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Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th September 12:07 am U.K. Time

Sean,

E-mail me about the Macs.. with basics of each of the two types.. :)


Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th September 12:09 am U.K. Time

Jesse:

What size of SCSI you looking for?? We have several that run up to 4 GB, IIRC..


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 12:20 am U.K. Time

Brenda: I don't know a damn thing about them. I'll power them up and see if they are color. I have one set of keyboard and mouse for one ofhte em, and one for me. I'll get another one tomorrow.

Sean


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk
Thursday 26th September 12:28 am U.K. Time

Which Mac are you trying to plug in? The SE has two ADB ports in the back left so you can plug the maus and keyboard next to each other. (For fun I once hooked two mice up and played dueling mausies for the minute or so it was amusing) In the IIci and later Macs you had to plug the maus into the keyboard and the keyboard into the ADB port.

If you see the two serial ports (the phone and printer symbols) you should note that while you can hook a printer or phone in the opposite plug, Apple optimised each so they work best 'their' way.

And the little button with the arrow [ < ] on top of the keyboard is a Power-on button for models that don't have a direct On/Off toggle switch (like the IIci). It won't work for an SE which has an on/off switch. The SE also had a 'programmer's switch' - a oddly shaped plastic affair - that attached to the side and gave you outside access to an interrupt and reset button installed on the board inside. Apple made the switch available so that programmers could reboot and do troubleshooting but 'recommended' that ordinary users not actually install the switch. Apple seems to have been in permanant denial about the fallibility of their software and have consistantly made poor provisions for the need to shut down or reboot after a system crash. They refuse to put in a simple reset button and the one option for a crash reboot (COMMAND + OPTION + [<]) can only work if the failure hasn't disabled the keyboard controls...


Name: Olive Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com
Thursday 26th September 12:37 am U.K. Time

Were they out of Power PC's? A IIci isn't all that bad if you have a lot of older Mac software but you really want a Power PC if you want to do anything Macintosh nowadays...

Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Thursday 26th September 12:43 am U.K. Time

Howdy. Does anyone here have a timer door for an SL-HF750 they'd part with? It's the door on the right side of the machine that covers the timer controls. Thanks.

Name: Aaron
Email:
AaronM428@aol.com
Thursday 26th September 12:46 am U.K. Time

OK, the two SL-HF750's finally got here. The one refused to open the Linear Skate tray at all (possibly fuse?) and the other worked fine for a while, but now it thinks there is a tape in it all the time, and it refuses to eject. (It would eject fine earlier.) With the cover off, I see that it thinks it has the tape laced. When eject is pressed, the skate comes half-way out (the same as when one pushes the "Open/Close" button) and everything moves as though it's unlacing the tape, but after a couple seconds it re-laces the phantom tape and it stops. I presume that it's not ejecting because it thinks the tape is not unlacing even though there is no tape. I'd appreciate any help in fixing these problems, as I really like the decks. Thanks in advance.

Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Thursday 26th September 12:52 am U.K. Time

Aaron: Well, for the one that the drawer won't open, did you check the transport screws? It may sound silly, but it's something to check. They'll be red-colored, and there's two that screw in the bottom and one in the back of the VCR to keep the drawer from opening during shipping. All three store on the back of the machine near the power plug. As for the other one, that could be a variety of problems. Could be a bad sensor (maybe reel sensor), bad switch, something jammed, or even something electronic. Really impossible for me to tell without having it in front of me. Though, if you'd like to sell that one (or both) of the machines for parts, I'd be interested. Hope I could help.

Name: Olive Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com
Thursday 26th September 12:59 am U.K. Time

Oh I think those 2 SL-HF 750s are a goner. Better toss them out or better yet send the to the Olive E Thomas home for wayward Betamaxes... ;-)

But seriously, one the Beta refusing to open the door. Did you check to see if the transit screws were removed?

On the one with the 'phantom tape' problem. There's usually a plunger switch on the left side (not the record tab detector) that senses that there's a tape in the machine. If it's bent or set wrong the machine will still thin the tape is installed...

There are also switches (similar to the ones used in mouse buttons) along the loading ring as well. Check to see if they're in proper shape. As they are similar to mouse buttons they can be replaced easily if need be...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 1:02 am U.K. Time

Yeah, someone sleeched up all the POwerPCs, but the boxes of junk update regularly, so I may get one yet. There was a little thin MAC but it had no hard disc. The IIci is missing its top. I'm going to boot it soon, I'll let you guys know! I know have three monitors on my desk, the MAC, the PC, and the VT-101 soon to be connected to a mainframe in the basement!

Sean


Name: Olive Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com
Thursday 26th September 1:04 am U.K. Time

_@_v eee hee hee hee! great snailie minds think alike again!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 1:11 am U.K. Time

Hey! how do I turn this damnable thing on!!! there is no power switch!!!

Sean


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 1:20 am U.K. Time

Huh! Leave it to apple to ommit the power switch! not on the back or front, maybe on the missing top of the unit?

Sean


Name: Aaron
Email:
AaronM428@aol.com
Thursday 26th September 1:30 am U.K. Time

Yeah, the transit screws are removed. The motor's not trying at all, like it's getting no juice. :- It's definitely not the record safety sensor on the other one. When I hit record, it tries to eject, which I would assume means that it thinks that the tape in it is copy-protected. I wonder what it would take to frankenstein the two and build a single, working SL-HF750 out of the two... Guess I know what my weekend project is. Too bad all my tools are at home instead of here at the dorms. Thanks guys. Again, any advice appreciated. If all else fails, know any good repair shops around Pittsburgh, PA or Toledo, OH (college and home, respectively).

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 1:35 am U.K. Time

Franny??? Olive??? I'm serious, I can't find the power switch for the MAC! Really, don't know how to turn it on! This is embarrasing, because MACs are supposed to be easy to use! Help! The VT-101 is laughing at me, because I am so stupid.

Sean


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 1:50 am U.K. Time

Allright, I found it, but the display won't do anything now, I think something is wrong...

Sean


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 1:53 am U.K. Time

No, the display light just comes on Amber and it does nothing. Is it the monitor or the MAC???

Sean


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Thursday 26th September 1:53 am U.K. Time

Aaaron, well, I've been known to combine two non-working one's into a good working one more than a few times :) If you do that, and have an extra timer door, I'll offer you $20 plus shipping for it.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 2:22 am U.K. Time

As far as I can see, the MAC is dead, or the monitor is. WHo wants a Macintosh IIci?????? Free to a good home!

Sean


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Thursday 26th September 2:32 am U.K. Time

Sean, there's a few things you should try. Of course, I'm sure you double checked the monitor connections. Also, you should open it up and reseat the memory if it's not soldered on the board and check all other connections in there. One other thing to try is to find the PRAM-reset switch inside the computer. It'll just be a tiny button somewhere on the board, dunno what it'd be labeled. Sometimes the PRAM gets corrupted and causes the no monitor problems on macs. Also, if the PRAM battery is low then it can cause that problem too.

Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Thursday 26th September 2:35 am U.K. Time

Oh, and do you get a chime on power up?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 2:36 am U.K. Time

The MAC seems to wrk, but I think it's the display that's dead! otherwise it'd all go out in the trashcan or the skip down the street!

Sean


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Thursday 26th September 2:36 am U.K. Time

Oy, talk about not saying enough in one message. Here's a map of the board with the reset switch labled: http://www.shobaffum.com/iici/images/innards2.jpg

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 2:44 am U.K. Time

Don't bother. The Classic II works, and there are dozens more where it come from, so I'll abandon the IIci, and take another one. No tone from the IIci but the CLassic II works but seems to be in Japanese or something, so, Brenda gets it by default.. Unless she wants the SE.

Sean


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 2:49 am U.K. Time

Gawd, "Welcome to Macintosh" are words I haven't seen in a Looooooooooong time!!! not since the 8th grade when we had PowerPCs!!!

Sean


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 2:50 am U.K. Time

The Classic II works fine, the SE freezes on bootup. the IIci is a mystery. all free to anyone, Brenda gets first pick, then DasImperator, then Jesse. I can get unlimited Classic IIs.

Sean


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 2:51 am U.K. Time

The SE just decided to work. IN other news, the SLO-1400 wil lbe replaced soon enough. for now it's off my desk.

Sean


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Thursday 26th September 2:56 am U.K. Time

ya, Brenda.. Like a 1 gig or at least an 800 for my bitchy Quadra 660AV. Grrr!! I had wanted to do video capture but NOOO.. Anyways. Sean, try leaving the IIci on for a bit, sometimes the macs with NP-11 PRAM batties take a while remembering who they are. Press reset a few times after a couple minutes if it still hasnt come on. That usally works for my LCII. Have u checked to see if speaker is connectd? Maybe thats why u didnt hear the chime. Yes.. Those poor 750s. A total loss. Olve and I can share them :)

Name: Macintosh Computer
Email:
quadra@apple.com
Thursday 26th September 3:02 am U.K. Time

[ [:)] WELCOME TO HELL!!!]

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Thursday 26th September 3:04 am U.K. Time

o ya, I fergot to mention something. If u download Mac Identifier 3 from http://www.macupdate.com you can trick PPC applications into rubning on your non-PPC (you change its gestalt Info, or 'rename' the computer so if I put "Nixdorf Server" into its Identify box, and I clicked "About This Mac" in apple menu, it would say "Nixdorf Server").. But certain things dont work, fer example you cant trick Quicktime MPEG extension into running because MI 3 is a ctrl panel, and QT is an extension. Extesions load before ctl panel... But it works pretty good!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 3:14 am U.K. Time

Whoever said "Welcome to hell"... I heard a MAC today called "An 'etch-A-Sketch' you don't have to shake"... Anyway, all of you people with the (wahtever it takes, I'm not sure...) to use a MAC, let me now what you want. I have the IIci, the ClassicII, the SE, and access to a virtually unlimited supply of Classic IIs.

Sean


Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th September 3:37 am U.K. Time

Jesse,

I found a drive here that should do fine for you. E-mail me your address, and I'll send it to you for the cost of shipping. It's a Seagate ST52160N 2.17GB SCSI2/3.. let me know if that will do OK for you. :)


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 3:44 am U.K. Time

Brenda, what do you want? I owe you a power cord, a MAC (pick one!) and something else I forget...

Sean


Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th September 4:30 am U.K. Time

Sean:

RMT-148..

Any of those color Macs? If not, I guess just whatever's the closest to working.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 4:48 am U.K. Time

The IIci is color, but needs a monitor. If you can get that, it's yours. I've got a Classic II, and the SE that I think DasImperator wants, so it's his and Jesse, you can have a Classic II or a dozen!

Sean


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk
Thursday 26th September 7:55 am U.K. Time

There's an adapter they make that lets Macintoshes use PC type monitors. Check some of the Mac sites like Sun Remarketing http://www.sunrem.com/ Mac Power http://www.macpowerinc.com/ or Shreve Syatems http://www.shrevesystems.com/ for that and other mac goodies like a Powerbook hard drive adapter that lets you recycle a Powerbook drive to your home compy or to use it to transfer data from one compy to another.

Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th September 8:24 am U.K. Time

Franny,

I think I have a couple of those adaptors here.. they are the same as Sun adaptors, aren't they?

Also, I wonder (if I can find a large enough HDD to fit one) if one of the Macs might be better suited to running my Live365 upstream? I have not had good luck with PC's doing this.. they all seem to run out of processor very quickly when trying to upstream anything more than 16K.. and even then they still have a substantial dropout rate. :(


Name: _@_技
Email:
_@_技
Thursday 26th September 8:29 am U.K. Time

_@_技-sleech of the century!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1382402855

an SL-HF 400 sold for $15.50!!!! And the seller threw in a VHS deck to 'sweeten the deal'!!!

'nicholsonbob' if you're not a dealer you're quite the magnificent lucky bastard!


Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th September 9:18 am U.K. Time

Even if he IS a dealer, he's still "quite a magnificent lucky bastard"..

Name: jochen
Email:
mail@jochen.net
Thursday 26th September 11:50 am U.K. Time

hi all!

i'm desperately looking for a complete threading block assembly front for my sony SL-HF150. Part no. is/was A-6751-267-A...


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk
Thursday 26th September 1:54 pm U.K. Time

I'm not sure what live365 upstream is but if it's some sort of webcam or webcasting ware than Macs would be as good a device as any. Web icon Jennifer Ringley (Jennicam) seems to have done quite well for herself with the Powermac tower unit she's been using over the years. She recently added a nice iMac to her system as well as the Windoze crap her boyfriend insists on using. With a Mac that has the A/Vs built in all you'd need is to plug some old CCD camcorder to use as a webcam.

You could presumably use an HVC cam and an adapter if you don't mind that the tube would likely burn out in short time and that you'd need enough lights to land an aeroplane just to see anything...


Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th September 2:00 pm U.K. Time

Franny,

Live365 is a web radio server. They take your upstream and use their servers to distribute it.


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk
Thursday 26th September 2:03 pm U.K. Time

I checked that 'nicholsonbob' feedback dossier (old 'Ossie' habits die hard) and the current purchases besides the VCR was for a couple bulk lots of tape and a rewinder. A bidder/seller search show only this one purchase. Seems like he might be a legitimate Beta fan.

And to think we overthrew the DDR government we were sick of being spied on...


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk
Thursday 26th September 2:09 pm U.K. Time

I bet even a MacPlus could run that without breaking a silicon diode...

I've seen old musician magazines from the 80s where Mac 128ks were being used for Midi sequencing and stuff like that. 'Win-dow's-nuthin' seems to always blout out it's resources by keeping a small part of practically every one of your programmes on the Start bar open in some vestigal portion. A sleek Maccy will only open the programmes you ask it to and when you quit, it's gone...


Name: snailie @@7
Email:
_@_技
Thursday 26th September 4:25 pm U.K. Time

now pay attention @@7!...

this new device can spot a snaggable beta VCR for miles-_Q_技 [ 技_@_ - well this Beta work Q-snailie...

The name is pod, gastro-pod- _@_技-==~~ v_@_-eee hee hee hee!


Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.com.snailspam
Thursday 26th September 5:04 pm U.K. Time

Aaron...

There is a second trip switch that specifically detects the presence of a loaded cassette. It may be in a different place on the 750. On my 300 it's next door to the record tab detector, offset a little. On Sanyos it's on the left side of the loading well. If the switch pin is bent, or the switch blade themselves no longer make contact on tape loading, or the wiring underneath is crossed or disconnected, your machine won't want to work properly. After that has been rooted out the next likely failure point is in the SYSCON chip(s) or circuits.


Name: Aaron
Email:
AaronM428@aol.com
Thursday 26th September 5:45 pm U.K. Time

DasImperator; Thanks for the tip. I checked the switch itself, and it is not a mechanical failure (the switch is popped up, not stuck down). I'm currently pricing repair shops.

Name: Olive Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com
Thursday 26th September 8:38 pm U.K. Time

_@_技- anybody wanna snagga summa beta tapes and help a charity at the same time?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1384224266

39 prerecorded tapes for $20 start bid. Goes to help disabled children...


Name: Olive Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com
Thursday 26th September 8:42 pm U.K. Time

Looking at some of the closeups of those tapes and I'm wondering if they were recorded on a BI machine because they're all L-750 but a lot of the movies are on two tapes (a lot of part 1 & 2s). Be almost worth bidding to see if that's the case...

Name: Olive Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com
Thursday 26th September 9:15 pm U.K. Time

look alive Andy! You got some customers interested in that SL-HF 450 you're selling...

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a78f28e7/bc/Goofy+Olive+stuff/some+customers.jpg?bcIuvu9AbCubvSJm

The actual item...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1384255136


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Thursday 26th September 9:59 pm U.K. Time

olive,you're right,it looks like a real slugfest!

Name: GARY HADDOW
Email:
GARY@HADDOW2584.FREESERVE.CO.UK
Thursday 26th September 10:16 pm U.K. Time

DOES ANYONE HAPPEN TO HAVE A SONY SL HF100 FOR SPARES I AM LOOKING FOR THE FRONT FLAP WHICH COVERS THE TIMER/BETA HI-FI CONTROLS.CHEERS

Name: chucky
Email:
chuck10961@yahoo.com
Thursday 26th September 11:16 pm U.K. Time

Hey Andy, back to the same tricks? Reference E-Bay auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1371573925 YOU DID A "BUY IT NOW" THEN REFUSED TO PAY????? See Andy's feedback for his lame excuse. Another one of your famous "mistakes"? RE: Beta Informer.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Thursday 26th September 11:21 pm U.K. Time

CHucky, could it be that his payment got lost in the mail? THat happened to me once, notice there is a good feedback, it's not like he was a deadbeat or anything, obviously come agreeable situation was reached or Andy wouldn't have the positive feedback... BTW you're not helping any!

Name: Madness
Email:
madness.elf@verizon.nospam
Thursday 26th September 11:33 pm U.K. Time

Since I'm seeing alot of posts about Macs, I thought I'd ask here 1st: Would anyone be interested in a nearly-complete Quadra 660AV? It was left behind by a departed roommate about 3 years ago and has been collecting dust since. In original box w/ keyboard, mouse, network adaptor and manuals and what looks like a 14.4K modem. Just can't find the OS CD. Someone can take it off my hands for the shipping cost.

Name: Mark
Email:
uklondon@lycos.com
Sunday 10th November 11:29 pm U.K. Time

Hey man it's back. Let's hope it keeps on track this time!

Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Sunday 10th November 11:42 pm U.K. Time

Got that RM-81 Betamovie remote commander that I sleeched out from under MrBetamax. I took the liberty of opening it up to see how to make another from Radio Shack bit and it looks to be fairly easy to do. One thing though, Does anyone know how to read a resistor's 'color code'? The colors from L to R are Red, Yellow, Brown, and Gold. I suppose I could just ask for resistors with those 4 colors in that order but I'm sure I'd get dirty looks from the sales staff...

Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Monday 11th November 12:38 am U.K. Time

I have a stereo Tv (1983) if i connect the Tv with my 1983 Stereo VCR will I get stereo sound? If so will it only come in phono and scart or just aerial connection? BTW it Dolby Stereo.. (UK only)


Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Monday 11th November 1:23 am U.K. Time

According to my SL-HF 300's manual to get stereo sound you have to use the A/V leads. THe RF out is a mono mix of the HiFi channels. Should apply to most other VCRs as well.

Made up a little page for the RM-81 Betamovie commander in case anyone wants to build one for their 'Betamie'.

http://uk.geocities.com/dasimperator/rm81page.html


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 11th November 1:35 am U.K. Time

Nice to see the chat back. Jesse, I don't think I've sent you that drive yet, please e-mail me.

Andy S.: Still waiting to get the time and money together to send my 1000 back for service. Hopefully it will be soon.

Everyone else, welcome back. Take care, and stay well. :)


Name: Stewart
Email:
bel@dsl.pipex.com
Monday 11th November 8:56 am U.K. Time

Hi all, Its Back - Can anyone help with a problem I have on my SLHF950. When I select AV on the VCR the carriage wil not eject play or anything. When I switch to Tuner it all comes to life and works. However I have noticewd that I have no picture through the tuner. The machine plays tapes back fine. any ideas?

Name: Joseph
Email:
josephsb@localnet.com.au
Monday 11th November 12:21 pm U.K. Time

Currently looking for a high quality multistandard hifi stereo Betamax machine.

If you have one for sale please email me on josephsb@localnet.com.au


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Monday 11th November 2:36 pm U.K. Time

To Joseph looking for the HiFi Multistandard Beta;

No such animal existed as far as I know. Sony produced several mono and HiBand multi-standard machines but never brought out a HiFi unit. Other Beta makers like NEC, Sanyo or Toshiba may have produced multi-standard machines but I have yet to hear of one.

Most of Sony's Multi-standard Betas had an 'ME' suffix to their model names and with some exceptions the model number indicated the number of usable TV standards. There were also several European 'PS' units that did PAL and SECAM.


Name: Alan Morton
Email:
adm22@epguides.com
Monday 11th November 7:38 pm U.K. Time

As far as I know no other company ever made a multistandard HiFi Betamx, Sanyo was the only one who actaully made any PAL HiFi edcks otehr than Sony. From my understanding it would be a very hard thing to do since PAL uses a seperate head to record the HiFi while NTSC uses the video heads.

