year week and will be put off like the condemned has,and as the rest of you are saying "YES" hats off for Jim for his knowledge of the show ,one question Jim ,when i first joined saw the forum i was amazed by your liking for the series ,didnt you have something to do with the show ?? or was it you knew somebody who was in the series ,it was about a year ago i recall seeing something along that lines .
Hi Jim, when i said VCRs were expensive i was being "ironic" in other words just too expensive to smash! I actually have a decoder to send TV signals to my PC but my TV is already festooned with cables and i have given up trying to figure out where they go to.As you say "The Saucer"[ which i have on Worldvision video ] is superb and brings to mind a question i wanted to ask:-How many eps had alien children? "Jimmy" at the start of The Saucer is an alien {i think} although i guess the aliens had no use for them-can you imagine alien kids in the back of the saucer whining "are we there yet?"!Peter,you have relieved my suffering by the thought of TWO HOURS of Sons and Daughters!!! On "Condition Red" i have always felt that Stephen Spielberg was influenced by The Invaders and maybe thats where the radar room scene in CE3K came from and also the scene in his awful {my opinion} TV series "Taken".
Hi all
First off - a hearty and warm welcome to our newcomers Daz, Keith and Dave Brown. Look forward to hearing more from you.
Mark Hookway, thanks for putting the record straight about who called Channel 5 last week and what was said - hugely appreciated! As you may or may not know, I can't access the Chat Page via AOL at week-ends (unless I travel up to my office in London - no thanks!) so your intervention was valuable.
I've just called Channel 5 (0845 705 0505 - NOT prefixed '0870' as I said last Friday). The helpful young lady who answered assured me she had been in touch with their scheduling dept who have realised their mistake, and THE CONDEMNED should now go out this weekend. [LISA/CLAIRA, if they're true to their word then THE WATCHERS should be back to the date I originally gave i.e. November 21st - although I wouldn't place any bets just yet!].
And so to CONDITION: RED. As one who owns nearly all episodes on VHS, I don't bother watching the Channel 5 broadcasts, however I DID make the effort with this one as I was keen to see if the same five minutes or so of action that was missing from my version recorded in 1990 was missing again - and, to my dismay it was!
I'm surprised no-one else here has picked-up on this yet, as it really is a glaring omission - when David snoops on Laura Keller taking her moonlight horseride to the alien hideaway in the forest, he waits while she rides away again before emerging from his place of hiding. Then, the action cuts abruptly to two of the aliens zapping David's car with their ray-guns, and then AGAIN skips a sequence to where he collapses in exhaustion on a grass verge.
As I recall from the previous UK screening in 1985, David waits while the coast is clear then sneaks into the aliens' hut, snoops around awhile then gets 'tumbled' and makes a run for it. After a long chase he reaches his car, tries to start it but realises the aliens are almost upon it, so he quickly sneaks out the door on the far side just before it gets incinerated. The aliens believe they've zapped him with the car and retreat back from where they came, but David makes sure of escape by scurrying-on a little further, until the point where the action resumes as he collapses.
Jim - care to correct me on any innacuracies there, as it's all from near 20-year-old memory????
Off home now.... until tomorrow my friends!
The watchers is my best episode to date because it's basically one I'll always remember from my childhood, meaning probably the last time I saw it aired.
I remember Conditon Red only because it's the bloke out of a Star Trek and Knight Rider episode I've seen before.
When the programme is aired I urge to watch the part where Vincent is in the rooom with the blind girl. She knows that someone is there and Vincent does not say a word. There are so wonderful parts in that one episode and the charactors really shine out in this episode. Roll on Sunday the 21st November.
Phil, I hope you didn't fall asleep on the train journey home. My stories are not that gripping or edge of your seat stuff.
See ya, guys and girls.
Claira Vincent
Hi everyone,this is a great place,stumbled across by accident and glad i did.Can this fantastic series be obtained on dvd or vhs???I also know im being greedy but would love the theme tune for my mobile phone,that tune is haunting but great.Again thanks for all your info in this site ,its answered loads of my questions aidan
I miss you, my dear friend.
How is Grand Ol'e England?
I love that country!
Hope all is well, my dear friend.
talk to you soon.
Take care.