Glad to see the chat page up again!


Name: GEO
Email:
w3ab@w3ab.org
Monday 11th November 8:29 pm U.K. Time

Hi all,

I'm looking for a CCK-4MP cable or just the 14 pin connector.

Can anyone help?

Thanks


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Monday 11th November 9:32 pm U.K. Time

Wow! It's back. I figured the trolls killed it for good. Good to see it back amongst the living. I nderstand most of the guidlines but I think we all know what the ASCII art thing was about... Well I won't look a gift horse in the mouth. Anyone have some dead NP-1s to sell? I know where I can get the revived and since I have an SL-2000 (Hooray for me.) WITH the backpack case!!! (Hooray again) I will need a couple of these. Oh, and does anyone know what the "Heater" switch on the TT-2000 is for? this is not tube equipment!

Thanks! Sean


Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Monday 11th November 9:56 pm U.K. Time

I think the heater was for when you brought the SL-2000 from a shoot outdoors and needed to burn off dew from the temperature change.

Thanks to the fellow who informed me that the resistor for that RM-81 is a 270 ohm resisitor.

While I'm sure everyone's thrilled with the return of Chatpage, let's not go and ignore the Betaphile's Betelore page. http://www.quicktopic.com/16/H/7L8CrFSk7E7

It's a nice page in it's own right...


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Monday 11th November 10:32 pm U.K. Time

Woohoo! It's back :) :) Long live 遝ta! Long live the chat page!

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 11th November 10:58 pm U.K. Time

Hmm, nice to see the ol' Palsite back! Got a few rentals running off ta beta as we speak, so thought we'd drop in.

-- Two Boys & a 遝ta ;)


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Monday 11th November 11:19 pm U.K. Time

eeeeeeeek! What drive, Brenda? I found a PowerPC 6100/66 (which I turned into 6100/66 A/V with a spare vidicard I had). Does anyone have any of the old Sony ECONOQUICK Trinitron tellies? They are so cute! Anyways, glad to see chat-page is back up. I had a question relating to beta.. Must have forgotten!

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 12th November 12:12 am U.K. Time

Jesse:

I was going to send you a SCSI drive a while back, but we kinda lost touch when my e-mail was down for a couple weeks.. :(


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 12th November 2:49 am U.K. Time

Stupid chat page registration. Brenda I don't want the drive anymore.. I am up to my ears in bad Macs. Anyways.. Does anyone know what model the original remote was for the SL-2000mie? Yes, that is what the heater is for. Leave it on for a few hours and see how hot the video block gets. You'll have a living 2000mie.. and if you play a video it is almost like a purring plastic kitty. :) Oh... Anyone know where I can get a remote for a Yamaha DSP-1 Dolby surround encode/decoder?

Name: WAYNE WENDELSDORF
Email:
wcw401@earthlink.net
Tuesday 12th November 3:08 am U.K. Time

I am glad you are back on line.I look forward each day to check on BETA FANS from around the world have to say.

Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Tuesday 12th November 6:01 am U.K. Time

Note for DasImperator: Don't ask Radio Shack for that resistor just yet. If the colors are as you describe, it's 240 ohms and the gold stripe means bang-on 240 (5% max error). Your source of info needs to visit http://webhome.idirect.com/~jadams/electronics/resistor_codes.htm

Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 11:24 am U.K. Time

The SL-2000 used the RMT-311. And yes the color stripes on the RM-81 resistor are in order; RED, YELLOW, BROWN, and GOLD. Using a code guide in the Radio Shack catalog I got about what you said (240 +/-5%) if the first two stripes mean the value, the third stripe the multiplier and the fourth the tolerance. However Rat Shcak doesn't sell 240 ohm resistors, just 220s or 270s and nothing seems to indicate the wattage of resistor needed (any help there?). 1/4 and 1/2 watt resistors are the only ones available in-store - the rest are special orders.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 12th November 12:31 pm U.K. Time

In a remote, I doubt seriously if they would use over a 1/4 watt resistor. 240 ohm is a standard value for 5% and lower tolerances. If you have a parts jobber in your town, they would have it. If not, you could use two 470 ohm resistors in parallel (235 ohms) and be within 5% tolerance.

Hope that helps. :)


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 12th November 12:32 pm U.K. Time

BTW.. 470 ohms 5% = Yellow/Purple/Brown/Gold

Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 1:06 pm U.K. Time

So I'm right in reading the code as: 1st 2 stripes the value, 3rd stripe the multiplier and 4th stripe the tolerance?

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 2:53 pm U.K. Time

" ...1st 2 stripes the value, 3rd stripe the multiplier and 4th stripe the tolerance?"

_@_v - Yeep! that should do it...


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 3:02 pm U.K. Time

To GEO; Which end of the 14 pin connector do you need? I have a couple cables that used to go to (now dead) HVC cameras. I also saved a couple K-connectors from the boards of a couple dud SL-2000s. I'd wanted to use the SL-2000 ends to make a breakout box for the K -connectors but that's probably on the list of things I'll never get around to...

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 3:09 pm U.K. Time

Here's one for Betafans in Oz...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=801158496

SL-F1E/TT-F1 with the Sony black vinyl carry case for the SL-F-1. $50AU. Seller's in Canberra.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Tuesday 12th November 6:59 pm U.K. Time

Keen, Olive. I wonder if that is the soft case for the SL-2005 since it is black. Anyone know? Well in OZ it would not have been the 2005...

Sean


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 7:24 pm U.K. Time

I think that there was a black case available because Sony put out a black SL-F1 (NTSC-Japan version) called the SL-F1B. I've seen it in the catalog section at Betamax TO and it's not an SL-2005 because that was a 'lemonade from lemons' model release only in the US or whereever Zenith used to sell betas. I recall Zenith used to run ads trumpeting how their TVs were better rated in consumer tests than Sony's - you heard in the background a voice (presumably a Akio Morita?) cursing in Japanese or something adding "Zenith beat Sony again!". It must've been an acrimonious parting betwixt Zenith and the old Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo Kabushikakaika. (Sony's original name)

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 7:26 pm U.K. Time

Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo Kabushikakaika....

Try saying THAT three times fast!


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Tuesday 12th November 7:32 pm U.K. Time

I think they abbreviated the name to something like "Totsuken". That was there first name, Tokyo Tsushin Kenkyujo(Totsuken), or "Tokyo Telecommunications Research Institute." Later it changed to Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo (Tokyo Telecommunications Engineering Corporation). That is according to Sony Global History, which can be found HERE: http://www.sony.net/Fun/SH/index.html and is a fascinating read.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 12th November 10:24 pm U.K. Time

___@_** eep? I wonder why they chose Sony as the name if it was that long string of Japanese. So, does anyone know what the original remote for the SL-2000mie was? Someone please make a A/V line cable from the Multi Connect bus... I dont like having to use a special adaptor cable so the TT-2000 can hear things. errf... My Sony Mini-me Trinicon-Tron :P is doing great, after a few minor adjustments to its internal controls. What is SCREEN for... It appeared to be for sharpness, but it's connected with brightness in some way because when I turn it up all the way sharpness goes slightly up but brightness goes way down. Turn it down and sharpness goes sharply down and brightness kicks up. Errp. Anyone found a remote for Yamaha DSP-1?

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Tuesday 12th November 11:42 pm U.K. Time

They changed their name to Sony because they wanted to sell in the USA. Akio Morita figured that more people could remember a short name like Ford so he took the Latin word Sonus (for sound) and played around with it. 'Sony' came out the other end of that thought train (it was also close to the affectionate diminuitive 'sonny'). The first product with the Sony name was the TR-55 transistor radio. At the time a major department store wanted to place a large order (100,000) for the radios but they wanted to put their own name on them Akio decided that in the long run it would be better if Sony was able to build a reputation for quality products. So he turned down the offer, which had many on his board screaming...

Akio always regarded it as the best business decision he'd ever made....


Name: A. Choate
Email:
betaphile@yahoo.com
Wednesday 13th November 12:33 am U.K. Time

I like the terms agreement but I think everybody allready had a chance to simmer down now. Now back to business I'm glad the page shut down for a bit I think it was the magor reason for my success it's been five years since the original on Inside The Web I haven't been able to duplicate the success of that site untill now thanks. I'm glad this site is back now mayby I'll get that U.K. traffic I was looking for. The extended links page is finished I divided it into three sub catagories so you don't have to scroll down so far. I'm still looking for links if you have any please e-mail them to me.

Name: Simon Newbery
Email:
s.newbery@ntlworld.com
Wednesday 13th November 12:46 am U.K. Time

Good to see this forum busy again. I have a C9 which has been repaired.. well nearly anyway. The main problem is that when in play mode, the tape is note being pulled into the take up reel. Similary when in rewind mode is starts but is winding to slowly until the system realises something is wrong and then stops rewinding.

To my mind I think its the motor powering the take up reel, but looking at the fault finding guide there is information on the C20/30/40 HF100 which talks about a bearing wearing out - but does this also apply to the C9? Or is this machine difference with its dual motors.

Any help much appreciated. thanks


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Wednesday 13th November 2:38 am U.K. Time

Sounds like an idler or belt problem...common mechanical failiure in these old VCRs.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Wednesday 13th November 3:26 am U.K. Time

Well the first thingis...

the SL-C9 (or SL-2500 in the US) doesn't have an idler or any tape drive belts whatsoever. The only belt is running off the ejector drive. A pssible problem is that the upper half of the video drum needs to be sanded with a very fine grit sandpaper. Over the years the drum gets too smooth and on rewind the tape overruns and you get a 'fishslapping' effect. In extreme cases it can barely rewind. The person who suggested I do this mentioned that you need to remove the upper drum to do the sanding in oder to protect the head. However I feel that removing the drum risks loosing the proper alignment of the head when you try to put it back on. Also on my SL-2000 you really can't get at the lug nuts that tie down the upper drum, so I just remove the bits of plastic attached to the uper drum and the stop guides for the loading ring to sand the drum in place manually. If you're reasonably careful you won't kill the heads.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Wednesday 13th November 3:39 am U.K. Time

The thing to remember is not to go nuts sanding. Just a little roughinh up - you don't want to dig into the metal with it. And you want to sand in the direction of tape travel not across...

This is not for the faint of heart but it seems to work on the SL-2000 I have.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.com
Wednesday 13th November 4:14 am U.K. Time

Well DasImperator knows how to dissasemble an SL-2000, it involves a large magnet but you'd better ask him since as far as I know large magnets and video gear do not mix well. I wonder if it is pushing the ASCII art rule if one small snail showed up in the same capacity as a text smile. I suppose what they mean is they don't want whole posts taken up with huge familys of snails. __@_oo

(Snail anticipating getting hit by car) But any more is pushing it.

Sean


Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Wednesday 13th November 8:39 am U.K. Time

Olive, how fine a sandpaper did you use?? IIRC you should use the finest Emory cloth possible to cure the "Video Sticktion"

Glad to see the page up and running again.

Later. Pepse.


Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Wednesday 13th November 10:32 am U.K. Time

To DasImperator: Physical size of a resistor is the best indicator of wattage. If it looks the same size in the store it is the same rating. If you put two 470 ohms in parallel as suggested then each could be half the power rating. BTW 10% or 20% tolerance resistors are cheaper yet the manufacturer paid extra for an unusual resistance value with 5% tolerance. That likely means its exact value affects its behavior (or they had too many of those left over from another project).

Jesse, SCREEN is a terminology from old vacuum tubes. In higher quality amplifier circuits a screen was placed between the tube's input grid and its output anode, and given a mild + bias voltage to achieve greater linearity. Your tube-type camera has an adjustable screen voltage to allow you to trade perfect linearity for a decent looking picture. Crank too far down and the pix goes dark (cutoff), but too far up and the image washes out (avalanche voltage). Just set it somewhere in between. Even with automatic gain control the sweet spot will be different for each scene; that's why the knob is there.


Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Wednesday 13th November 11:26 am U.K. Time

The part about dissassembling an SL-2000 with a magnet refers to getting at the Halle sensor under the video head - like if you have a conductivity problem and need to clean the glue on it. There's very little 'finger room' to pluck out the large disc magnet cover ing the sensor and coil assembly. My solution was to attach a second strong disc magnet to build up enough to be able to pull it out.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Wednesday 13th November 5:17 pm U.K. Time

Yeah 100 grit paper or finer is what you'd want to use. An emory cloth might do as well if you can control that better. Sandpaper you can cut or tear to fit. Work a small area and rotate the heads away from where you're working.

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Wednesday 13th November 10:01 pm U.K. Time

Taking out the upper drum (not the whole drum unit) should not affect the drum alignment as there is no adjustment needed for this part but to screw it back firmly. This also goes for the head disc for most cases.

Therefore, I think it would be much less risky to break the heads (or any other part) by pulling the upper drum out of the deck before sanding it. Just be real careful when pulling it out not to tilt it so it would touch the heads.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yahoo.nospam.com
Wednesday 13th November 10:56 pm U.K. Time

The problem with removing the upper head drum is - in the SL-2000 at least - getting at the hex nut that loosens the upper drum. The Sl-2000 doesn't leave a lot of clearance room and it's pretty well buried. I've had pretty good success just removing the plastic guide pin assemblies on and to the upper left of the drum and sanding 'in situ'. You do have to more careful to clean up any residue of course, but you don't have to worry about misaligning the head drum on reassembly. And since removing and replacing the head drum could just as easily KO the heads you're just as safe letting a sleeping drum lie - so to speak...

By the way this head-drum sanding thing is most likey only applicable to the Betas that employed twin Halle motors for the reel drives. SL-200(0-1-5)/SL-F1 SL-C9/2500 and SL-2700/SL-HF 77

In every mode both motors spin in opposing directions to provide back tension. On an overly smooth head drum the back tension isn't enough so the tape jerks along - flapping the bit of mechanism holding one of the tape end sensors (the fishtail-slapping sound). Other machines that used a pendulum idler used mechanical action for back tension that worked a bit better and you didn't get that 'fish-slap' effect - at least in nthe machines I've had.


Name: CapnBeta
Email:
capnbeta@yahoo.com
Thursday 14th November 2:47 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1583129164

Ed-Beta Demo tape for you lucky people who have an Ed-Betamax!


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 14th November 2:15 pm U.K. Time

Anyone else been getting spam from oddzzchannel03@ oddzz.com? When are they gonna realize that 'everybody' knows that 99.99999999999% of unsolicited e-mail offerings are a scam of one sort or another?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 14th November 3:12 pm U.K. Time

Probably they never will. Don't expect too much from people who do that. If they haven't figured it out now they never will.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 14th November 8:50 pm U.K. Time

I've got something here, a recordable video disk player. That means it's a player. I'll trade it for any reasonable offer. it works, no DOA, I had it working perfectly. I have one so I don't need two.

Sean


Name: Alan Barnett
Email:
alan@palsite.org
Thursday 14th November 9:19 pm U.K. Time

Apologies for the broken images etc on the site at the present time. The web server suffered an aoutage today and we are working to restore the site.

Name: Will
Email:
lmtimage76@hotmail.com
Thursday 14th November 9:44 pm U.K. Time

Hello everyone! Glad to see this page back! My HF750 recently ran into a problem. For some reason all of the left channel LEDs just stay on no matter what the position of the slider level. The right operates as normal. The left channel audio is adjustable but the LEDs just stay all the way on. I've removed the front face panel and have disconnected the board for now until I figure out the problem. I suspect it's one of the "blob shaped" ICs on the LED board itself that is at fault but I don't have a part number or the service manual for this deck. I was wondering if anyone out there has had a similar problem with the HF750 or 950 who could lend some advise. Thanks!

Name: A. Choate
Email:
betaphile@yahoo.com
Thursday 14th November 10:58 pm U.K. Time

Will the first thing I would suspect is the potentiometer that controls the input levels in the first place if that broke it would cause those symptoms I suggest you measure the resitance of both potentiometers with a multimeter and see if there is a difference. Good Luck A. Choate

P.S. I had a similar problem with a TV antennuator it wouldn't adjust correctly


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Friday 15th November 3:00 am U.K. Time

Bzzzzzzzztttt!! Phew!! Glad I was able to do a bit of poking around my Sony Trinicon-tron without killing myself (or it). I was asking about SCREEN not because of the camera, the HVC-2200 is perfect. I meant the 1976 Sony TV I have...

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Friday 15th November 6:23 am U.K. Time

I always thought the "direct-drive" units were superior, at least mechanically, than those with a clutch assembly, as I thought they'd be able to adjust back tension on the fly with regard to the position of the tape and the overall wear of the transport. Perhaps I was wrong ?

Roughing the drum may also be necessary on the "clutch" units. I once experienced tape jitter and slow rewind on a SL-HFR70. Then I did not sand the upper drum but simply replaced it and the problems were fixed.

An expert also suggested I should have all the posts turned around by 180 degrees as they might have the same level of wear and smoothness as the drum. I did not do that by fear of completely misaligning the tape path.


Name: cb[doc]judd
Email:
colinjudd@primus.com.au
Friday 15th November 10:47 am U.K. Time

Great to see the site back,most enjoyable too

Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Friday 15th November 7:51 pm U.K. Time

If there's one thing I can't emphasise enough it's this...

UPS sucks! UPS's mother sucks! UPS's sister would've sucked but I didn't have a bus token and a food stamp!

Got my NECcd-amie today...

The 'nose' of the camera was completely broken off! Or at least the plastic stuff. The battery door? Sheared off. The body shell? split on both sides. The handle? Which I specifically asked the guy shipping to leave off the camera so it wouldn't get busted? Do I really have to tell you? Damn UPS guys musta went buck wild on the poor thing...

All is not lost though. It does actually work and tracks OK and I had some shell parts from a Sony Betamie 550. Oh, and the RM-81 I got does work on this li'l puppy...

Damned UPS the Unbelievable Package Smashers ...


Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Friday 15th November 7:56 pm U.K. Time

and the two NEC NP-11s seem to still be good...

By the way I think this was a Japanese domestic Betamie. Why?

The time is 24hr military style and the dateis the European Year/Month/Day style.

Also most of the stickers on this were in printed in Japanese. I suspect that Japanese Betamies were internally at least built better (let the Geijin Americans take our rejects) than US models. This one seems to run fairly well despite the creaming by UPS (oops!)...

cool-o-san!


Name: Stewart
Email:
bel@dsl.pipex.com
Friday 15th November 8:34 pm U.K. Time

Hi all, I am selling my Betamax VCR collection on ebay. Take a look if you like.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=802179803&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 15th November 9:26 pm U.K. Time

Happy Friday folks! Came home w/ yet another beta deck from a flea market. This is a Sanyo VCR7250 (first Sanyo I've ever had!) superbeta/hifi. Works but it looks like it needs belts and loading rubbers. I know that Sanyos don't lace the tape until play or record is hit. So sometimes, it'll load fine; others, it'll be sluggish or not-all-all, give up, and spit the cassette back out. Sometimes I can even get it load by nudging the wheels w/ the cover off. I need a source for a complete belt/wheel kit. Anyone?

Name: DasImperator
Email:
DasImperator@aol.nospam.com
Friday 15th November 11:20 pm U.K. Time

http://www.iglou.com/studiosound/index.htm#video

sells full and partial belt and 'tune up kits' for Sanyo Beta VCRs


Name: E Bodner
Email:
ebodner@hotmail.com
Friday 15th November 11:52 pm U.K. Time

Is there a place where I can rent a beta videocassette player in the PA/NJ/NY area?

Thanks -


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Saturday 16th November 2:39 am U.K. Time

Stewart:

Too bad you will only sell those locally, I would have been very interested in one or two of them.. especially the ones with the standard VU meters on them. You wouldn't reconsider and mail one to a Yank, would you? :)

Take care, and stay well.


Name: Carlos
Email:
bedliners@yahoo.com
Saturday 16th November 2:40 am U.K. Time

hi: i'm looking to purchase a betamax vcr in good working condition. please reply: bedliners@yahoo.com

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Saturday 16th November 2:40 am U.K. Time

And yes, I have PAL facilities here. :)

Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Saturday 16th November 3:07 am U.K. Time

Jesse, "Screen" on a TV works on the same principle. Too high will wash out, too low will blacken the darker tones. Trouble is there are three inputs (red, blue, green) and they must be in balance or B&W sources could become slightly magenta or cyan. Now that you twirled a few knobs, it might be worth a visit to the public library. If it's like the one in our town, they have the latest NY Times Best Fiction title but they are about 10 years behind on most electronic subjects so will still have info on repair and adjustment of Trinitrons (and Betamaxes!).

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 16th November 3:11 am U.K. Time

To E Bodner;

I think that finding anyone still renting out VCRs (who would bother when they're like 20 bucks at walmart?) would have long gotten rid of any Beta stock.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 16th November 2:02 pm U.K. Time

grrrrrrr... damned squall-mart. Just think of how cheap and inferior betas would be today if the format had lived. Sony would have tried to look for all sorts of ways to make them $19,99 at our "Always-Low-Prices" fiend.. I mean friend.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 16th November 7:14 pm U.K. Time

Oh god, I could just picture Wally World being full of little 13"-wide PLASTIC center-loading betas for 100 bucks or less. Just replace the VHS well w/ a beta one.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 16th November 7:43 pm U.K. Time

I wonder how difficult that would be, really, to mass-produce betamax VCRs again. Someone should contact say, Sony, to see if they could swap the drum and such in a modern VHS machine to make it be a betamax deck. It may cost twice as much as a VHS but it would be worth it, for me at least.

Sean


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 17th November 12:42 am U.K. Time

Considering that the Betamovie shows that Beta can work with the M-load that VHS uses, it would likely be a matter of using a Beta head and relocating the ACE heads. And a Beta sized carraige as well as control chips for the Beta format. Anyone want a 300 Beta VTR?

Name: A. Choate
Email:
betaphile@yahoo.com
Sunday 17th November 3:14 am U.K. Time

If the 470 resistor is for a remote conrol you could use any wattage a battery can only give miliamps I should see if I have that resistor. A. Choate

Name: Jay
Email:
jrock1977@earthlink.net
Sunday 17th November 1:43 pm U.K. Time

I just picked up an sl-100 superbeta yesterday for $2.00. It was in the broken/no warrenty pile at the local goodwill, but opening it up revealed a slightly siezed gear. One minute of work and it works like new. It looks like it came from a local video rental shop, and wasn't used much, as the heads are in great shape. Although the sound isn't as good as from my sanyo 7200, this deck will have to replace it as the video is twice as sharp. Just goes to show you, saving change can by you home video equipment if you look hard enough. Still using beta in Vermont. -Jay

Name: Rococ
Email:
rococo64@hotmail.com
Sunday 17th November 4:23 pm U.K. Time

Is there any Betamax (pal system) that plays Betamax (ntsc) tapes? And if it exists, How or where can I buy one? thanx

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 17th November 5:08 pm U.K. Time

Yeah, therewere multisystem betamax machines that play back several types of tapes, but I am pretty sure that they need a multisystem monitor. Look for them on Ebay.

Sean


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 17th November 5:31 pm U.K. Time

There were several multisystem Betass. The ones you want have an ME suffix, but don't bother with the SL-T7ME or SL-T9ME. The NTSC they output is NTSC 4.43 which is not what the North Americans use. You want a machine that can run NTSC 3.58. Ask Brenda she knows all about this stuff.. and she has a multisystem Beta!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 17th November 6:03 pm U.K. Time

eeeeeeeeeeee... gross centre loading beta.. And then those stupid all-in-one TV/VCR combos! See, aren't we glad we have our rock solid 80s betas!

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 17th November 6:49 pm U.K. Time

Side note: I've seen several of these 100-lots of Sony L-830's on eBay over the past few weeks. I'm thinkim', "gee, no wonder L-830's are so hard to find; this dude's been hoardin' 'em all up!" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1582883920

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 17th November 7:23 pm U.K. Time

Most TV/VCR combos are hard to repair at best. I always advise people away from them. If someone started beta again, it would have to stay out of those things! Beta has enough repair issues that we don't need to stick it in something that is inherantly inferior! Probably the only reason people buy those is the same reason for VHS-C, i.e. they are too stupid to do the simplest of color-coded hookups.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 17th November 7:35 pm U.K. Time

I wouldn't mind a Beta version of the Video8 'Watchman' Sony (used to?) put out.

Just imagine an SL-F1(SL-2000) with built-in tuner and a flip-up LCD screen!


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 17th November 8:24 pm U.K. Time

Has anyone seen the Cool LCD screen that goes on the back of a Sony PLaystation? I wonder how hard it would be to modify that to go on a 2000/F1. That would be something. Sony made something like that for homeland consumption, though.

http://www.betamax.to/w/archive/SL-MV1.shtml

That's what we need!!!


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 17th November 9:18 pm U.K. Time

I've seen that portable SL-MV1 beta TV/VCR thing before but Betamax To recently modified their site so that you couldn't directly acess pages anymore. Greedy little nippers...

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 17th November 9:21 pm U.K. Time

Click the top link under "index" , and it's under HFR & misc. the SL-MV1.

Name: Gary Haddow
Email:
Gary@haddow2584.freeserve.co.uk
Sunday 17th November 9:47 pm U.K. Time

does anyone have instruction manual for the C9', i have just purchased one from a video engineer .I am also looking for a sony HF100 for spares.Hope someone can help .Cheers.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Monday 18th November 1:27 am U.K. Time

Aww krickey! I see JSparkin is selling off some of his tasty Aussie betas...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=802619375

SL-C40 stereo $125 Aussiebux

I imagine shippings a peach to the UK though...


Name: Steve Carmick
Email:
carmick@starband.net
Monday 18th November 3:26 am U.K. Time

I don't know if I'm in the right place, but here goes: I own a Sanyo "Betacord" VCR, together with about 300 Beta movies that I bought from a local video rental place. Does anybody know where I can buy one of those cassettes head cleaner devices for my Beta? If not, where can I send it to be cleaned? The local VCR repair guys won"t touch it. Thanks to anybody who can help. Steve Carmick

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 18th November 3:49 am U.K. Time

Looks like MrBetamax's secret selling ID has been revealed...

Just listed this SL-HF 750 remote for $125 start/ $145 BIN under the ID lled133@aol.com (who very seldom actually bids for anything)...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=802531663

'Snailed' by MrBetamax a couple weeks ago (who very seldom ever sells anything)...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1395506966


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 18th November 3:56 am U.K. Time

The general consensus is that tape type head cleaners are really bad for video head and that you should use a foam padded swab (not cotton) dipped in alcohol to clean heads. Otherwise E-bay has tape cleaner cassettes listed amongst their Beta goodies. Use at your own risk as ta lot are probably around15/20 years old.

If you have a beta tape that's no longer anygood/eaten by the machine you can go out and buy a VHS head cleaner tape, break it open and respool it onto the beta reels. Or look to broadcast supply places that sell Betacam head cleaning tapes. Good place to get rewinders too.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 18th November 4:18 am U.K. Time

If you have lots of space, "rewinder" is a good use for an older VCR that has no useful heads or some problem with its video path. the Sanyos would probably be good for this since they don't thread the tape until it is to be played, so a little bit of wear on the tape is saved.

Sean


Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Monday 18th November 7:58 am U.K. Time

You are wrong about your lled/mrbetamax theory. Furthermore, if I recall correctly, it was this same petty busybody routine of yours and others that led to this board getting shut down recently.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Monday 18th November 9:06 pm U.K. Time

Disclosure of E-bay dealers with 'secret' buying/selling identities would seem to be legetimate information for a prospective user of E-bay (to acquire Betas) to know. If enough people knew enough to avoid paying 'dealer prices' the better. It's hard enough to be decenmt Beta equipment without competing with well funded speculators who see Betas as merely another 'collector's item' to be exploited for all they're money extraction ability. Big business routinely collects and trade even the most personal of information about us. It's more than fair that we should turn the table on them.

Besides it's not amongst the 'no nos' in the chatpage guidelines...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 18th November 9:17 pm U.K. Time

Too true Olive. I agree, Iam not one to hold up bussiness practices but I believe that everyone should also have a fair shot to take similar pokes at the company. Furthermore, it's good that there are guidelines, I suppose that we must take the good with the bad, it makes it clear when people are actually doing something repremabdable or if someone has just decided he doesn't like the people on this page...

In other news, I got the hardshell case for the SL-2000. Since I've seen a few up on Ebay I thought that some info about it would be appreciated in case anyone is considering one. They are very well made, and rainproofed. The cables even exit through gaskets. It is difficult, however to use an adapter to fit a non-K-plug camera to it. I'm not sure that is by design or just happened that way. Also, it really minimizes the weight and would probably be a good choice for anyone with a back problem for whom have the recorder hang off of just one shoulder would be uncomfortable. it has a belt strap, too.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Monday 18th November 11:00 pm U.K. Time

I've got the 'Fotima' backpack carrier for my SL-2000. Has holes to let you clip on the Sony straps and straps to let you backpack it. I would imagine one of the disadvantages to the shell carrier is that you can't work the controls once closed. Isn't it (the shell carrier) also supposed to be usable for underwater videography? Not that anyone would want to risk trying...

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 18th November 11:07 pm U.K. Time

I'm not sure, Olive, it looks pretty watertight but not perfectly so. I think there was a seperate assembly for such purposes, and I'm sure Franny can show you pictures of it. I personally wouldn't try it. it sure beat a trash bag in the rain, however. I think you could also mount some kind of "Steadycam" affair onto it through two holes on the right upper corner.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Monday 18th November 11:11 pm U.K. Time

THis is so atypical of Sanyo design I was wondering if it might be a Sony or other OEM...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1940070630

Sanyo 'VCR3'

Even Ray Glasser only knew it as "The Sanyo Betacord"...


Name: Dave A.
Email:
avideo@earthlink.net
Monday 18th November 11:40 pm U.K. Time

Hi All! - Really glad to see this page up and running again. A few days ago, a client of mine gave me an old Sanyo 4000 top loading Beta VCR and a box of Beta tapes. Apparently, her family was the original owner of this machine. I have been checking this unit out for correct operation. What I especially like, is that unlike most older Beta machines this one is in really nice condition. All doors and panels are in place,, the clock has a clear, bright blue display, and all buttons and knobs seem to work correctly. And except for a few minor scuff marks; the entire case is in excellent shape. So far I've played some Beta tapes recorded on other machines; and except for adjusting the tracking - the picture and audio are surprisingly good. So this "oldie" is deffinately not of the "junker" variety.

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Monday 18th November 11:48 pm U.K. Time

That Sanyo almost looks like an NEC beta machine. I had an NEC Hifi machine that had a similar drop-down control section like the one shown in the picture.

Obviously, this interpretation is open to interpretation.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 19th November 1:15 am U.K. Time

Hey, can I use an L-750 in sn SLO-340? I remember hearing of trouble in decks not equipped for B-III...

Sean


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 19th November 1:18 am U.K. Time

On that VCR-3...

note that Sony style see-thru window over the cassette well and the better-than-Sanyo's usual construction in the back (large heat sink grill). Looks almost like it's an all-metal construction. Sanyo liked to make their Betas with as much plastic as practicable...


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 19th November 1:20 am U.K. Time

The only tapes with 'issues' with BI are the L-830 and L-1000 tapes. L-750s should be usable on the SLO-340.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 19th November 1:35 am U.K. Time

WEll then mine has other issues. A friend of mine can help, though. probably just minor problems, however.

Sean


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 19th November 1:53 am U.K. Time

Your SLO-340 needs tharapy? How sad...

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 19th November 2:23 am U.K. Time

Yes, but I am pretty sure it is just the CAP FREE speed needing adjustment. You know, rhythmic pulses in the picture, poor interchange... But I got a battery that works!

Sean


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 19th November 2:45 am U.K. Time

Nothing like a 'Texas Walkman' is there....

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 19th November 2:49 am U.K. Time

Not at all. I wonder if I would pass as as Snail with the Betamax Backpack on...

Sean


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 19th November 8:03 am U.K. Time

Here's another Beta rarity...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1940178295

'General' brand multisystem Beta VCR that found it's way to Nebraska. Looks like an old Toshiba OEM.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 19th November 8:10 am U.K. Time

Another interesting E-beta find...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1940148178

SLP-400R SuperBeta player-only VCP


Name: Will
Email:
lmtimage76@hotmail.com
Tuesday 19th November 5:04 pm U.K. Time

re: Left channel LEDs all the way on (HF750). A. Choate, thanks for the tip. I tried that and those slider pots are working properly. I've got another beta that just developed a weird problem. When you push play it goes into Fast forward and eats the tape. I have to power off to get it to stop. Has anyone out there had this problem with theirs?

Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Tuesday 19th November 8:39 pm U.K. Time

I will be going to canada again. will they have flea markets in the winter season? :D

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 19th November 11:18 pm U.K. Time

Olive: What are the "issues" associated w/ using L-830's on 逫(s)? I notice some of the Sony L-830 cases have an "N/A" under it, but I've used them that way w/o any problems (on the HF750 or 1000). They're good for roughly 1h 40m. Any length greater I've had to roll myself, but same as above.

2nd: That "General" multi beta looks kinda weird. The only close note I see is that it requires a PAL TV. I could prolly use it since mine's multisync (NTSC/PAL), but don't have any foreign cassettes.


Name: A. Choate
Email:
betaphile@yahoo.com
Wednesday 20th November 12:16 am U.K. Time

I have several sources for Beta stuff on my webpage links but you have to use the main address http://uk.geocities.com/betaphile/BetaLoreII.html divided into three catagories ,Beta webpages,Beta resources,and Video history can find what you're looking for there. If there is anything you would like to add/see e-mail me. A. Choate

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 20th November 12:36 am U.K. Time

Well I could use any VCR since my video card in my PC can accept any TV standard accept maybe the old English 405-line system but you don't see that around often. But again, I don't have any tapes to make it worth my time. I did bid (And get thompped) on an EDW-30F but that VCR usually goes for way more than it is worth, IMHO.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 20th November 1:35 am U.K. Time

L-830s and L-1000s are considered too thin to be safe to use on the faster B-I speed. Supposedly more liable to stretching or breaking.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 20th November 1:39 am U.K. Time

As far as I understand it, Olive, the L-830 is safe for the BIs of the 750, the Turbocharged 900, the 1000 and the 2100 as well as the BMC-1000K, but not the old B-I speed machines that had no B-III capacity. The L-1000 is supposedly "Unsafe at any Speed" (But I hate ralph naded, I just had to make that joke).

Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Wednesday 20th November 5:11 am U.K. Time

Deep, Deep Sigh Dept.:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1970719188


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 20th November 5:16 am U.K. Time

Stupididty has reached the greatest hight since mass stupidity struck the entire population and made 90% of them choose VHS!

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Wednesday 20th November 1:23 pm U.K. Time

Awright.... :)

Who remembers the 遝ta I VCR that I won about two months ago on fleabay?? Well, I finally got it today.. :) It's an SLO-323, not a model number I was familiar with. Has linear stereo sound, variable speed playback, and freeze frame that's next to perfect. I tried one of my 1s tapes in it to start with, but needless to say, it was severely overdriven, and out of band. So, I got my DVD player, hooked it up to the machine, popped in a tape, and did a test recording.. THIS THING IS FAN-DAMN-TASTIC!! I cannot tell the tape from the DVD on this machine, even at standard 1 speed... (course, the sound is nowhere near as good as a 遝ta Hi-Fi deck).. I'm a genuinely happy camper.. :) This is great for recording old TV shows and such, and I can even make Olive a 1 linear stereo tape of Videodrome.. (someday I hope to get my 1000 recording again..)

*doing the Snoopy dance*


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Wednesday 20th November 1:24 pm U.K. Time

BTW... anyone got a (wire) remote for one of these things???

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 20th November 2:10 pm U.K. Time

What's wrong with your 1000? Anyway, I have a remote that might work, but since it doesn't work with my SLO-1400 I wouldn't bet on it, I'm pretty sure it's for a U-matic. And I need it for a Umatic. Anyway, look on Ebay for it.

Sean


Name: Ken House
Email:
toll121@bellsouth.net
Wednesday 20th November 7:00 pm U.K. Time

Need Help! I have a Sony SL-HF400 which seems to be working properly with tape handling, but not getting any video output other than a wavey pattern. There are no longer any repair shops in this area that will attempt to work on a beta vcr so I'm making an attempt to fix it myself. I have quite a few tapes to convert to the vhs format even though I like the bta quality.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 20th November 8:52 pm U.K. Time

Did you clean the heads? Are you sure the tapes are good? do you get audio? LInear or stereo audio? And, did you adjust the tracing? Try all that first.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Thursday 21st November 2:31 am U.K. Time

Who remembers that CCD-TRV87 I won about six weeks ago on Ebay? Well that one arrived today. It was new in box as advertised, and came with an external battery charger and 2X telephoto adaptor. :)

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 21st November 5:51 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1940307004

Have we ever seen one of these before? I think not! it's pretty obvious what the base chassis is, but why they made it a top loader is beyond me!!! WEll, it was Zenith who had one machine fixed at B-III although it had been capable of BII recordings!

Sean


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 21st November 6:31 am U.K. Time

I think I'd posted about one of them sometime last year....

I think....

Might be a posting in the Betamax Videographer or some other chatpage. Funny you never see the Sony OEM version up for bid (SL-8500).


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 21st November 4:49 pm U.K. Time

Does anyone know why it was made a top-loader? To be inexpensive?

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 21st November 5:08 pm U.K. Time

Perhaps that was a transitional model - Sony had yet to come up with a frontload design or this was a toploader design that Sony then modified to be a front loader. Or perhaps it's a reverse of the VPR-9800 story in that Sony had a load of unsold SL-8500 so they offered them to Zenith.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 21st November 5:13 pm U.K. Time

Ray Glasser's Betapage has been moved!

It's now at... http://www.betainfoguide.com/index.html


Name: Sergio
Email:
sergio_betamax@yahoo.co.jp
Friday 22nd November 3:54 pm U.K. Time

Sono italiano. Provate a vedere il sito di Sony Betamax giapponese: http://www.betamax.to in cui tutti i cataloghi, posters, links e l'assistenza riparazione. E' bellissimo sito giapponese del mondo! Ho possesso 2 videoregistratori Sony Betamax SL-C33E e Beta Hi-Fi SL-HF100EC. Ciao a tutti.

Name: John
Email:
john@ifeelgood.co.uk
Friday 22nd November 6:40 pm U.K. Time

Can anyone help me? I am looking to purchase a Betamax player for UK betamax tapes - it's such a shame that all my early 80's tapes are gathering dust in the loft. Hope someone can help me.

John


Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Friday 22nd November 10:17 pm U.K. Time

I prefer some top loaders rather than front as front loaders tears the tape ribbon when the ribbon is caught in the vcr.. With top loaders sometimes it lifts off...

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 22nd November 10:22 pm U.K. Time

Hey guys! I gotta question for ya. I'm dismayed to notice that the RatShack discontinued those VHS/Beta relabelling kits (44-1103)! I went to all the local stores a bit back and bought up all they had left. Now I need a ton more and can't find any. Anyone know of a place (online?) that sells a similar item? They were good for a load of Sony K-series betacams (look like ordinary "old-style" betamax tapes) I used 'em on; now I got a hoard of 3M betacams coming in the same style. I've bought labels from places like http://www.professionallabel.com for the 1/3-window tapes (like the Sony "G's"). But need regular-sized face labels.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Friday 22nd November 10:41 pm U.K. Time

Have you tried to navigate Radio Shack's website to find them? If you have the R/S part number, you should be able to enter that into the search box and find them.

www.radioshack.com


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Friday 22nd November 10:47 pm U.K. Time

____@_*v* No wonder I can't find any at my local Rat Shack....

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 23rd November 12:32 am U.K. Time

No more Shack labels? Damn! I was starting to get low...

Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Saturday 23rd November 9:21 am U.K. Time

Avery makes labels for a living, not a side item. Try this link for starters. These fit the other format, but with a bit of digging maybe they have another product just right for the best format.

http://www.avery.com/products/add_to_cart.jsp?upc=7278205199&catalog_code=WEB01


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 24th November 12:11 am U.K. Time

Anyone following the saga of my SLO-340 will be glad to hear that it is fine, but rather its camera is not well. The AVC-3450 seems to produce a white ring around the image and it won't come into focus. I have other cameras, however.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 24th November 2:21 am U.K. Time

Got it to work by taking the handle off the bad camera and putting it on the good one. Had another AVC-3450.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 24th November 7:51 am U.K. Time

Yeah, bummer on the labels. The "RatShack Online" comes up w/ squat when you search for "44-1103." A call to the local store ("You've Got questions; We've Got Phone-Breathing") and the guy finally tells me they killed 'em! GAAH!!

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Sunday 24th November 10:10 am U.K. Time

Maybe try floppy disk labels??

Name: epwg1
Email:
epwg1@yahoo.co.uk
Sunday 24th November 5:47 pm U.K. Time

Hi All,

I want to capture some old beta videos and transfer then to VCD. It looks like I can use my Hauppauge TV card to capture the video and then transfer the resultant file via Nero to CD.

Problem is the software with the card is awful, is there any better ( functionality wise and free) software I can use to capture the video??

Thanks in advance.

bill


Name: Jay
Email:
jrock1977@earthlink.net
Sunday 24th November 6:08 pm U.K. Time

Bill, You want to go to http://www.vcdhelp.com. This page will tell you everything you need to know. I personally use VirtualDub to capture and TmpegEnc to create a VCD compliant mpeg. Then Nero to burn. That page has tutorials and how-to's, and is great. I make a ton of VCD's complete with menus and everything, and that page is were I started.

- Jay


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 24th November 7:03 pm U.K. Time

I tend to agree. I've made VCDs & SVCDs from beta cassettes for friends who *didn't* want VHS. And VCD Help was where I went to, also. Even got all FREE software to do it. You'll need to hook your beta deck up to your TV card's and soundcard's repective inputs. Then dupe to your hard disk in real time (V-Dub works). Encoding the mpeg can take a lot of time (hours!), however, depending on how fast your PC is.

2nd: Brenda's idea of 3" floppy labels doesn't sound like a bad idea for beta face's. And the RatShack does a have a good set to use. Now just need a good substitute for the spine labels and we're all set!


Name: Roderick
Email:
roderick@stagesafety.com
Sunday 24th November 8:37 pm U.K. Time

I bought that SL-F1 that was for sale on Ebay and just received it. It is in good condition with a good picture but the audio is terrible, it has a very loud 50hz buzz and very low level. It is only during tape playback, when using the tuner it is fine. My initial though was to clean the audio heads but that had little effect. Any other ideas?

And how do you get to the heads? Any instructions how to open this machine?

Roderick


Name: Gary Haddow
Email:
Gary@haddow2584.freeserve.co.uk
Sunday 24th November 9:47 pm U.K. Time

Does anyone have instruction manual for the classic C9 i have just bought one.I am also looking for a HF100 for spares.Hope someone can help.Cheers!

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Monday 25th November 3:18 am U.K. Time

About that SL-F1 with audio problems. There are playback level and bias pots on the side PC board (at least that's where they are in the SL-2000). Given you know the exact frequency of the noise coming out of it you should probably be able to find the right settings.

Opening the SL-2000/F1 is just a matter of removing the two screws on the back (the side where the RF port is) and sliding it out, up and away (you'll have to unplug the the connection to the battery bin). You should also remove the tape carraige lid so you can better access the audio heads. You may have to adjust the audio head azimuth and or height as well.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 25th November 3:32 am U.K. Time

Yes, remove the basket lid before tkaing the case off. I've found that a lot of VCR cases, especially on portables, need lots of jiggling before they come off. if it looksl ike it should, keep at, it, it will. Otherwise looks for more screws.

Name: Jan H.Pedersen
Email:
bcc16571@vip.cybercity.dk
Monday 25th November 4:47 am U.K. Time

Hi All: To Roderick. Dont open yours slf1 and tray to Adjustment the sound Bias or the Audio head Azimuth Adjustment. First look at the tape path close to the pinch roller, capstan shaft, audio head, and then im sure you see a bad tape path in the guide close to the pinch roller and the audio head, typical there are upper or lover curl on this guide.If there are a curl? simply replay the pinch roller.I have repaiert many of this SL-F1 (711P Chassis) and never make a Electrical Adjustment for the sound but replay lot of pinch roller yes almost on everyone. A hint when you close yours SL-F1 for finis job first put the case on the unit and then the bottom.good luck Regards Jan H.Pedersen

Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Monday 25th November 8:33 am U.K. Time

Re: SL-F1 Well, the 50hz hum also sounds like possibly electrical interference or a grounding problem since the electricity over there is 50hz. Does it do this on the battery too? If it only does it on AC power that would definitly be some sort of interference or grounding problem or a bad power supply. If it does it on both battery and AC then check the tape path, the ACE head may be out of alignment, or other tape guides.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 25th November 8:47 am U.K. Time

I would check for proximity to AC sources of the PB head.. it could be picking up 50Hz EM field from a transformer somewhere nearby, and only be heard on playback.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 25th November 8:47 am U.K. Time

Alternatively, the audio PB head could have a broken ground wire on or to it.

Name: Steve Whelan
Email:
stevewhelan_mcr@hotmail.com
Monday 25th November 1:23 pm U.K. Time

Firstly, I like the new idea about registering - it's really simple and hopefully means the page will stay alive and spam free.

To the point: The F1 with the 50Hz buzz. Firstly, don't go messing with the presets or the guides. I learnt a long long time ago that the reason the manufacturers put paint in screws is to stop you turning them! The only time you need to mess with guides is when you buy a machine that someone else has screwed about with. And the only time to mes with presets is when you have a service manual and a decent oscilliscope!

It's not going to be down to the mains, because both the TT-F1 and the ACP-F1 use switched mode power supplies, which first rectify and smooth the 240V AC to about 385V DC.

I'd go with either Jan Pedersons assumptions on tape snagging - caused by uneven wear on the pinch roller and making the tape slide up and curl over the guide posts. When the ACE head reads the video signal it creates a drumming noise [and obviously audio will be low or no existant] - thing is, it can't be moving up too much otherwise you would lose the CTRL track and like all sonys, the screen would blank out.

It's possible that a screen or a single wire could be off the head, but maybe the machine has suffered some physical shock and there are some dry joints on the PCB connector.

Good Luck!


Name: robert
Email:
bfd710@aol.com
Tuesday 26th November 4:17 pm U.K. Time

Hi, I am a college student and I am trying to get info on the betamax machine. Can someone help?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 26th November 4:42 pm U.K. Time

WEll, Robert, as a fellow College studnet I'm glad to help but I need to know what you need. Are you studying the theory of the machine, the rise and fall of Betamax as a consumer product, or do you actually want one to use? Furthermore it is important to know where you are geographically, i.e. the UK, Japan, the US, Europe, or the Middle East because several different models were released in each region and TV standards are not always compatible.

Name: robert
Email:
bfd710@aol.com
Tuesday 26th November 5:12 pm U.K. Time

Thank you for your help in advance. I am writing a paper on the rise and fall of the Betamax machine here in the US. From what i understand is that it never "took off" like it has/had over seas.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 26th November 6:06 pm U.K. Time

Even where it was more popular than it was here it usually played second fiddle to Matushita's shameless clone, VHS, which was, not surprisingly, developed right after Sony demo'd Betamax to them. RCA was also paid to push VHS in advertising, which actually killed RCA's in-house selectavision disc system, what, while unimpressive, was superior to VHS! VHS as a format was also designed poorly so it was easier to mass-produce, whereas Betamax was the descendant of the U-matic pro format that is broadcast quality. Since VHS had lots of software (Programming) available, many people ignored Betamax superiority in favor of having more movies and so forth to watch.

Name: Mike
Email:
franchuk@spam.sympatico.ca
Tuesday 26th November 6:45 pm U.K. Time

Beta's for Sale:

[NTSC - Canada/USA]

Sony SL-100 SuperBeta mono. Black, mint. asking $90 + shipping

Sanyo VCR-7250 SuperBeta HiFi. Black, all panels good. New idler rubber. Asking $110 plus shipping.

Remove spam from email address if you wish to email me.


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Tuesday 26th November 10:33 pm U.K. Time

Robert, you might want to check out Ray Glassers Incredible Betamax Info Guide at http://www.betainfoguide.com (formerly http://www.geocities.com/videholic2000. It has a timeline on the development of the Beta format, graphs showing the most popular makes and models of Beta VCRs, and photos and info on most of the VCR models.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Wednesday 27th November 12:20 am U.K. Time

Nice looking RMT-143 on flea-bay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1941160861


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Wednesday 27th November 12:23 am U.K. Time

Andy S. special here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1941288383


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 27th November 1:18 am U.K. Time

Brenda, that is what was wrong with mine. It may be worth your time to get in contact with Andy, since I think the repair, and the Turbocharging and the general maintenance are less than $200, but ask andy. He has 2 Classic cars to support so don't quote prices from me! So that might be a good buy because it seems to be in good shape otherwis.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Wednesday 27th November 2:17 am U.K. Time

erf.... heard from a friend that says he may have a spare 2000-mie. LOL.. *sigh. I've tried to make VCDs but failed with the menu thingy.. :(

Name: Clive Meadows
Email:
falcon@hermes.net.au
Wednesday 27th November 9:47 am U.K. Time

Hi - I have an SL-F1E which is showing it's age.The rewind stops and starts very jerkily when it does get going. There is also "snow" on screen which isn't resolved by "tracking". Is there anybody in Australia that fixes Beta machines as I'm not technically adept and I'd love to transfer my tapes to another medium. It's a great old friend and I also have the HVC-4000P camera that goes with it.

rgds Clive


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Wednesday 27th November 12:46 pm U.K. Time

To Clive - It sounds like the head drum has been worn so smooth and also the heads are wearing out. There was discussion that roughing up the upper head drum with an emory cloth or very fine grit sandpaper would solve the jerky rewinding problem. If you could find them, there might still be head discs for your VCR. It would be well worth trying to save as I really can't think of any finer VCR overall than the SL-F1.

http://www.palsite.com/directory.html

lists known beta repair places around the world.


Name: Mike Graves
Email:
NOaero_nut.geoSPAM@yahoo.com
Wednesday 27th November 4:17 pm U.K. Time

Hello! Last night I re-hooked up the Beta (a Sanyo Hi-Fi model 7150 NTSC). We had just re-situated all the audio/video boxes in our family room. We usually don't record to it, but I hooked up the DirecTV to it, and the recording was great! I even recorded some music from the audio channels, and the playback sounded awesome! Does SuperVHS still record audio at 150 Hz bandwidth? We had previously recorded a lot of music from the dish in that format.

Name: Jesse5000
Email:
newspaperman5000@hotnmail.com
Wednesday 27th November 10:47 pm U.K. Time

The initial Beta TV/VCR combo sold in the U.S.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=740335339


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 27th November 11:11 pm U.K. Time

Mike: Is that a beta deck you had sitting around for awhile unused? If that's the case, welcome back [ :) ]. I record from DirectTV, myself, on beta and it's outstanding. Although I seldomly use my betas for audio-only, I have done it. The audio is near-CD quality w/ 80dB (or so) singnal-to-noise. Not too shabby!

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 28th November 1:53 am U.K. Time

Anyone else having trouble getting into the 遝taLoreII chatpage? I get a 403 notice "forbidden"

Name: Ron Hebb
Email:
ocanada6@yahoo.com
Thursday 28th November 2:15 am U.K. Time

I also got a "permission denied" message when I tried to get on the Betalore site. Glad to see it isn't only me. I wrote to Antares Choate asking if he knows anything about it.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Thursday 28th November 2:55 am U.K. Time

Maybe the snails have clogged up the server, or some baby snalie was playing around where it shouldn't on the Nixdorf server's settings. Oh well. Grr! Anyone got a spare 2000-2002 Mazda Millenia lying around? Check.. Under the couch, maybe? Or how about behind your Betas? Maybe the u-Matic had one for lunch? Eep. My friend's dad said no, that the 2000-mie wasn't for sale. Darn! And I need to know how to adjust convergence on my 1976 Trinitron... It's WAY off. Plus, I need a remote for my Yamaha DSP-1.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 28th November 3:01 am U.K. Time

But where will the snailies be able to sleech free now that the Betalore chatpage is lost in 403-land?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 28th November 3:36 am U.K. Time

Well I hope my post is not removed for saying this but we could start a boycot of this page unless ASCII art is approved... Anyway, for refference, the SLO-340 will only take Sony Black and White cameras, not other brand names, they cannot sync to it.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 28th November 10:54 am U.K. Time

The only ones boycotting the page would hurt would be us. Period. Nobody else would care. I doubt it was the snailies that happened to the 遝talore site, since A. Choate already said he had no problem with them. What more than likely has happened is some sort of DDoS attack or other problem of that ilk.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Thursday 28th November 5:25 pm U.K. Time

I get the same 403 message when trying to get to the 遝talore II chatpage.

Name: raybailey
Email:
raymondbailey1@aol.com
Thursday 28th November 8:19 pm U.K. Time

I've a SL F1UB tuner and VCR and had a camera up to 10 years ago. For sentimental reasons, I want to use a Betamx camera again. Has anyone a camera for sale, or could you point me in the right direction. Just arrived - good site.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 28th November 9:33 pm U.K. Time

Just finished watching a Beta copy of Superman that must've been released a few years after the movie. It's amazing how badly recorded the first generation of movies on video were. They must've used a tube camera to record from the film because it's sort of washed out looking (I have an early copy of Clockwork Orange that's in as bad a shape) and in some scences you can see a shadow in the corner like it was part of the lens or whatever equipment they used to transfer the film to the master tape. Not only that but in a few scenes they forget to pan and scan to the person talking (like when a TV reporter is at the scene when Lois Lane is caught by the man of steel after falling out of a helicopter - you hear her but you don't see her).

Like a lot of old videotapes the first few feet of tape are in bad shape (the part that takes most of the strain of loading tends to go bad first) but the rest of the movie was in OK shape. The end credits were truncated by Warners for the tape and a few scenes I remember from HBO broadcasts of the movie at that time were cut out. (I can clearly recall poor Miss Tessmacher almost being fed to sharks by Lex Luthor and getting rescued at the end of the movie.)

Of course, JVC must've been pleased that it's product placement scenes are intact. I always did wonder what Kryptonite was used for...


Name: Mark
Email:
kurgan@screaming.net
Thursday 28th November 10:29 pm U.K. Time

Used beta tapes (large quantity) contain films from UKTV. Buyer collects. Offers. London E4 Area.

Name: Mike
Email:
michturner@hotmail.com
Friday 29th November 3:25 pm U.K. Time

I have a beta tape on basketball skills and am in need of a player or player-recorder just for this tape . Could someone sell me one or inform me as to where I could locate a beta machine?

Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Friday 29th November 7:03 pm U.K. Time

someone just emailed me about the new fangled betas....

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Friday 29th November 8:31 pm U.K. Time

yep.. sony just released one with 2002 styling that can also play betacam tapes too. It even comes with the beta-vhs adaptor! ;) Anyone willing to tell me how to adjust convergence on that 1776 Trinitron? oops I meant 1976.

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Friday 29th November 9:58 pm U.K. Time

Mike-

Best place to find Beta machines now is eBay. You can get a working basic model for about $50. Here's a link:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=beta&categoryid=&ht=1&category2=15088&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=&from=R2&catref=C3

Good luck!


Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Friday 29th November 10:01 pm U.K. Time

Whoops!

Forget that link...try this one...

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=beta&categoryid=&ht=1&category2=15088&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=&from=R2&catref=C3

Hope this works this time...


Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Friday 29th November 10:02 pm U.K. Time

Bah!

Just go to Consumer Electronics, Home Audio and Video, VCR's, and type "beta" in the search block. You'll get a whole list of beta machines up for bid.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 29th November 11:51 pm U.K. Time

Try this boolean for E-Betas...

http://cq-search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&query2=beta%2Cbetamax%2Cbetamovie%2Cbetavision%2Cbetacord%2Cbetavideo+&search_option=2&submit=+Search+&minPrice=&maxPrice=&category0=293&exclude=nikko%2Cwarcraft%2Cragnarok%2Cshure%2Casheron%27s%2Casherons%2Calpine%2Cxbox%2Cx-box&st=&SortProperty=MetaNewSort&maxRecordsPerPage=100®ion=0&worldlocation=ebayctry&available_to=0&located_in=1&ebaycurr=&siteid=0&query=%28beta%2Cbetamax%2Cbetamovie%2Cbetavision%2Cbetacord%2Cbetavideo%29+-nikko%2C+-warcraft%2C+-ragnarok%2C+-shure%2C+-asheron%27s%2C+-asherons%2C+-alpine%2C+-xbox%2C+-x-box&shortcut=&ebaytag1code_tmp=0&ebaytag1_tmp=ebayavail&ebaytag1code=0&ebaytag1=ebayavail&ebaytag12=ebayreg&from=R14


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 30th November 12:48 am U.K. Time

Oh and the Betalore chatpage is back up...

http://www.quicktopic.com/16/H/7L8CrFSk7E7


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 30th November 3:18 am U.K. Time

Olive: Were you referring to the early Superman, recorded in mono, that comes in one of those huge WB clamshells? I've got that same one, and yes, I've seen some of those defects you mentioned. Haven't been able to find a newer hifi copy so I made one from the DVD. Oops, nevermind, I didn't say that! :)~

But seriously, some of the early tapes in my collection, are, surprisingly, in pretty damn good shape for 20+-year-old copies. Particularly some of those from Magnetic Video! I can see that some of them are REALLY old seeing how they how the "old" Betamax logo on the flip-door that covers the tape. The "遊]" one. And some of these I think are still out-of-print.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 30th November 3:21 am U.K. Time

No one wants to help me re-converge my 1776 Trinitron? It's the perfect match for my 2000-mie!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 30th November 3:54 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=194185260

Franny!

Achtung! (One of about 4 words I know in German and I probabbly spelled it wrong... Just as Well, I spell most English words Wrong... ;)


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 30th November 4:19 am U.K. Time

e-beta says it's an invalid item

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 30th November 4:30 am U.K. Time

Try this

1941852608

or try this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1941852608


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 30th November 4:30 am U.K. Time

I see, it excised the last numeral!

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Saturday 30th November 4:35 am U.K. Time

I nominate myself for the "Andy Sanchez/Rube Goldberg" award for successfully fixing my kids' VHS machine tonight with a rubber band. Old Toshiba tossed the drive belt, and ate it up on the way out. Dad whips out his handy screw gun, takes one look, and grabs a big rubber band from the junk drawer. It was a little tight, and the audio was a little wobbly, but it would have ruined the sleepover if they didn't get to watch the rest of "Jimmy Neutron". Made it through the entire movie, and is still going strong now. The neighborhood kids think I'm awesome now...

If it were only a Beta, I wouldn't have had to worry about it breaking...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 30th November 5:14 am U.K. Time

Congrats for the improvisation. beware, however, depending on how much stress that belt is under, a rubbber band may not last too long. For a copy of "jimmy Neutron" I'd rig the machine to eat it, that's the most awful cartoon carachter I've ever seen in my life, tied with "The powerpuff Girls"... Ugh.

Sean


Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Saturday 30th November 12:37 pm U.K. Time

Hmmm VHS

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 30th November 2:36 pm U.K. Time

Well I'd just like to say that my lowly SL-20 is comming up on 19 years old and has never given me trouble and has only been in the shop for a cleaning and lube when I got it. only trouble-fee beta I ever had. Of course my 900 hasn't done anything bad since Andy got it working, but I'd have to say that Beta does pretty well for being a 27 year old format and most of us maintaining 10-20 year old equipment. The fact that the SL-HF-900 is the most common unit and still sells for lots tells you people are buying these for use, not for collectibility. Collectors go for rare, users go for good.

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Saturday 30th November 2:41 pm U.K. Time

Sean-I'll be getting the right belt for the machine today-my local supplier isn't open at 9:30 at night on a friday...hence, the rubber band repair.

MBC-of COURSE it's a VHS. I said it was broken, didn't I? That having been said, short of buying a DVD player for the kid's playroom, they gotta have SOMETHING to watch their Disney movies on, and last time I checked, Best Buy wasn't selling ANYTHING in Beta in the kids section.