Name: Gareth
Email: theyendles@btinternet.com
Sunday 24th October 2004 10:48 am U.K. Time
Subject: The Condemned
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Sunday 24th October 2004 1:02 pm U.K. Time
Subject: damn baseball !!
Name: Christian Macé
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Subject: USA had possessed Aliens Invaders !...
Name: Lindsay
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Sunday 24th October 2004 6:12 pm U.K. Time
Subject: &*$%^#@%$!!$%^&*&*?*^^%%$$$$#$@^%&* IT ALREADY!!!!
Name: Sam
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Sunday 24th October 2004 7:03 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Channel 5 scheduling
Name: Claira Vincent
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Sunday 24th October 2004 7:32 pm U.K. Time
Subject: The Invaders Channel 5 Sunday October 24th 2004 The Condemed
Name: Alan
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Subject: Baseball?!!
Name: Barry
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Subject: baseball !!
Name: jim
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Monday 25th October 2004 7:52 am U.K. Time
Subject: on baseball interrupting our favorite show in The UK..
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Subject: Hello Claira,
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Subject: Re: The Invaders Channel 5 Sunday October 24th 2004 The Condemed
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Subject: Re: Channel 5 & The Condemed - HI AGAIN CLAIRA/LISA
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Subject: Re: Channel 5 scheduling - HI SAM
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Monday 25th October 2004 9:27 am U.K. Time
Subject: The Condemned was condemned!
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Monday 25th October 2004 10:25 am U.K. Time
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Subject: christian, on the UFO photos--
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Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Tuesday 26th October 2004 10:14 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: The Condemned and Series 2 episodes - HELLO AND WELCOME, MARK
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Tuesday 26th October 2004 10:20 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: on baseball interrupting our favorite show in The UK. - HI JIM
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Tuesday 26th October 2004 10:48 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Invaders on DVD?
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Tuesday 26th October 2004 11:15 am U.K. Time
Subject: TAUGUS - WHERE ARE YOU????
Name: Mike
Email: mike@hotmail.com
Tuesday 26th October 2004 2:35 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Baseball
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Tuesday 26th October 2004 5:45 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Baseball - HI MIKE
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Tuesday 26th October 2004 6:50 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Baseball !!
Name: Alan
Email: lewis@nerco.fsnet.co.uk
Tuesday 26th October 2004 8:37 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Baseball
Name: Mark Hookway
Email: hookway@fsmail.net
Tuesday 26th October 2004 10:23 pm U.K. Time
Subject: signal quality on Invaders episodes shown on Five
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Tuesday 26th October 2004 10:36 pm U.K. Time
Subject: baz10@baz10.force9.
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 12:15 am U.K. Time
Subject: Aliens get hungry, too...
Name: Alan
Email: lewis@nerco.fsnet.co.uk
Wednesday 27th October 2004 12:24 am U.K. Time
Subject: Channel 5 Signal Problems
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 12:39 am U.K. Time
Subject: Angery David Vincent in 'THE BELIEVERS'.
Name: Craigh
Email: craighdawson@btinternet.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 1:01 am U.K. Time
Subject: Channel 5
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 1:08 am U.K. Time
Subject: Hey, Lindsay...
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 8:04 am U.K. Time
Subject: barry,
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 8:16 am U.K. Time
Subject: ntdr, on alien discounts--
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 1:51 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Hey, Lindsay... re. "The Dinner" - HI PAULIE
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 2:10 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Baseball !! - HEY BARRY
Name: Taugus
Email: alien@invaders
Wednesday 27th October 2004 5:18 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Greetings
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 6:26 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Greetings - HI TAUGUS, WELCOME BACK!
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Wednesday 27th October 2004 8:18 pm U.K. Time
Subject: keep your baseball !!
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Wednesday 27th October 2004 8:26 pm U.K. Time
Subject: invaders or baseball this sunday morning
Name: kiwifrank
Email: mrmrssin@hotmail.comNOSPAMPLEASE
Wednesday 27th October 2004 10:41 pm U.K. Time
Subject: An INVADERS-related discussion...
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 11:01 pm U.K. Time
Subject: 21st Century? Replace the "reds/Invaders" with -?
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Wednesday 27th October 2004 11:26 pm U.K. Time
Subject: My dear friends Phil, Lindsay and the rest of the Loyal Clan-(sounds a bit Irish; eh?)