Just did a quick survey of the house. I have 3 Beta machines, 2 VHS, and a DVD in a pear tree. I've spent more fixing the 2 VHS than I have the 3 Betas, and their 2 predecessors. Why?


Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Saturday 30th November 2:43 pm U.K. Time

why not copy the video from vhs to beta. :D

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 30th November 7:57 pm U.K. Time

Phil: Agree w/ above poster. Or buy an el-cheapo VHS deck from Wally World? And you're not likely to find any prerecorded beta tapes in stores these days; they stopped making them around '92 or so. And your beta decks were most likely made in the 80's when they really made things to last. eBay, BTW, has a whole category for betas (premade & blanks): http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/category2286

Kinda funny, one my VHS decks looks it kicked the bucket, too. It's a higher-end Mitsubishi hifi I bought brand new in '93. Now, 9 years later, it has a tape stuck in it and won't play or eject. OK, and I have betas 7+ years older still kickin'! Such irony. ;)


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Saturday 30th November 8:14 pm U.K. Time

Has anybody else got a wierd e-mail in broken English from somebody named Sergio? I noticed it was copied to quite a few people on this page including Olive, Franny, Sean, Madness, Brenda, Ray Glasser, Alan Barnett, Dasimperator and others. I can't make sense of it-I think it was translated from Italian or something. It talks about something like "ED-Betas for all the world" etc.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Saturday 30th November 8:21 pm U.K. Time

P.S.: Remember that NEC VC-739E I mentioned awhile back? The only thing wrong with it is the rubber parts. When I put a cassette into it it just sits there with the threading ring motor humming, trying to thread the tape but unable to. If I open it up and give the threading ring a little push by hand it will thread and play. However when playing the << and >> buttons for Picture Search don't work, and it will do slow motion playback but with a lot of jitter that the Slow Tracking knob won't correct. When ejecting it likewise needs help threading the tape back into the cassette. Does anyone know who supplies belts, idler tires and pinch rollers for NEC Betas? I know Studio Sound Electronics has them for Sanyo Betas but no others.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 30th November 9:42 pm U.K. Time

I never got it if he sent it to me. I do occasionally get some gibberish in another language that can't even be displayed properly on US computers. What it says, who knows! I delete it anyway.

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Saturday 30th November 9:46 pm U.K. Time

Madness-

I was being sarcastic. No one has to convince me that Beta is better-I sold audio/video in the late 80's/early 90's when Beta machines were still available. We were a Sony dealer, and had a lot of fun showing people the difference in picture quality between the JVC VHS machines we sold and the Sony's. I was selling when ED Beta was rolled out, and when the digital Beta's and the 900/1000 were the hot machines. I own an SL-HF1000, an SL-HFR70 and HFP-200, and an SL-HFT7. I've got the VHS machines as a convenience, and my kids aren't videophiles.

Just wanted to establish that-I'm not as much of a newbie as you might think...


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 30th November 10:08 pm U.K. Time

Loaded a nice X-mas MP3 of Phil Spector's 'Sleighride song' in the Betamax Videographer chatpage for everybody.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBetamaxVideographer/files/PhilSpector-SleighrideSong.mp3

Hoping there's an SL-HF 750 or and EDCam and EDV-9500 under everyone's Beta tree...


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 30th November 11:10 pm U.K. Time

I never did get the Sergio spam-mail. But then I've messed up my E-mail so you have to know what to remove in order to get me. I figure most e-spammers have learned to cut the 'nospam' out of e-mail addys by now...

Name: Ron Hebb
Email:
ocanada6@yahoo.com
Sunday 1st December 12:27 am U.K. Time

I got the Sergio e-mail. I wouldn't call it span, exactly. It was pretty broken English, but it appears to be a letter to the president of Sony complaining about their decision to kill Beta, along with a suggestion they create combination ED Beta/DVD decks (a great, albeit futile idea). I think he cc'd everyone that's ever been on this site.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Sunday 1st December 1:58 am U.K. Time

Oh my god! They killed a Beta!!!!! You bastards!!!!!

http://home.earthlink.net/~roygbvgw/ebay/slt30me4.jpg


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 1st December 6:25 am U.K. Time

Somebody sold me an ancient top-load VHS for $5 that had taken a trip down the loading ramp. looked like that but functioned OK transport wise but the heads were worn down to little nubs. I have the head drum around here someplace and I occasionally use it as a drink coaster (Better than an AOL CD!!!)

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 1st December 9:18 am U.K. Time

Loaded my favourite holiday mp3 to the Betamax Videographer. If you're a member you can 'sleech' it at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBetamaxVideographer/files/Waitresses-Xmas-Wrapping.mp3

I used to think it was a Blondie song but I still like it. Not too many Hannukah songs out there...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 1st December 8:55 pm U.K. Time

I knew I had heard that before. Thanks, Franny, now I know what it is. I'll have to look for an Mp3 of my favorite Christmas Number...

Name: David A.
Email:
avideo@earthlink.net
Sunday 1st December 10:09 pm U.K. Time

To Andy W. - Just got back from a few days away in California to share Thanksgiving with my family. (It was about 70 and sunny in San Francisco!) And when I checked my e-mails, I also got that e-mail from some "Sergio" character looking for an ED Beta. Looks like we already have the first "spammer" taking e-mail addresses off this board. Shame on him!!! I am thinking about the possibility of selling my SL-700. I rarely use it - and I suspect someone here might be able to give it a good home. I bought it from the original owner - a former broadcast guy here on the west coast. It's in really great shape - all panels and doors are in nice condition; and all controls work perfectly. About the only thing I can find wrond on this machine is that the display is a bit weak - mostly due to some dust getting under the display panel. If you can live with a SuperBeta that doesn't have Hi-Fi; it might be worth a look.

Name: Dennis Gibson
Email:
dennis.gibson@anu.edu.au
Monday 2nd December 7:54 am U.K. Time

I have a Sony SL HF100AS that has a problem with the NEC D7519G display driver / processor. I have no display and no turn-on unless relay RY621 in the PSU is forced on, then things start to work but still no display.

Does anyone have either a schematic for this area ("MC" on the PCB) or a pin-out of the chip?

Thanks,

DG


Name: Scott
Email:
scottveazie@hotmail.com
Tuesday 3rd December 1:55 am U.K. Time

Hello,

Firstly, an update on the Beta Informer. For the last couple of months I have been trying to get my Eudora mail to send the Informer out (Eudora is the only mail program I know of that is free and will let me past lots of email addresses in the BCC choice) but if anyone can point me in the right direction of a free alternative, that would be great. I cannot figure out what all of a sudden it won't let me email out. Very frustrating. Secondly, I have the following for trade:

Sony EDV-9500

Will trade for Sony SL-HF2100, or willing to entertain offers. I am really looking for a SL-HF2100 though. Thanks so much.

~Scott


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 3rd December 3:28 am U.K. Time

Why would you trade DOWN from an ED-beta to a ordinary SuperBeta? Even if it was the SL-HF 2100, I'd still rather have an EDV-9500...

Anyways...

It feels good to sleech a sleecher...

It seems the only time our local PBS station ever deigns to put on programming that might draw interest outside their usual core audience they put it on their beg-athon weeks... (where they interrupt programming to tell you the benefit of supporting public TV is that you won't have to sit through commercials!)

Well their begathon commercial were no match for my trusty SL-HF 360. Got a nice documentary about the vanished downtown shopping districts of our area - the old department stores, movie theaters,hotels, train stations and etc...- with at least a half hour or more of begging surgically removed...

Being among the first generation to grow up in a land without downtowns to speak of it's sad to see what I've missed...

like the poor deprived kids growing up without Betas...

It's like what the man said - there is no America anymore - just the malls people go to and the malls people used to go to...


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Tuesday 3rd December 3:59 am U.K. Time

Well gang, I did it! I finally found that editing deck for my home videos! I did not want to spend more than 300 bucks, which eliminated the SL-HF1000 and 2100, and the SLV-R1000 and SVO-2000, and the Panasonic AG-1980. I also wanted a well-built and reliable one, which eliminated anything JVC. What a dreamer, thinking I could get a good editing VCR for under $300! But where there's a will, there's a way. A broad search of Ebay for "Sony VCR" turned up model SLV-R5UC. It was supposedly one of Sony's first VHS-system based VCRs after they gave up on 遝ta, so it probably dates from 1989 or 1990. I bid on 1 and lost, and bid on another and won it today at $295 :) It's like an S-VHS version of the SL-HF1000, with a big old jog/shuttle wheel on the unit and remote, A/V insert editing, front A/V input, mike and headphone jacks, Edit Monitor mode, PIP mode, and more. But all the controls are on the inside of a flip-down door that runs the length of the unit, reminiscent of the SL-HF2100. The controls are normal buttons however, not touchpad. It also has a Control-L jack on the front that will interface with the LANC jack on my camcorder (with an adapter cable) and a Control-S jack on the back that will work with the one on my SL-HF600. :):):):)

Name: Scott
Email:
scottveazie@hotmail.com
Tuesday 3rd December 5:43 am U.K. Time

RE: Trading down from ED Beta to Super Beta. I never use the ED function on my 9500 as I only have about 5 metal tapes, and many more standard Beta tapes. I figured maybe someone would really want an ED, whilst I'd rather have the 2100. I've always wanted one of those crazy touch screen decks.

~Scott


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Tuesday 3rd December 5:58 am U.K. Time

Re: SLV-R5UC

This is one of the best prosumer SVHS's, but it does have one common fault. The power supply. It runs *very* hot, and the capacitors in there are very likely to start leaking. Sometimes they can be rebuilt as long as the electrolyte hasn't damaged the PCB. One thing I recommend. Mound some sorta fan on the back to help cool the power supply. That should at least help to delay or prevent that problem. As a matter of fact I have one of these VCR's in my closet with a bad PSU, but the PCB is already damaged, so I'd have to buy a whole PSU from Sony to get working again.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 3rd December 6:07 am U.K. Time

Well if I ever turn one of those up I'll have to mount the big server fan over the grating in the back. (Scrapped a Vectra) My JVC HR-S5500U runs awfully hot but since, in my oppinion, BIs looks almost as good as SVHS and the best beta tapes are $9 new and the lowest I've seen SVHS is around $12 you know what makes my movies and so forth. In fact I almost never use it, but it's way too cool to sell off. I was given a free 29" (?) trinitron set... Betamax Era... have to look into it because of my unified Sony Remote... controls TVs, and VTR codes 1 through three. I also have one that handles my reciever, VTR 2, and a television among other Sony goodies I don't have!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 3rd December 6:12 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942514732 My dream: One of these with a Beta (Three speed superbeta HiFi) in place of the DV deck. Ultimate recorder... BIs for short features, SVHS at EP for long features, copy to VHS for friends, copy to beta from rentals, edit down from Betamovie tapes to VHS so other people can watch them... Yeah, I've noticed half the reason I use VHS is so other people can look at my tapes... the other half is the $0.99 Maxell tapes...

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 3rd December 7:16 am U.K. Time

Yikes! I just can't imagine trying to use that other format on a daily basis....

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 3rd December 8:54 am U.K. Time

Ah... HP Vectra... the VHS of computers.. *gggg* (Daewoo, of course).

Sean, if you ever come across an SLO-1800, think of me first if you don't want it for yourself.. in the meantime, I'll keep my eyes on fleabay for one. I'm so way happy with my SLO-323, the audio is even better since I cleaned the audio heads.. not bad for linear stereo..


Name: Nico
Email:
nicolas.zuniga@db.com
Tuesday 3rd December 12:30 pm U.K. Time

Hi everybody I'm new around here, thank God I found Palsite and this forum. Hope anybody can give me a hand with this:

I own a SL-HF 950 ES with the Superbeta PRO-mode which apparently works only using the rarely seen PRO-X tapes to offer 280 lines of resolution. As I don't find PRO-X tapes anywhere, would I get the same result by using oxide Betacam tapes, given that these are designed for professional use? Or would a good, new high grade tape give me the same result?

Furthermore, I'm a bit confused now regarding the use of Betacam oxide tapes on plain Beta machines. I read at Palsite that you can use the small sized OXIDE Betacam tapes with no risk of 'burning' the heads and that only METAL tapes (mainly used since the introduction of Betacam SP) would be harmful. I contacted Sony's technical support here in Madrid (Spain) and one 'technician' told me the following two things: 1- Forget about it all Beta is DEAD (my ears were completely shut to that comment) 2- OXIDE tapes are MORE harmful to heads than METAL tapes, much more if we are talking about using them on a consumer Betamax machine, because metal tapes are smoother in formulation ?????!!!!!. Well that's exacltly the opposite to what I read in Palsite, so now I really don't know what to think... Could please somebody enlighten me? Is it good to use Betacam oxide tapes to record in Superbeta PRO-mode or will that harm my heads anyhow? Should I just use new UHG tapes instead if I can find any? Will the result be as good?

Thanx!!


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 3rd December 12:56 pm U.K. Time

Nico,

Smoothness of formulation isn't necessarily better. What you are dealing with in oxide vs. metal tape is the HARDNESS of the formulation. Heads designed for oxide tapes are relatively soft. The soft oxide formulation wears down the heads, but not near so quickly as the harder metal formulation (think your car's brakes... the metal is soft, brake pads softer. The pads will wear the smooth metal braking surfaces over time, but if the metal holding the pads contacts the metal braking surface, it wears it very quickly). In other words, the metal tapes being harder than your heads will cause the heads to wear very quickly, regardless of how "smooth" the formulation may be.


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 3rd December 12:58 pm U.K. Time

Oh, forgot the other important factor.. the bias for the oxide heads/tapes will not be adequate for metal tape, so your video response would not be linear (bad picture).

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 3rd December 2:02 pm U.K. Time

Brenda:

SLO-1800: If I see one I'll let you know. If I come into one I'll see ab out letting you have it. Of course if my school dumps a whole lot of them, I'll be sure to grab them all and we can have the closest thing to the fabled lost wharehouse since one guy got two whole racks of SL-HF-750s. I have an edit control, for a single machine. I forget the model number.


Name: Nico
Email:
nicolas.zuniga@db.com
Tuesday 3rd December 2:05 pm U.K. Time

Thanx Brenda!

So I understood correctly, exactly as explained in Palsite, only oxide Betacam tapes can be used with our loved consumer Beta machines without a risk to burn the heads. Okay. Now, would it still be an advantage to use oxide Betacam tapes towards standar Beta high grade tapes in the SL-HF 950 at Supebeta PRO-mode? I mean, are Betacam tapes better anyway in magnetic formulation, being conceived for the professional market? I know Betacam obviously runs much faster than plain Beta machines to give a much better quality, but are the tapes (being both oxide) exacly the same or I should note a difference? Anyone has experienced this?

Thanx!!


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 3rd December 8:11 pm U.K. Time

Sean, Thanks. :)

Nico:

I haven't tried them myself, but many of the regulars here say that the 遝tacam tapes are superior to standard 遝ta tapes, enough so that they will buy even used 遝tacam tapes over new standard tapes.


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 3rd December 8:19 pm U.K. Time

Of course Betacam Metal tapes can't be used because they put the record tab on the other side of the tapeshell botton leaving an empty hole where the tab normally goes. If you try to record a metal tape your machine will think you're trying to record on a protected tape and react accordingly...

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Tuesday 3rd December 11:28 pm U.K. Time

Thanks for the advice, BeefJerky. I've heard from some R5 owners who have also mentioned the PSU overheating. One of those little electronics fans from Radio Shack oughta do the trick. My last Ebay purchase (CCD-TRV87 Hi8 cam) took over a month and a half to arrive-the seller didn't even ship it till 5 weeks after the auction even though I paid withing 3 minutes of the auction ending via Paypal. Apparently he did this with other buyers too because his username is now suspended from Ebay. I sure hope this one is quicker because I shot some video with that new cam of the Thanksgiving party, and it contains a section of "floor shot" where a relative of mine who shall remain anonymous left the camcorder running while carrying it around dangling from its shoulder strap. That needs to be edited out before I can give copies of it to family and friends. I'm sick of trying to edit with consumer VCRs without flying erase heads that leave a purple-ish mark that dances across the screen for a few seconds at every edit point. No more of that.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 3rd December 11:53 pm U.K. Time

If you want to get rid of those edit 'rainbows' you can record a few seconds of black video (switching your VCR to line in without a video source hooked up) at the point you want to edit. Then when you go to lay the regular video it's treated like blank tapeand most of the rainbow is eliminated.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 4th December 12:14 am U.K. Time

I'm gonna throw in 2 and take a shot in the dark on Nico's questions. Being on the NTSC side, I don't know much about Pro-X. But is it possible that the tapes are not true metal, but chrome-dioxide? A good analogy in comparing types might be standard audio cassettes, which come in three formulations: Type I (oxide), Type II (chrome) & Type IV (metal). Standard Beta tapes & Betacam oxides are equivelent to Type I; Pro-X (if indeed they are chrome), would be like Type II; and Betacam SP's would be like Type IV. Again, if that's the case, then Betacam SP tapes would definately be a no-no for your 950. Betacam oxide's could certainly be used to record in regular SuperBeta and are thought be the equivelent to SHG Betamax tapes due to their intended pro/broadcast use. You'd most likely want 20- and 30-minute small-shell tapes (exact same size as a regular beta), which are the same exact lengths as L-500 & L-750 tapes, respectively (the others that will also work are 5- & 10-minute, which would be L-125 & L-250, respectively). Word of warning: Be careful, however, as Sony made the 30-minute Betacam's in the LARGE-SHELL size (useless) as well as small.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 4th December 12:57 am U.K. Time

One other thing came to mind: I would think, logically, that the Pro-X tapes would also have an extra hole (or holes) somewhere on the cassette shell that would tell the VCR that this is, indeed, a Pro-X tape and not a standard one. So, therefore, it might not even be possible to get the machine to record in Pro-X. Unless, Pro-X's have the exact same T-shaped hole on the bottom w/ the three knock-out tabs as all Betacam tapes do. You might be able to trick the machine into thinking it's a Pro-X by removing one or all of those tabs on a Betacam tape. I included a scan-link of an actual Sony Betacam tape-bottom to illustrate: http://members.verizon.net/~madness2/betacam.gif

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Wednesday 4th December 1:48 am U.K. Time

I have several PD Magnetics L-750s and a BASF L-750 that say on the box that they are CrO2 Chromium dioxide tapes. They seem to work best in Super遝ta, certainly producing a better picture than normal oxide tapes, but in regular 遝ta they seem to produce more noise in the picture, possibly because they require the higher Super遝ta video frequency to utilize them properly.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Wednesday 4th December 1:51 am U.K. Time

Those tabs are used to indicate the length of tape for Betacam decks. All tabs indicate a BC-20. Left tab missing indicates a BC-30.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Wednesday 4th December 2:09 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942519743 Strange. If you look at one of the photos you can see that the cassette door on this Sanyo VCR-4030 says "Betacord". Yet I have the exact same model and it says "Super遝ta" on the tape door.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Wednesday 4th December 2:15 am U.K. Time

Mine is more like this one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942529751

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Wednesday 4th December 3:32 am U.K. Time

Well, guys, your posts have been very informative!!!! I've learned a lot, LOL! Brenda whats wrong with Daewoo? I like them and Gold Star. :) We bring good things to VHS, olive :D. I was gonna say, that my Spamsung VeHoS does not record black if disconnected from line, it records that "blank-tape-white-noise." Hmmm. I really like my Spamsung... Will feeding it Betacam SP tape for like two weeks (about 2 1/2 hours each day) have shortened its life? I traded tape in a Vehos shell to a Beta shell so the 300 can have some nice fresh tape. The Spamsung didnt seem to complain as much about the tape as did the 300. Another question, will using SP tape for a few seconds or so clean the heads? Since it's "abrasive" won't it clean them by rubbing off the residue or whatever? I'm going on some dumb retreat in Houston until Friday.. so I won't be able to check the posts. Stay safe and behave, you guys! ____@_** "snail-nanny will watch them!!!"

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 4th December 3:41 am U.K. Time

Look even closer and you'll see that the Betacord VCR-4030 has no SuperBeta switch whereas the SuperBeta VCR-4030 does...

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 4th December 3:53 am U.K. Time

Sleechalert! Working Sanyo VCR-7200 at only $55 BIN - missing flipper door

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943151549


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 4th December 3:58 am U.K. Time

and if you want a VCR-7200 with the flipper door...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943180215

$66 BIN


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Wednesday 4th December 4:26 am U.K. Time

Jesse: Abrasive and hard are two different things. While the oxide is softer, it's more abrasive (rougher). And, while the metal is harder, it's much smoother and therefore less abrasive. So, running a metal tape is not likely to clean the heads. Really the best way to clean the heads without opening the machine is to just simply take a new blank beta tape and run it for about 10mins. And continue to use it that way if/when the heads get dirty in the future, just don't rewind it, and once it's at the end, discard it. Otherwise, you'll just redeposit the dirt.

Name: Meter
Email:
someone@somewhere.org
Wednesday 4th December 4:52 am U.K. Time

I have a PRO-X tape in my possession and apart from sporting a full width window as on the latest Sony Betamax tape, its go no difference which would differentiate it from a standard tape.

I state the SL-HF1000 manual which says that "to assure the high quality of the super hi-band recording, use of high-quality tapes such as Sony PRO-X type is recommended." This, however, does not tell more about tape formulation.

I also have a cassette case which is a Betamax PRO (not PRO-X) tape case. It is made of dark grey hard plastic and it has a golden label stating it holds a "professional grade video cassette ideal for master recording". It also has a "Hi-Packing" logo which I remember seeing on Sony SVHS tapes at some point.

I wonder what are the particularities of this PRO tape with regards to PRO-X or HG tapes.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 4th December 5:11 am U.K. Time

Metal/Chrome/Oxide thing... I had some of those BASF tapes that said they were chrome, and I wondered if maybe they were for ED beta but I was told that that is just how BASF marketed there tapes. They were awful video tapes, only somewhat better than a scotch. (I heard that scotch put computer tape in video cartriges but later I heard that computer tape is not good for video heads...

As for cleaning heads, there was something called "Green tape" that was, well, green, and used to polish the heads down to spec. it would also clean them very well (8-track head cleaners were made of it) but since it polishes them down it shouldn't be used on any older betamax or Umatic or other rare/endangered systems because we don't want to un-necesarily shorten the lives of out heads, especially the older Umatic machines that had somehting like 1000 head hours only before they were no good, and how many of those hours are on them when we pick them up. NEVER clean heads with cleaning tapes, get the tech to do it or do it yourself, because it takes only a few hours for a cleaning tape to eat up all your heads, a friend of mine was involved in a study of cleaning tapes (Using betamax VCRs no less)... I'll ask him for the results and post later, this is too long allready.


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Wednesday 4th December 10:31 pm U.K. Time

Good eye, Olive. But otherwise the machines are identical...why would Sanyo make two machines identical except for the Super遝ta function and give them the same model number?

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 4th December 11:29 pm U.K. Time

Laziness or an oversight or they got the SuperBeta technology from Sony sometime in the middle of VCR 4030 production and they figured that as long as they were using the same chassis, why go through the expense of coming up with another model name and/or design? There was a black VCR-4032 variant that was a SuperBeta unit. At least the one model I've seen...


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 5th December 6:42 am U.K. Time

Ouch! that's no way to treat a Beta!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943273940


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 5th December 6:10 pm U.K. Time

Well I'm happy, I pulled one of those "GO-Video" double VCRs out of the dumpster, and, whoo-hoo, it works! one side needs its heads cleaned, that's all. and not even very much. All I need is the remote. Free is the best price for beta and really the only price for VHS.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 5th December 9:06 pm U.K. Time

was it one of the side-by-side models or the stacked version with one on top of the other? I sorta like the stacked kind. Too bad GoVideo never bothered to make a Beta VHS combo but then they had all sorts of hassles just trying to put out their paired VHS models. They had to sue some Japanese VCR companies for restraint of trade or something like that cause they were blocking access to parts and production plants. Finally they found a Korean company to build VCRs for them...

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 5th December 9:17 pm U.K. Time

it's the side by side, I think the stacked model is a Radio Shack item. Sadly it's not the SVHS model. but it IS nice looking. I have no remote, if someone turns one up I'd be grateful.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 6th December 3:18 am U.K. Time

_@_v-eee hee hee hee!

Modern Marvels is running an episode on Digital Gadgets - in the segment on TiVos and DVD recorders they mention the Sony Betamax and the Supreme Court case that legalitmized the home VCR. They also showed a couple Beta VCRs including a Zenith KR-9000W and an SL-HF 300 (missing it's flipper door) in the segement as well...


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 6th December 4:45 am U.K. Time

Try http://www.replacementremotes.com/goldstar-govideo/ to get a replacement GoVideo remote.

Name: ami
Email:
Aivars.Migla@lattelekom.lv
Friday 6th December 6:40 am U.K. Time

Talking about double VCRs. Some time ago Sony also had manufactured such a machine - two VeHoSys stacked one above another (I have seen one in second hand electronic shop). Maybe later I'll tell the model number. Yesterday I bought a RMT-223 on a flea market. Unfortunately this remote does not control none of my Sony Beta VCRs - SL-C7 and SL-C44PS. So I have to look for SL-HF950 :-/

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Friday 6th December 11:21 am U.K. Time

my pro-x box claims "super precision vivax magnetic particles[230million particles/sq.mm".also "6.0db reduction in video modulation noise and 2.5 increase in video s/n compared to sony standard grade".pro-x plays and records properly in my 600,900,750,and 2100.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 6th December 7:02 pm U.K. Time

Here's an interesing though not Beta item...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942554215

TEAC 'Elcaset' format audio recorder. Before this site took a vacation there was some talk about the Elcaset format (That Sony had created) and it's superiority to the Phillips Compact Cassette format. Like Beta it didn't get enough market share and disappeared. Unlike Beta they stopped making media for these a long time ago.


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 6th December 8:45 pm U.K. Time

Hey Olive, I got one of those Elcaset decks - Sony EL-7 3-head. Their great idea of combining the quality of " reel tape w/ the convenience of a cassette. Great idea, but it was a bit ahead of its time I think. But the tapes are nearly the size (L/W) as a beta tape but a little thinner.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 6th December 10:21 pm U.K. Time

Ah, I've always wanted one of those. rediculously expensive. Hey Olive have you ever seen the little fan that went on the side of the Apple II to cool it and it provided extra outlets? I've got one.

Sean


Name: tiger san archives
Email:
catslairarchives@yahoo.com
Friday 6th December 10:33 pm U.K. Time

what is the difference between NTSC beta and PAL vhs? i ask because i am wondering if it might be possible to put a PAL tape into a beta shel so i can watch it. other than that, if anyone in the list is able to copy from PAL vhs to any NTSC format (vhs or beta) please contact me as swiftly as possible. thanks!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 6th December 10:48 pm U.K. Time

Look out, here comes the hurricane.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 6th December 11:44 pm U.K. Time

I haven't seen the "system-saver" side fan for the Apple IIe (except in old computer books) but I used to have a Mac Plus with a fan and extra plug that mounted on top of the unit. It also had a power switch.

PAL and NTSC are broadcast televsion system formats not tape formats. You can't pop an NTSC recorded tape from one tape shell to a shell that used to hold a PAL tape and expect it to magically be able to play in PAL any more than poping a Beta tape into a VHS shell will make the Beta tape 'speak' in VHS..


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 7th December 1:28 am U.K. Time

Well Jesse had to go away, wish he could be here for this!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942312392


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 7th December 1:29 am U.K. Time

eeeeeeee!!!! _@_** I saw one of those fan-thingies at GEoodwill! finally got back from my idiot retreat. ...... ugh! I missed my betas!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 7th December 1:40 am U.K. Time

Still got time to snag the '-Matic-mie

Sean


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 7th December 2:56 am U.K. Time

I think the 'proper' term is a "U-mie" (you-me)?

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Saturday 7th December 3:03 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1941897071 Without the jog/shuttle dial on the unit, this would look just like a Hi8 version of the SL-HF750

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 7th December 3:34 am U.K. Time

I hate that that Lled person always sticks his name all over the pix he loads. heaven forbid someone might want to download a piccy...

And I'm sure he probably steals everyone elses stuff online...

The people who "know their rights" and guard them to the minutia are always the most blithe about trampling on others...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 7th December 4:39 am U.K. Time

I agree, Franny. There was a Hi8 deck that looked EXACTLY like an SL-HF-1000. If anyone sees one, let me know. it would make a nice companion to a 1000.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 7th December 11:28 am U.K. Time

sean- circuit city sells svhs 120's as low as 3.99. tapeworld.com and smilephotovideo.com sell svhs 120's for 3.99 - 4.99 and beta 750hg's for 2.99 - 4.49.

Name: Stewart
Email:
bel@dsl.pipex.com
Saturday 7th December 12:23 pm U.K. Time

BETAMAX (WEGA) WITH TAPE STACKER FOR AUCTION - PAL - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943846709

Name: Jesse5000
Email:
newspaperman5000@hotnmail.com
Saturday 7th December 12:47 pm U.K. Time

Based on my http://www.betamax.to research, Sony created japanese-language programming for ED Beta decks. Were prerecorded ED Beta tapes created for the American market? And was any programming ever recorded in SuperBeta for sale to the consumer?

Also: My grandparents own a "Zenith Video Director" front-loading vcr that is nearly indentical to the Sony SL-5000. When I loaded a tape (Jane Fonda's Workout) to play, there was a horizontal static bar filling the center 1/4th of the tv screen. Also, the audio had a "waw-waw-waw" feeling, as if somebody was turning the tape speed up and down repeatedly. Could a new set of belts be the solution to this problem?

I thank you all for your knowledge and time.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 7th December 3:23 pm U.K. Time

eep.. probably. Anyways... I missed the u-mie but wasn't particularly angry about it because it was missing its power switch! That poor thing.. I'd rather have the BVU-900mie series u-mie that's sitting all lonely in the offline edit suite they're dismantling at WOAI. It looked so sad, sitting amongst the old Beta SP units (that were powered up, the only not-powered thing besides the monitors was the sad-looking u-mie. :(:( )

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 7th December 5:42 pm U.K. Time

I'm set for U-matic machines. Before the next semester of college begins I'll have a VO-5850 and two of the VO-2850 which were some of the most advanced units in there day. I have seen the product demo tape for them, they are really something. I am also getting a TRI edit control and the orriginal Sony edit control. I just need a place to put them, and they are very heavy to ship.

Name: Casimir Alonso Taul
Email:
casimir_alonso_taule@hotmail.com
Saturday 7th December 8:15 pm U.K. Time

Hi to all! Sorry for disappearing but I couldn't find the address of the other chat you made. I also wanted to tell that I put a vhs oxide cassette (to have a better cassette) on a beta shell and it only read the linear audio and slower. There wasn't even a video image. I erased that tape with other beta recordings.

Regards to all,

Casimir.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 7th December 9:23 pm U.K. Time

Yes, the linear audio on most decks will do that, I have older open-reel decks that do that.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 7th December 9:47 pm U.K. Time

Anyone with an ED Beta VCR will want this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1977620386

The ED Beta Demo tape. "MrBetamax" has already bid $10 on it...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 7th December 10:04 pm U.K. Time

I love the description. I wish I had an ED-Beta machine.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 7th December 10:28 pm U.K. Time

eeeeeee! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944015392 betamie brochure... hee hee hee

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 7th December 10:36 pm U.K. Time

Someday I WILL own an SL-HF1000 and EDV-9500 and an EDC-55. I would really enjoy unwrapping a brand new beta fresh from Japan and plugging it into my DVD player and not being able to tell difference between DVD and tape. Does the EDV-9500 have a S-video in? I saw a really cool Sony video monitor at the "flee market." It had that cool display thingy on the side! Let me explain, it's like the Service Engine Soon lamp on your car's dashboard, you can't see it until it lights up. It's a row of lights like that and they lite up, they say things like S-VIDEO 1, LINE IN, etc. http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_cfbe47cddd79bd47d3cc0a7d2fea47f7/i-1.JPG this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is it! it had no speakers... it is a cool monitor! too bad I didnt buy it, I have no place to put it! Anyone intersted in my Minitron?

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Saturday 7th December 11:01 pm U.K. Time

Well, here's your chance for an ED Beta...if you've got an extra $1100 lying around. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942726622Since this EDV-7500 has S-Video inputs I'm sure the 9500 does too.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Saturday 7th December 11:04 pm U.K. Time

Even though the word "Since" was accidentally included as part of the link (That last post should read ...since this EDV-7500...)The link still seems to work.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Saturday 7th December 11:56 pm U.K. Time

Jesse,

What's a Minitron???


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 7th December 11:57 pm U.K. Time

Yes, we'd like to see a picture!

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 8th December 12:35 am U.K. Time

http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_694070c8a19812d2272abcd2935c4c2c/i-1_B.JPG

_@_技-this 'minitron'?


Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Sunday 8th December 12:48 am U.K. Time

I own a Sony Sony KX-14CP1

Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Sunday 8th December 12:51 am U.K. Time

I own a Sony KX-14CP1 Trinicon Video Monitor (with internal speaker) There was a american model on 'Richie Rich' and an english model on Tomorrow's world during the late 80s Interesting.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 8th December 1:01 am U.K. Time

Two questions for the MAC people here... I picked up a Power PC G3 and an empty chassis with the AV ins and outs, but I have no mac monitors. do the video outputs output by default or I have to activate them, neccesitating a monitor? Also, can I just plug the card with the ins and outs onto the G3 maiboard or one of its subsidiaries? and can I use this MAC memeory in a PC? it it the long chips... I have 19 sticks of MAC memory, some of them are 16 MB from "big blue" and others have no label... anyone want some?

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Sunday 8th December 2:12 am U.K. Time

Jesse-

The Sony monitor you saw was the first XBR, if memory serves me correctly. The speakers were color coded to the frame color and attached to the sides of the monitor frame. I think the model # was KV-27XBR.

If you can still get your hands on it, I'd be interested in it-they don't get much better than that one. How much did they want for it?


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Sunday 8th December 1:06 pm U.K. Time

Jesse:

How much you want for your Minitron?? Looks like just what I need for my inhouse cable system video monitor. The 21" that I have is just way too huge.. (@)(@)


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 8th December 6:19 pm U.K. Time

Talking about monitors, I used to have a Sony KV-25XBR. It was a 25" TV/Monitor, circa mid 80's. Was a perfect companion to the beta decks at the time. And it had this weird 34-pin connector on the rear marked "RGB" that looked sorta like the floppy one on a motherboard. Sadly, the TV died (tube blew) and we replaced it w/ a 27" WEGA.

Name: streetwulf
Email:
graham@streetwulf.co.uk
Sunday 8th December 7:00 pm U.K. Time

I have a non working SL-8080 which refuses to go on and will not lace up tape. I am looking for a donor/working machine or will swap for PYE vr20v22 V2000 in good working order. 02088555580 LONDON

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Sunday 8th December 10:20 pm U.K. Time

NEC Betamie for you Aussies...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944158359

BM-11EG clone of Sony's BMC-110 - $30 Aussiebux.


Name: Troy
Email:
ac_dc_rocks@hotmail.com
Sunday 8th December 11:27 pm U.K. Time

Hi Australian Beta fans. I was wondering if any of you's have or know of anyone who has any early episodes of the Aussie pop show "Countdown" on Beta cassette or other early formats like Philips VCR format or reel-reel video or National video cartridge format? If anyone does, could you's please contact me at ac_dc_rocks@hotmail.com because I'm interested in buying the tapes or buy a VHS copy of the tapes if you's prefer to keep them. I've also put up a search for lost Countdowns website which is at http://web.1earth.net/~funkydud/ . Basically most of the episodes from pre-1978 have been wiped and I want to recover old episodes from early home recordings. My favourite Countdown era is from 1974-1977 but I'm still interested in the late 70's and 80's Countdowns on home video recordings too. I do have a 1982 Sanyo Betacord VTC-5000 but it doesn't work as the heads are stuffed but I'm getting a Beta Hifi professional machine soon anyway. I've also got two ancient 1970's Philips VCRs that use VCR cassettes with one spool stacked on top of the other, one is an early 1970's N1500 and the other is a N1700 both have faults but work enough to play VCR tapes and I've transferred a number of them to VHS. And I'm constantly looking for more and more VCR tapes so if anybody's got any please email me.

Cheers

Troy


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 9th December 1:05 am U.K. Time

You have less than 15 minutes to beat the Snail for an SL-HF 600 (hint if you bid $150 you'll prolly beat his limit)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15099&item=1942747757


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 9th December 1:27 am U.K. Time

Well looks like somebody salted the Snail in last minute bidding for that SL-HF 600. And he'd only put in a $93 bid or so. Too bad it's going to another Snail though. This snail (abatuf) seems to deal mainly in 8mm equipment; must've decided to branch out into Beta...

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Monday 9th December 2:51 am U.K. Time

Hey Sean about the GE3, you can use the s-video and composite video out ports as a monitor, except you have to select it in the Monitors control panel. You can also get a PC-Mac monitor adaptor (connects PC monitor to a Mac). I think I may have a spare one lying around. About the "Minitron," that is the pet name I have for my 1976 Trinitron, because it is so small, a 13" one. The "Tinytron" is that piccy of the rack-mountable monitor that Olive posted. Nope, the monitor I saw at the "flee market" was a Sony PVM series, the PVM-2030 if ebay serves correctly. They call it the "cube." They wanted $20 for it, but it is very heavy and looked like it had been mowed around, there were bits of grass clipping all around its vents. I like it because it's like the smaller ones at Disney store that have that lite up indicator on the side!!!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Monday 9th December 2:51 am U.K. Time

I don't have a Tinytron, sadly... :(

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 9th December 3:08 am U.K. Time

Scored two interresting pieces of Sony Technology:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21168&item=1942770786&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3339&item=802814343&rd=1

These are a completely different animal from digital cameras and I'll post info on my Web Page when they come.


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 9th December 3:35 am U.K. Time

_@_v-eeeeeee! I want one of those Mavicams! Looks like a pro 35mm!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 9th December 4:19 am U.K. Time

I know. I'll keep my eyes open for you. __@_oo

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 9th December 4:22 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943920609

Something to drool over.


Name: Johnjas Hedrick
Email:
mackngboro@aol.com
Monday 9th December 4:40 am U.K. Time

I am looking for a betamax vcr in working condition. If you have an available betamax, please e-mail me at mackngboro@aol.com. Thank you.

Name: Johnjas Hedrick
Email:
mackngboro@aol.com
Monday 9th December 5:00 am U.K. Time

Nevermind. please do not e-mail me. you will not get a response.Thank you.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Monday 9th December 10:38 am U.K. Time

You'll have to let us know if those old Mavicas used the JPEG file format or some oddball format almost nobody has a translater for...

Do you need the disc player or can you hook the camera to a PC (or Mac?)?

And can you still get fresh media for them?

Just when did those cameras you got come out anyway? I have an old Life special edition from the '80s that featured the first a preview generation of digital floppycams. It's interesting to see how far we've come so fast. The camera cost $5000 bux had a 600,000 pixel resolution with the discs cost $10 bux apiece (25 to 50 pix per disc). In the article you see the photgarpher uploading the pix back to his editor on a 'portable' player unit hooked up to one of those 'ye olde' acoustic coupler modems. (oldtimers will remember them as the ones you had to attach to the the telephone handset - it would make a sound that the handset mic would pick up...).

A Casio ad for their digital floppy cam noted that you could hook the thing to your TV when you wanted to view them.

A couple years ago I got one of those cheapie IXLA cameras that had half the pixelage and with a 2MB fixed flash memory (16 too 32 pix) for $120 bux. The pictures are marginal but usable and I can hook the camera to my creaky old mid '90s Mac.


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 9th December 11:39 am U.K. Time

We have a "spare" 1.2Mpixel Mavica floppycam here we may be interested in letting go for a reasonable price, since we got Cybershot now. The Mavica does jpeg, up to 1024x9something resolution and has a few trick effects (solarization, b/w, sepiatone, etc.) and records on standard floppies. I beleive they format to DOS.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 9th December 2:19 pm U.K. Time

My Mavicam is high-rez NTSC television photos. 50 to a disk in field, 25 in frame mode. Look here for the whole story:

http://www.digicamhistory.com/Index.html

The pictures from one of those floppy disks can be put on a PC with a rare enough reader or simply dumped to the NTSC input of a PC or Mac with A/V.