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:05 am U.K. Time
Subject: hi Taugus,
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:18 am U.K. Time
Subject: re--84th & 5th--NYC--and Roy..
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:54 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: 21st Century? Replace the reds/Invaders with -?
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 9:01 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: keep your baseball !! - BARRY, CAN'T YOU READ????
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 11:11 am U.K. Time
Subject: Red Sox won the series!!
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 11:44 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: An INVADERS-related discussion...
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 12:10 pm U.K. Time
Subject: reactions to baseball game on ch.5
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 12:16 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Thanks,Paulie!!
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 12:20 pm U.K. Time
Subject: "No "chance"! i am not political! Phil!
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 1:58 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: No chance - I am not political! Phil! - NO PROBLEM PAULIE!!!!
Name: Claira Vincent
Email: lisasargent@fsmail.net
Thursday 28th October 2004 3:51 pm U.K. Time
Subject: After all the baseball hype!!!
Name: jim waters
Email: jameswaters116@hotmail.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 7:54 pm U.K. Time
Subject: invaders dvd
Name: jim waters
Email: jameswaters116@hotmail.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:01 pm U.K. Time
Subject: invaders on dvd
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:04 pm U.K. Time
Subject: which episode Jim ?
Name: jim waters
Email: jameswaters116@hotmail.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:08 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: which episode Jim ?
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:11 pm U.K. Time
Subject: hi lindsay
Name: jim
Email: jameswaters116@hotmail.com
Thursday 28th October 2004 8:12 pm U.K. Time
Subject: web site
Name: Taugus
Email: alien@invaders
Thursday 28th October 2004 9:22 pm U.K. Time
Subject: to Barry
Name: Mark Hookway
Email: hookway@fsmail.net
Thursday 28th October 2004 11:09 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Hi Claira/Lisa
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Friday 29th October 2004 1:14 am U.K. Time
Subject: "...aliens taking over Insurance Companies..."
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Friday 29th October 2004 4:55 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: ...aliens taking over Insurance Companies...
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Friday 29th October 2004 9:25 am U.K. Time
Subject: "no paraphernalia--" just joking...
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Friday 29th October 2004 9:31 am U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Hi Claira/Lisa
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Friday 29th October 2004 12:42 pm U.K. Time
Subject: good morning, Phil...
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Friday 29th October 2004 12:56 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Hi Claira/Lisa AND Mark Hookway
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Friday 29th October 2004 1:17 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: good morning, Phil... - Hi Paulie!
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Friday 29th October 2004 7:28 pm U.K. Time
Subject: "...this the the control voice..."
Name: Mark Hookway
Email: hookway@fsmail.net
Friday 29th October 2004 8:12 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Hi Phil and Claira/Lisa
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Friday 29th October 2004 8:54 pm U.K. Time
Subject: thanks Taugus !!
Name: Alan
Email: lewis@nerco.fsnet.co.uk
Friday 29th October 2004 9:34 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Series 2
Name: dave brown
Email: davebrown2003@msn.com
Friday 29th October 2004 10:19 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Series 2
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Saturday 30th October 2004 12:28 am U.K. Time
Subject: for all those who take it easy...
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Saturday 30th October 2004 3:25 am U.K. Time
Subject: The upcoming time change this weekend.
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Saturday 30th October 2004 6:13 am U.K. Time
Subject: ntdr--from the real lower-case jim--
Name: Green Knight
Email: nigel@wycombe.demon.co.uk
Saturday 30th October 2004 9:07 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Is this legit? Anyone bought a set?
Name: Green Knight
Email: nigel@wycombe.demon.co.uk
Saturday 30th October 2004 9:11 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Has anyone bought The Invaders series from www.tvseries-collection.com?
Name: Alan
Email: lewis@nerco.fsnet.co.uk
Saturday 30th October 2004 11:35 pm U.K. Time
Subject: DVDs
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Sunday 31st October 2004 12:32 am U.K. Time
Subject: "Easy does it..."
Name: lyndon
Email: lyndonshipston@msn.com
Sunday 31st October 2004 12:23 pm U.K. Time
Subject: season 2
Name: Keith
Email: Sha_ne2002@yahoo.co.uk
Sunday 31st October 2004 12:31 pm U.K. Time
Subject: episodes
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Sunday 31st October 2004 12:52 pm U.K. Time
Subject: More Great acting!