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 9th December 7:08 pm U.K. Time

Hey and Happy MoAnday folx! :) I just got back w/ a nice little item. My buddy, an engineer at a local indy-turned-PAX TV station (who's hooked me up w/ scores of betacam tapes) called me earlier today. He told me the station was selling a Sanyo VCR7300! Yannow, that beta-hifi portable that looks more like a boombox? Apparently, they were still using it for on-the-spot audio recording! They moved over to something new and I snagged the Sanyo. Done a bit of messing w/ it and it works fine (was well-maintained by the station I assume). But it looks kinda funny sitting vertically on top of the TV. Is it 'sposed to be that way (for anyone else who may have one)? Kind of a lucky find, thanks to my bud! :)

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 9th December 9:09 pm U.K. Time

Likewise Mr. (?) Madness! I'm happy since I just scored a 16" monitor to go with my G3! I ahve to get him hooked up and see what it was he did in life. The monitor has Apple Desktop Bus ports on it... what are they for??? No news on the betamax front, however.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 9th December 11:44 pm U.K. Time

Hey! The MAc works! Happy! Happy! oh, and thanks go out to DasImperator for the hints on how to fix my SL-2000.

Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmail.com
Tuesday 10th December 12:03 am U.K. Time

Sony EDV-9500 for trade:

With rack mounts, RMT-148 remote, original reprint manual from Sony, ED Beta demo tape from Sony. Will trade for Sony SL-HF2100

~Scott


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 10th December 12:24 am U.K. Time

Scott...

I saw somebody at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Betamax with an SL-HF 2100 to trade for your ED Beta.


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 10th December 12:26 am U.K. Time

Whoops looks like you got that message already...

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 10th December 2:24 am U.K. Time

Hey Brenda how about a "write-off" donation of the Mavica to the Wards Home For Wayward Mazda Millenia S-es and Sony Electronics?

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 10th December 2:37 am U.K. Time

dammit Sean! That's so not faiiirr, you ALWAYS get the coolest stuff! Can you imagine how cool that Mavidisk-reader thingy would look in my Stack?!!! Heheheh grrrrrrr.... When were those mavidisk cameras and readers released!!! I want one! I finally optimised the convergence (I think) on my 1976 Trinitron! It is a control called "H STAT" (a pot sticking out a really fat grey box) and now the picture is really cool! You'd never think that it is a 26 year old TV from how sharp it is! hee hee.. fiddled with "H POS" and centred the picture. Oh WELL,,, sean if anything interessting like that comes on again, TELL me!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 10th December 2:44 am U.K. Time

HEHEH thanks, God! I found one just like yours, Sean http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944394684

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 10th December 2:58 am U.K. Time

You certainly did!!! MIne has "Ears" on it... I might get a Rack just ofr it and The TBC. Occasionally the Rack Ears for Sony Betas turn up. I wonder if my VO-5850 has ears... I have to ask the guy who has it!

Sean


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 10th December 3:31 am U.K. Time

To Madness...

I wonder if you got any of the recordings that went with that VCR-7300? Would be interesting to hear what they used them for...


Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Tuesday 10th December 8:26 am U.K. Time

SO, would anybody be interested in a Sony BMC 550 Beta-mie?? It needs alittle work; like the auto focus don't work and the lens assy needs to be replaced. It comes with a Sanyo VRC 500 parts camera, lens assy is good and the AF works. Also included is a Sony 3 battery charger and one NP11 battery that holds a pretty good charge. This is the Beta unit with the SuperBeta switch hidden underneath by the Lithium battery. The unit is functional, but one of the inner lenses is a bit fogged. And as some of you might remember this is my BMRC 5550 Sony-yo camera. $50.00 plus shipping, from WI 54728.

Later. Pepse.


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Tuesday 10th December 9:41 am U.K. Time

Just a note. If you notice a fog, it's probably the infrared filter that sits right on top of the CCD assembly. Down under *all* the lenses. Pain in the arse to get to. But, can be replaced if you have a good one and the time and patience (note: a *lot* of patience).

Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Tuesday 10th December 10:36 am U.K. Time

Delayed thought: The infrared filter is a small rectangle piece of multilayered glass (three layers if I remember correctly) that filters out most if not all of the IR coming in. CCD's are more sensitive to IR than anything else. Without the IR filter you'd just get a black and white picture as the IR would overload the CCD compared to the individual colors (RGB). OTOH, if you remove the IR filter inside, and install an IR lens to your camcorder (which will filter everything *except* the IR) you can do some fun stuff. For starters, your camera will do better in dark scenes, and it will even "see through" certain fabrics and materials due to the way IR light relects and all.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 10th December 1:01 pm U.K. Time

me wants Betamie, hey, whoever got that stereo-looking Spamyo Hifi, if it has any news music send a MP3 of it to me!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 10th December 1:02 pm U.K. Time

oops, only saw that a betamie was offered and didnt see that it needed work.... nevermind-mie :)

Name: steve rowley
Email:
steve@srowley.fsbusiness.co.uk
Tuesday 10th December 3:28 pm U.K. Time

Hi, this is a UK message (would you believe it on a PAL site?).

Wanted: Sony SL-HF950. Will consider any condition, for spares etc. Can trade/swap C6/C7/C20/C30/F30.

Also wanted: reel motor assembly for C20.

Thanks.


Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Tuesday 10th December 6:51 pm U.K. Time

Beef Jerky, that must be what appears to be the second lens looking in from the front. Intersting thoughts on that changing the filter. If I had the time it would be a fun project. Patience ain't too much of a problem for me. That's just it, if I had the time it would've been repaired a long time ago. I started disassembling the parts cam and didn't get too much farther. I will include a copy of the service manual.

Later. Pepse.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 11th December 1:19 am U.K. Time

I am a happy man. Why? Because I nominate myself for a candidate for the "Sleech" Award.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15099&item=1943200815&rd=1

The draft of my acceptance speech is "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA". Thank you and good night.


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Wednesday 11th December 1:54 am U.K. Time

Check the Betalore site for your approving fans - since snailies are forbidden here...

Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmailthatdoesnotacceptspam.com
Wednesday 11th December 2:13 am U.K. Time

I am looking for the manual for my SL-HF550. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to program the tuner for cable channels. Does anybody have one they're willing to part with or copy? Thanks!

~Scott


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Wednesday 11th December 2:40 am U.K. Time

Sean:

Good score!!! I'm impressed (or is that depressed? *gggg*)

Scott:

I don't have a manual, but I can tell you how to program cable channels into that machine, it's a bit of a headache, but not impossible. NOTE: You can only program in up to cable channel 37 on that machine (which includes ch.'s 98 and 99)


Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmailthatdoesnotacceptspam.com
Wednesday 11th December 2:47 am U.K. Time

Brenda,

Yeah, I've discovered it to be a royal pain to program. All other decks I don't have problems with, but this one is a different story. That's a bummer that it only goes up to 37, as there are a few channels that I'd like to put in that are above 37, as most below it I don't want anyway. But the saving grace is that 37 is the history channel, and the deck is mostly used for playback from my 1000 and 9500.

On a side note, it seems people are either not willing to trade a 2100 for ED quality, or nobody really has a 2100 around. I just don't use the ED function, and for me it's overkill. I only have a few metal tapes, so the 9500 only usually records in SuperBeta.

~Scott


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 11th December 2:48 am U.K. Time

Well Brenda, here's how we'll do it. If that Editing goon won't talk to my SL-HF-900, I'll do one of two things: Trade it to Ray Glasser for the RMT-148 you wanted, saving you $50, or, just send it to you. I still need the actual $50... getting this whole thing together will take some time, I have three other packages to send you the remote is kinda low,... Sorry. Does anyone KNOW if that editing thing will work with my 900???

Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmailthatdoesnotacceptspam.com
Wednesday 11th December 2:51 am U.K. Time

A few more things that just came to mind: The 5800 I have seems to have some kind of video playback problem, where it displays grey fuzz on the screen. I think it needs new belts, as it is slow and doesn't fully expell the tape back into the cassette. Has anyone ever changed the belts on them here, and know where I can get them? Also, I picked up a great looking Zenith Sony 5800 clone, with remote. I haven't tested it yet, but the previous owner who I did some dubbing from Beta to VHS for here seems to have taken good care of it. All of the tapes that were given to me were sony, and alot were HG's. Anybody know anything about the Zenith video director clone?

~Scott


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 11th December 3:58 am U.K. Time

Changing the belts to that SL-5800 won't work as well as changing or cleaning/sanding the idler and idler post tires.

http://www.saitosite.com/av/av9912/pdrm2093.jpg

shows a good picture of an older belt drive betamax mechanism (in this case an SL-J9)

Here's another look... http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a78f28e7/bc/Goofy+Olive+stuff/betamechs.jpg?bcHnr99A6CuP8uUI

I've marked off the parts you'll need to work on if changing belts (which may be standard belts available at http://www.iglou.com/studiosound/index.htm ) doesn't help.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 11th December 4:00 am U.K. Time

by the way...

http://british.nerp.net/experimental/80s/vcr.html

is a page someone set up to describe growing up with a Zenith Betamax VCR.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 11th December 4:17 am U.K. Time

That Zenith page seems to be gone and Yahoo changed my pic address

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a78f28e7/bc/Goofy+Olive+stuff/betamechs.jpg?bc35r99AgwTP8uUI


Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmailthatdoesnotacceptspam.com
Wednesday 11th December 4:26 am U.K. Time

Thanks for the info Olive. Hopefully I can find some time to work on the 5800. I bought it mostly for nostalgic sake, as I grew up with a 5800 that my dad still has and wanted my own. It goes nicely with the Sony trinitron PLUS tube with "Supersonic wireless control" and lumisponder (broken unfortunatly, wish I could fix it). That old tv has been great, but as of the last few years, you have to "tap" it on the cabinet to keep the color correct on it until it has it's 30 min warmup. It's a KV-1942 btw.

~Scott


Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmailthatdoesnotacceptspam.com
Wednesday 11th December 4:27 am U.K. Time

One more thing...got really sick this weekend from food poisoning and missed checking on one of my ebay watch items. BMC-1000 in great cond. for $60. Damn!

~Scott


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 11th December 4:49 am U.K. Time

eeeee! - _@_v - did a search for that BMC-1000 as it slipped by my ta tracking radar. the thing had a shoulder mount!

Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmailthatdoesnotacceptspam.com
Wednesday 11th December 5:33 am U.K. Time

Please drop on by the new Beta Informer group page at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/betainformer/

~Scott


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Wednesday 11th December 1:03 pm U.K. Time

Only sony can make things sound so special... "Lumitron" lol sounds more like "lemontron." hehehehe I saw an old Zenith SPACE COMMAND remote at flee market, but was already tapped out cuz I bought 2 RCA real-reel tapes to feed my Tape-Corder. Hmmm.. I like the KV-series of monitors! Can you send a piccy, I think i already know what it looks like. Ummm... Yes! Olive can you provide link to betalore page, I have lost it. thanks

Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Wednesday 11th December 6:23 pm U.K. Time

Jesse, I presume that Zenth Space Command had the Telephone setup built in?? Did Sony or any other company have a Remote with telephone capabilities?? I remember a friend had a Zenith Tv with the remote with phone capabilities but they never tried it out. Then the TV died and they just tossed everthing.

Later. Pepse.


Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Wednesday 11th December 6:48 pm U.K. Time

Any ideas regarding the high prices for two recent Sanyo 4650's? I thought they were kind of garden variety, middle-of-the-line Sanyo models, but these bidders don't think so. Are they the HF300's of the Sanyo line of VCR's? Anybody here use one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942644444

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943199180


Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Wednesday 11th December 8:52 pm U.K. Time

Re: Old Zenith TV's with Space Command with or without built-in phone. The Zenith Chromacolor II series had a history of power supplies causing fires while turned "off" because the power supply still stayed active, waiting for the remote "on" command. Saw it on a "60 Minutes" type show so it must be true... The recommendation was that it was OK to watch one but never leave the thing plugged in after turning it "off". Nice wood cabinets but they burn real good. My cousin-in-law had one of these (and a fire insurance claim due to a living room fire of unknown cause). Get a Zenith Beta instead.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 11th December 9:37 pm U.K. Time

Hey Scott: Reading back, I have an HF550 and the original manual (even the reggy card!). I could scan in the whole page regarding the channel settings; say, MSWord XP format? I could even have the whole manual copied if you want one for the cost of printing & postage. Lemme know...

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 11th December 10:20 pm U.K. Time

BTW: If anyone's interested, here's a T-50ME "Color 5" multisystem deck on weebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944379996

Name: Scott Veazie
Email:
scottveazie@hotmailthatdoesnotacceptspam.com
Wednesday 11th December 10:37 pm U.K. Time

Madness- That would be great if you could scan the tuner setup section. MSWord XP will be great....please send to the following address: sveazie@attbi.combackformore

Sorry, Sean, for stealing your anti email address...it just seemed to work so well.

~Scott


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Wednesday 11th December 11:25 pm U.K. Time

hee hee that's why I put "webmaster@wards.com" not only because it's a title I would (have) like(d) to have, it's because it bounces all email sent to it. Hmmm Nope I dont know it was capable of telly-fone operation, it just had that little round window with a screen over it. Funny.. PyroTronic Command TV must have had GE power supplies, right Olive?

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 11th December 11:29 pm U.K. Time

Well I can see the snails have had a bad influence on prices. Saw some Betamovies (that generally go for around $50) with a start price at $150! So now crappy low end Sanyos are getting the gastropod treatment. Anyone looking into Beta as an inexpensive alternative to VHS will be roundly dissapointed I guess.

Almost tempted to slap a Beta logo on some boogity VHS machine and fob it off on some sucker - preferably a Snail. Anybody want my Panasonic "wide tape" 4 head "betamacks". It records Beta signals onto a VHS tape!!! Only $500 start bid!!!

I also have a Zenith "wide tape" 2 head "Betamacks"... and a good deal on a certain East River suspension bridge if anyone's interested ;o)

Here http://www.quicktopic.com/16/H/7L8CrFSk7E7 is the Betalore Chatpage for the one who lost their URL


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 12th December 12:52 am U.K. Time

Jesse, I think GE did OEM those Zenith 'TeeVee-que' telephone, barbeque grill and color TV combo units, but I can't be 100% positive on that...

GE, we bring good thing to grilling...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 12th December 1:06 am U.K. Time

I remember seeing ads for the space phone or whatever it was called, I'll have to go and look now in some magazines I have. Fortunately the ad was on the back cover so there's no paging through to hunt it down.

Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Thursday 12th December 1:31 am U.K. Time

I have to admit that it is getting a little silly on eBay. I noted "snaling" picking up what looked like a minty and complete HF300 with a BIN of $175. That's an okay price if you're going to use it yourself, but I don't get it as far as flipping this thing goes. He pays about $200-$210 to get the thing delivered, has to check it out, repackage it, add the extra things he adds to the auctions, and go through all the trouble to list, sell and ship it, and for what? The HF300's, even in mint condition, max out at around $250, even the mint condition ones. Of course, he is also depending on there being nothing wrong with the machine he's flipping. That's a helluva lot of work and risk for just fifty five bucks. I mean, I can see what he's doing, but I would think he'd pass on this one at that price. Ironically, it looks like the days of good quality $50-$60 Sony BIN's are probably gone for good, and perhaps he has to buy these. Victim of his own success, perhaps?

Keeping an eye on this one tonight to see if someone bites.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944960788


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Thursday 12th December 3:13 am U.K. Time

Frank, I own a Sanyo VCR-4650. I got it for $10 at a flea market. The idler tires are worn out and it is s-l-o-w at REW and FF. It is not really an equivalent SL-HF300 because it does not have Beta hi-fi, or Superbeta for that matter. It has 12-channel presets and is a very basic, stripped down VCR.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 12th December 5:06 am U.K. Time

Olive:

I've always kinda thought that GE had the wrong slogan with "We bring good things to life."

In light of the fact that they made the first electric chair, wouldn't it have been more appropriate for them to use "We put bad things to death."?


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 12th December 5:13 am U.K. Time

"ROTFLMAO"

I had one of those old Sanyo machines (THe second one, "Betacord" and it was AWFUL. they are very hard on tapes and generally poor performers. the SL-20 is nothing to write home about but it is worlds better than those old Sanyos.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 12th December 5:35 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2078690778

Somebody bid on this. it's a VHS built like a betamax. Really great machine. If I wasn't using all three of Sony's VTR codes allready I'd get this fella. Trust me, you'll love it.


Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Thursday 12th December 6:10 am U.K. Time

Hey Andy - I didn't mean to suggest that the VCR4650 was the equivalent of the HF300 (I see how it could have come across that way, and thanks for not laughing). I'm just a little confused that a Sanyo unit, which popular wisdom here indicates is pretty much the "anti-dream" machine, could get so much bidding attention. I was wondering if I might be missing something, and that maybe the 4650 was the sleeper of the Sanyo line that has some quality only real aficionados know about (I know; I'm silly). To me, the HF300 stands out as the Betamax that has best stood the test of time, in terms of being the best mix of durability, quality and value. They are the most commonly auctioned Sony Beta model to my knowledge, and almost without exception are in true working order at the time of the sale (at least according to the seller).

I think it may be what Olive suggested - that the actions of high price Beta sellers like lled, vcrgary, ziggi and someko (and their buyers, I would add) are starting to spill over into areas where buyers may be getting into a little trouble.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 12th December 6:46 am U.K. Time

minor note: VCRGary deals very little in Beta. His prices are usually more reasonable and if you talk to him in person he gives better deals, i.e. $100 for VO-5600, $75 for SLO-1400, etc, but he did do something dumb, try to sell an SLO-340 for $200... and he's a real tech, so stuff is actualy checked out... still not the best deal, but he's not out to screw people, either.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 12th December 7:32 am U.K. Time

Pardon mon francais.... but it really PISSES ME OFF when people list an item on ebay, then give you a list of conditions that rivals Santa's list.. My pet peeve is people that will ONLY ship UPS or FedEx.. I can only receive mail via USPS.. so that automatically lets me out of a lot of great auctions. Besides, I don't TRUST UPS. They have a nasty tendency to drop items off in front of your door if you are not home without getting any kind of signature.

And then there are the ones who, even if they will ship via USPS, will not ship to APO/FPO addresses. This lets out millions of customers that happen to be in service to their country overseas. And even a lot of the ones that WILL ship to APO/FPO's want to charge an extra $X (usually around $10) for shipping to them. This is just plain robbery, since the post office doesn't charge this. APO/FPO's are the same as shipping to anywhere in the lower 48. The shipping point for my own APO is San Francisco, so shipping from anywhere on the west coast is dirt cheap.

So much for my soapbox.. (which came about because of the VCR on ebay that Sean posted).


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 12th December 8:11 am U.K. Time

I would think "We bring good things to grilling" would seem all the more apprapos then...

by the way Thomas Edison invented the electric chair as an advertisement of the fact that Nikolai Telsa's and Westinghouse's AC current was too dangerous and that everyone should use GE's DC current. He did a lot of dmeonstrations frying various animals including an elephant to make his point.

However since DC current can't travel very far while AC can, AC won out. Westinghouse did manage to screw over Tesla in the meantime.

That SVO-140 seems to be a mono VCR and missing it's tape flipper door to boot. It's listed as "untested" which translates to "I bet it's a total loss, so I better cover my ass and not test it so I won't have to actually lie and say it works when I know it's a piece of junk..."

It's like Franny says, the people "who know their rights" are the worst kind of thieving weasels...


Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Thursday 12th December 8:21 am U.K. Time

I don't understand the problem with shipping to APO/FPO addresses. For shipping purposes, I thought it's exactly the same thing to the shipper as shipping to San Francisco or New York. What excuses do they give you?