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Sunday 31st October 2004 12:58 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Aliens don't bleed, but...
Name: Green Knight
Email: nigel@wycombe.demon.co.uk
Sunday 31st October 2004 1:12 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: DVDs
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Sunday 31st October 2004 3:07 pm U.K. Time
Subject: ACTS
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Sunday 31st October 2004 3:35 pm U.K. Time
Subject: CONDEMNED
Name: Mark Hookway
Email: hookway@fsmail.net
Sunday 31st October 2004 4:26 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Hi Barry
Name: Daz
Email: daznet@yahoo.com
Sunday 31st October 2004 8:48 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Longer Pilot Episode
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Sunday 31st October 2004 9:20 pm U.K. Time
Subject: DV and his drinks
Name: Alan
Email: lewis@nerco.fsnet.co.uk
Sunday 31st October 2004 10:14 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Seeing [not] Red
Name: dave brown
Email: davebrown2003@msn.com
Sunday 31st October 2004 11:59 pm U.K. Time
Subject: channel 5
Name: dave brown
Email: davebrown2003@msn.com
Monday 1st November 2004 12:20 am U.K. Time
Subject: channel 5 and series two
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Monday 1st November 2004 2:28 am U.K. Time
Subject: "yeah--Chicago Roy mostly drinks Draught BEER"
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Monday 1st November 2004 7:36 am U.K. Time
Subject: hello alan,
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Monday 1st November 2004 7:41 am U.K. Time
Subject: alan--additional note to the above--
Name: Jilted Barfly
Email: will_slater@hotmail.com
Monday 1st November 2004 10:00 am U.K. Time
Subject: Condition Red
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Monday 1st November 2004 11:55 am U.K. Time
Subject: To: Jilted Barfly...
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Monday 1st November 2004 12:55 pm U.K. Time
Subject: hey ntdr,
Name: jim
Email: xnyckid@yahoo.com
Monday 1st November 2004 1:09 pm U.K. Time
Subject: hello mr barfly,
Name: peter.Rugby.UK
Email: preynolds@daventrydc.gov.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 3:49 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Condition Red - Hello Barfly
Name: Lindsay
Email: invaders1965@yahoo.com
Monday 1st November 2004 4:04 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: To: Jilted Barfly...
Name: peter.Rugby.UK
Email: preynolds@daventrydc.gov.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 4:08 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Seeing [not] Red -Alan
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Monday 1st November 2004 4:30 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Mort Mills, Alien, Highway Patrolman--Hitchcock's Classis(I did not like that movie-)
Name: peter.Rugby.UK
Email: preynolds@daventrydc.gov.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 4:40 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Chicago Roy mostly drinks Draught BEER - ntdr..
Name: peter.Rugby.UK
Email: preynolds@daventrydc.gov.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 4:44 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: ACTS / C5
Name: Jilted Barfly
Email: will_slater@hotmail.com
Monday 1st November 2004 4:48 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Condition Red - Hello Barfly
Name: peter.Rugby.UK
Email: preynolds@daventrydc.gov.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 5:01 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Pleshette/Mutation
Name: peter.Rugby.UK
Email: preynolds@daventrydc.gov.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 5:05 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Re: Re: Condition Red - Hello Barfly
Name: Barry
Email: baz10@baz10.force9.co.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 5:19 pm U.K. Time
Subject: Dark outpost
Name: Alan
Email: lewis@nerco.fsnet.co.uk
Monday 1st November 2004 6:57 pm U.K. Time
Subject: VCRs
Name: Phil Forster
Email: PhilsGameOn@AOL.com
Monday 1st November 2004 7:05 pm U.K. Time
Subject: "Welcome" all newcomers + Condition: Red/The Condemned + THANKS MARK HOOKWAY
Name: Claira Vincent
Email: lisasargent@fsmail.net
Monday 1st November 2004 7:24 pm U.K. Time
Subject: The Watchers
Name: Aidan
Email: focus_guy2000@yahoo.co.uk
Tuesday 2nd November 2004 1:28 am U.K. Time
Subject: DVDS
Name: nottoodistantrelative
Email: thinnes38@cs.com
Tuesday 2nd November 2004 1:32 am U.K. Time
Subject: Phil...