On a separate issue, as for vcrgary, the fact that he does not sell many beta units is not even the point. For purposes of the issue at hand, beta, Umatic and betacam - what difference does it make? Item after item of his has to be relisted because his lunatic reserves are usually not met. And he relists at the same price/BIN/reserve. One example are the portable betacam units that are unusable as shipped, without the "easy to find" power supplies/adaptors (which evidently not easy enough to find that he can include one despite reserves/BIN's far in excess of what any non-reserve auction normally brings). He also scoops up BIN GCS-50's and flips them for $1-200 more without doing a thing to them. How you can carve out an exception in his case strikes me as reasoning that is suspect, and I have a hunch I know why.

You're not going to like this either - I put Andy Sanchez in that group, same as someko, ziggi, etc.. His reserves and BIN's are no lower than the others (except lled - he's on another planet). So you must see shades of difference that are not apparent to me.

I'd make book that if by some weird circumstance you crossed paths with "someko" and got a great deal from him, you would stop all your "sleech" crap in a New York minute.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 12th December 8:27 am U.K. Time

Well this would've been a nice find at any VCR shop...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1945063466

Unopened SL-HF 350 VCR left unsold from a VCR shop that had been in business since the 70s...

Keep looking fellow snails! That warehouse full of SL-HF 750s is around somewhere! - _@_v ==c{{{{{ [ ==技技O]


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 12th December 8:44 am U.K. Time

Frank,

They don't give an excuse, and you're right, it's the same as shipping to either coast, depending on whether it's an AP or AA extention. The auctions I see just flat out say "I do not ship to APO's, FPO's,(usually add)AK, HI, PR or PO Boxes.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 12th December 9:00 am U.K. Time

To be fair, Andy Sanchez may charge Snail rates but he services and warranties what he sells. And he has been forced to pay snail prices to get his parts betas so he's in the same boat as the rest of us.

But anyway any takers on my Panasonic or Zenith "wide tape" "Betamacks"? You won't have to buy Beta tapes to feed these machines, VHS tapes will run fine in them...

and if you can get that adapter you can stick Beta tapes in them and they'll work fine...

ask about the special deal I can give you on a New York to Kings county suspension bridge I've been retained as the selling agent for...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 12th December 1:47 pm U.K. Time

I put ANdy and VCRGary in a slightly different category because they actually know what they are doing, as opposed to Snaling who simply steals info from the infoguide, takes pretty pictures and sticks a new remote with the unit to make it look new. and yes, VCRGary has been known to charge rediculous prices. Don't swet over the power supply to a portapack, most use a plug-in battery and any suitable muti-volt adapter that puts out enough juice will power them through that. So you get something for your money from them. VCRGary was the last word in helpful when the SLO-1400 he sold me broke, telling me right where the problem was and how to fix it (IT worked) and offereing to replace it at no extra charge. And we all have a certain "Soft spot" for Andy because he gives nice prices on repairs.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 12th December 3:18 pm U.K. Time

Hey Andy! What do you suppose is wrong with this poor Beta?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1945091926

SL-HF 400 with a really wacky power on routine...


Name: Gary Haddow
Email:
Gary@haddow2584.freeserve.co.uk
Thursday 12th December 7:01 pm U.K. Time

Iam looking for Sony Betamax SL HF100 for spares also Sony C9 instruction manual .Hope someone can help

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 12th December 7:31 pm U.K. Time

Try this Dutch selling page for that Beta HF-100 http://www.marktplaats.nl/markt/video/betamaxrecorders.htm

I've seen one get listed here last month or so


Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Thursday 12th December 10:36 pm U.K. Time

Really, what's so bad about Sanyo 遝tas? My experince with them has been fine. I have three of them, VCR-4030, VCR-4027 and VCR-4650. I can see no difference at all in Super遝ta picture quality between tapes made on the 4030 and those made on my Sony SL-HF600. The 4027's picture quality, also Super遝ta, is maybe a tad lower than the 4030 and HF600, the colors aren't quite as brilliant. Still runs circles around VHS. And the 4650's picture quality is less than the others only because it's not Super遝ta. None of my Sanyos have the tape eating problem that is supposed to be an issue with them, and the 4650 is the only one that has shown any signs of rubber wear. I have decided to shelve that unit until I get around to ordering the parts from either diyvcrparts.com or studiosoundelectronics.com. The only areas where the Sanyos fall short of the Sony are special effects playback (The Sanyos are all 2-head but the Sony has a 3rd head for freeze and slow) and features. The thing that bugs me most about them is the tuners which have presets (14 for the 4030 and 12 for the others) instead of being able to tune in all channels like the Sony can. The 4650 and 4027 are both very basic, no frills VCRs, but the 4030 has some extra features like slow motion playback, OBR mode (same as Quick Timer on the Sony) and a 2-week, 8-event timer vs. the 1-week, 1-event timers on the other Sanyos and the 1-week, 6-event on the Sony. My complete Beta collection is: Sony SL-HF600, NEC VC-739E, Sanyo VCR-4030, 4027 and 4650. By the way, all that's wrong with my VC-739E is that the belts are so worn out it can't thread the tape without me turning the threading ring by hand, and once threaded it won't FF, REW or Picture Search because the idler tire is worn out. I emailed diyvcrparts.com and they said they didn't have new rubber parts for NEC Betas. Does anyone know who does or if not, has anyone ever used that "rubber rejuvinator" stuff to recondition the rubber parts of a VCR? Does it really work? I'd really like to get my VC-739E working because if working it would be the highest-end 遝ta VCR in my collection with multispeed slow-motion, audio dubbing etc.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 12th December 11:02 pm U.K. Time

What always worked at least as well as the expensive 'rubber rejuvenator' was to coat the rubber idlers in brake fluid. The belts will work sometimes, but usually they have been stretched beyond their limit.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Thursday 12th December 11:33 pm U.K. Time

krap...... i woulda liked that SVOeHoS sony deck but it IS a mono and no videotape recorder in THIS house (besides the SL-2000 and VP-5000) can be mono!!! and it doesnt look like Im gonna get the MaviPak still recorder. :( :( :( :( Sean if yours gets 'lost' I don't know ANYTHING about it... :) It might have been donated to the Wards Home For Wayward Mazda Millenia S-es and U-Matics and Other Generally Cast-Aside Electronics.... :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Friday 13th December 2:24 am U.K. Time

Hehheeh... For those of us who go Beta hunting during trash days, any chance for someone to leave a 1996-2002 Millenia S out on the curb when it's garbage day? Heheheheh or a whole off-line editing sweet? (suite, yes, but SWEET)

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 13th December 4:21 am U.K. Time

GE-ee, we had a big-ass snowstorm last night (which happened to be the trash night) and I come to find out a local video production house had stacked some old umatics on the curb like cordwood. Just my luck, the snowplow would bury the poor things before I could get a chance to attempt to rescue them....

I think the city will have to replace one of their plow blades...

P.S. just kidding....


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 13th December 4:24 am U.K. Time

Well, Jesse, it's not an impossible dream, remember what is on the bottom right of this page!

http://uk.geocities.com/redoctober7000/Photos1.html


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 13th December 5:05 am U.K. Time

Here's an interesting item for owners of either the SL-7200 or SL-8200 or one of the industrial Betas. It's a DT-30 timer module.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1978908425


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Friday 13th December 7:27 pm U.K. Time

ya lotsa big ugly top loading u-mies... :) Front loaders are waay better because you can stack them.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 13th December 9:44 pm U.K. Time

Those front loaders have no charm, the top-loaders with the beige panels, the wooden sides, now that was classic. except the weigh in at about 100 pounds. Have you ever seen a BVU-200??? it's a top-loader on steroids, the first "All-pro" umatic, it must weigh in at 150 pounds, and it's a good foot tall!

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 13th December 9:57 pm U.K. Time

Actually, I remember my high school library having one of those big old "boat-anchor" Umatic top-loader decks (may've been a BVU-200). Damn thing was like 2 to 3' wide and as you said, prolly 10-12" high. Also had (I think) the matching TV/Monitor -- a 19" Trinitron in huge woodgrained retangular box w/ rotary tuners. And to top it off, a huge labrary of Umatic tapes; mostly educational stuff. Surprisingly, there was ALSO a beta deck there, if I remember, an SLO-420.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 14th December 1:34 am U.K. Time

BTW: I've been looking for some alternatives for labels for my beta tapes in lieu of the RatShack discontinuing those labelling kits. Here's what I found: For one-third-window betacam tapes (i.e. Sony G's), 3" floppy-type for face labels; for full-window betacams (Sony K's) & regular beta's, Zip disk labels (floppy's are a bit too wide); and for both, Avery (or equiv.) file folder labels ("H x 2-3"L) for the spines. Thought I'd share. :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 14th December 1:49 am U.K. Time

hmmmmmm... Front loaders are more professional-looking to me. Top loaders remind me of when weather on the news was sticking little magnetic snowflakes to a board and you had to stick the temps on there too..... One of the local stations here used a dry-erase board for the rain forecast!!! ugh! :) :) Plus their recording quality isn't that great (I had a VO-1600 that died, and it wasnt that great).

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 14th December 2:10 am U.K. Time

THat's probably because the VO-1600 was a consumer unit, it had tuners and such, didn't it? the VO-2xxx series were the start of the pro line, before it dies my VO-2600 made a braodcast grade picture- if not for the machine noise you could've fooled someone into thinking it was live TV.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 14th December 2:15 am U.K. Time

Since ASCII snails aren't allowed...

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/olive_e_thomas/vwp?.dir=/Goofy+Olive+stuff&.src=ph&.dnm=X-mas_snailie.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/olive_e_thomas/lst%3f%26.dir=/Goofy%2bOlive%2bstuff%26.src=ph%26.view=t

fun with X-mas presents under the tree...


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 14th December 2:18 am U.K. Time

Only the top half of that link works...

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/olive_e_thomas/vwp?.dir=/Goofy+Olive+stuff&.src=ph&.dnm=X-mas_snailie.jpg&.view=t


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 14th December 3:51 am U.K. Time

Eeeeee! Frankenbeta!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1945461561

Snail-eko musta cobbled together an SL-HF 300 and SL-HF 500 and is calling this a 'like NEW' silver SL-HF 500. If you look carefully at the transport controls you'll see that the frame advance features aren't marked off like they would be on a real SL-HF 500.

The Snail is gettin' sneaky in his old age. And when is he gonna run out of those damned RMT-151s? Did he like find a warehouse full of 'em? Where is this warehouse and is it near that SL-HF 750 warehouse?


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 14th December 5:45 am U.K. Time

got both my 750's for $150 each from that kinda situation.both worked perfectly except i had to re-enable the remote electronics and replace the led level meters.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 14th December 5:47 am U.K. Time

that was back in '98-'99.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 14th December 6:00 am U.K. Time

and there really was a load of 750's available for that price,previously used in a tape duplication facility.i heard of a similar deal with 900's or 1000's,unfortunatly,way too late!

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 14th December 5:50 pm U.K. Time

Speaking of surplus items...

This Sony BVV-1A Betacam VTR back was released as surplus from the White House. Was used for White House video production purposes during the Clinton administration...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1945627363

I leave you to make up your own jokes....


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 14th December 6:01 pm U.K. Time

Anyone in Italy looking for Beta equipment?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944724990

For an HVC-3000 and BMC-200


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 14th December 7:15 pm U.K. Time

dieeeeeeee! I want that sorta betacam docking recorder! Plus I want the huge Sony camera head with the 3CCD and HyperHad stickers on them! There's a camera at channel 4 that I saw, it has two cat-eyes next to the HyperHad sticker, lol, it's kinda cute. Betamie with kitty eyes :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 14th December 7:29 pm U.K. Time

eeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEE!!! Dammit! Off topic, but do any of you remember those "plunger" Panasonic 8 track players? They were the ones that looked like a little detonator.. and are called "dynamite" on ebay. I found one dead at my great-gram's house, it was in a trash pile at the back of the house and had apparently been outside for a couple years. I brought it home and flushed it out (still smells like rotting cat food), and let it dry out in the sun a couple days. I flushed it out beause it was wet anyways and looked really bad. I cleaned up its case and powered it up... The volume pot is shot, it just turns round and round with a grinding noise. The head has rust, just like the capstan, and the motor still runs, although squeakily. I looked on snail-bay today and see them going for $50 and up..... grrrrrrrr!!! dammit! Why can't I ever stop getting the short end of the stick? First with not having a Beta family... erf! Now, to bring my post on topic, I want to ask if my SL-HF300's "when first plugged in" routine is normal: When plugged in it unthreads the tape, waits, then threads it back, unthreads halfway, and threads fully. When inserting a tape it threads fully, retracts 1/4 the way, and threads fully again. Olive said that it was the 300's equivalent to stretching when you wake up. Cute, but true! lol...... :) Anyone got any info?

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Saturday 14th December 7:29 pm U.K. Time

The 300's "wake-up" routine isn't a problem with me, I just wanted to know.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 14th December 8:00 pm U.K. Time

Olive, hmm, sounds hokey ta me. I've never seen an all-silver HF500. Most of the 500's I've seen (including the one I own) are usually all black except for a two-tone front panel (i.e. the lower sloped part w/ the buttons & stuff is all silver) and occaisionally I've seen an all-black-front 500. I'd say he took a silver 300 and slapped the flip-door from a black/silver 500 on it. So this a****le takes a two-head deck and makes it look like a 3-head and slaps a reserve & a $315 BIN on it? PFFFFFBBFFFFFBBFFTT!!! :,-'*^-~.'

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 14th December 8:28 pm U.K. Time

If you look at image http://www.msu.edu/user/ho/256.jpg for that SL-HF 500 you'll see that the back panel indicates it's an SL-HF 500. Perhaps The Snail took the fa峚de and cover from a silver SL-HF 300 and slipped it on an SL-HF 500 keeping only the 500's flipper door. (somewhere there's an naked SL-HF 300 - assuming the 500's original clothes were no good) I wonder what would wreck the fa峚de of an SL-HF 500 so bad that it needs changing but leave the flipper door intact.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 14th December 9:07 pm U.K. Time

Well, my Mavicam came. Huge, heavy affair, but it's a true SLR. No in-camera playback, good thing I got the player. I have sent the payment for it and it should arrive soon. Whoever designed the package for the Mavipak disks also designed the packages for the old Sony Open-reel videotapes. http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/thequest/sonydisks.jpg?allow_mailing_list=1&owner_id=125078&allow_track_link=1&track=0220977c9e-1e896&pt=bidpay

http://www.labguysworld.com/Tape-H-Inch_003.jpg


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Sunday 15th December 2:05 am U.K. Time

Wasn't somebody in here looking for an industrial VCR of that *OTHER* format? This one looks pretty good, and so far I don't think anyone's bid on it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21168&item=1944790512


Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Sunday 15th December 2:18 am U.K. Time

Hmmm. On that HFranken-500, maybe it is the original faceplate, but the Frame legends were worn away when, oh, I don't know, maybe when HE STOOD THE DECK ON IT'S FACE to photograph the top of the unit? Eeeeeyikes!

Those RMT-151s were a dutch auction a long time ago at $3ea. The seller had 100 of them and, if I recall, sold 40, 20 to snaling. So he may have bought up to 80 of the things.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 15th December 2:31 am U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21166&item=1943571708&rd=1

My latest conquest. I think that remote is VERY cool. but who wouldn't. A friend of mine said that trying to do professional stuff with VHS was like trying to run a trucking company with a Yugo. Using one of these machines would be like doing it with a very well built Yugo.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 2:49 am U.K. Time

eeeeewww... I dont want a Penisonique VeHoS.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 15th December 4:23 am U.K. Time

Even though it's Just a Vehos Crapbox, it's nice that you beat VCR Garysnail too get it. But why couldn't the seller test this? Couldn't find a VHS tape? I see dead VCR...

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 15th December 4:26 am U.K. Time

Usually that just means "I'm a lazy B*stard who can't be bothered to do anything more than plug it in" or that it doesn't have RF connections and he has never seen a BNC before in his life.

Name: T J Bedi
Email:
tomtigger1@juno.com
Sunday 15th December 7:17 am U.K. Time

I have 6 boxes of Beta tapes, for which I have no use. I'm glad to know there are others who maintain an active interest. They were given to me by a friend who was an electronics engineer at U. C Berkeley for 40 years. I have no idea what the cash value is on them. If you can advise me, I'd appreciate it very much.

The tapes are new, unused, sealed: Fuji 1 box L750, Sony 2 boxes Dynamicron L750 ES/BH, Scotch 2 boxes EG+ L750,Memorex 4 tapes L750, Sony 1 tape ES/L750,BASF 5 tapes Chrome extra quality. 10 tapes / box = 60 tapes total

If interested, email or phone 707-643-8089 Vallejo, Calif 94591


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 15th December 8:14 am U.K. Time

I'd really have no use for a VHS these days, pro or otherwise. I do have a Sony SVO-1710 pro hifi deck that saw most use for duping rental tapes to beta (thought maybe a pro deck would output a better signal than consumer, haha). Now I do DVDs almost exclusively. So the VHS's are not doing much these days except acting a dust magnets. ;)

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Sunday 15th December 8:21 am U.K. Time

TJ Bedi,

I'll give you $25 for the case of Fuji tapes (plus shipping, of course). You might be able to get a few bucks more for the case on ebay, but again you may not, and you'd have to pay them for the honor of listing them.

Brenda Ann


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 3:21 pm U.K. Time

for those who were talking about a PRO-X tape... Looks like a betacam shell. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1981840452

and for those who wish to donate a christmas present to the poor children at the Wards Home For Wayward Mazda Millenia S-es and Other Outcast Professional Electronics... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15099&item=1944483738&rd=1 or! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3319&item=1944394684&rd=1 or! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874879999 hee hee hee....


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 3:53 pm U.K. Time

Or even better.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3696&item=2081524978&rd=1

a Snalicon Grafix monitor that I reeeally want!


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 3:54 pm U.K. Time

Well, not ME... the children of the home, actually :) :)

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.com
Sunday 15th December 4:20 pm U.K. Time

TJ-I'll give you $20 each for the cases of Sony tape. I agree with Brenda-you might get a little more or a little less on eBay, but you'd have to pay for the listing and wait for the auction to end...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 15th December 5:38 pm U.K. Time

Well as to the tapes, I was gonna go for a case of Sonys, I'll have to settle for a case of Scotch (he he he) so I offer $15 which is too much because scotch tapes are lousy but new is better than used. Jesse, stay away from Rocker-boy, he sold me a JVC SVHS deck that turned out to be deader than snail droppings, he probably fished the trashcans at a place and gets these to sell as-is. As to copying I don't have a DVD player and I need to make VHS tapes for my silly friends and family who use VHS... And, Jesse, stay away from foreign cars. this is (One of) my (More realistsic) dream cars:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874770208

This has the same V-8 as the corvette. it will pass anything but a filling station.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 6:16 pm U.K. Time

Well, Sean... I dun like BUICKS (big-ugly-indestructible-car-killers :)).. An Olds Alero would be fine. Heheh a Buick Reatta with the touch screen CRT inside. Hey Sean did you also see that tasty U-mie? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15099&item=1944483738 It's a VO-9850.... Just as good to me as BVU-800, although I'd like something with a TBC. I want to bid on the u-mie.. a VO-10000 would be cool, lol if it existed. A secret government informant told me that the smoky guy may bid on the 9850... If he does I'll go half with him on it.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 6:18 pm U.K. Time

Well....... Also, Sean, have you driven a Millenia S? :) Drive one before u say to stay away from foreign cars. hehehe.. I also had a question. Has anyone succeeded in replicating the Multi-Connector bus on teh back of the SL-2000 so we can directly connect Line inputs to it?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 15th December 7:12 pm U.K. Time

well not yet, Jesse, since I have a dead SL-2000 it may be a good project. I've never driven a Millenia S but there is a universal reason to stay away from foreign cars, it's much harder to gets parts and repair. Well, about Buicks, I know someone who has a raetta with the computer, and it's really a nice car. And you're right, mostly, Big, Yes, Ugly, no, Indestructable Car Killers, yes! (I drive a 98 LeSabre and somebody made a mistake and turned in front of me, well, I drove home, and his car went away on the flatbed. So now I'll drive a big car for the rest of my life. But back on-topic, Anything later than a five-series Umatic will be a pain since the audio connectors are all XLRs you need $80-$160 in adapters to make it work AT ALL! and Just say no to that seller, with him "as-is" means "Broken".

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 15th December 7:14 pm U.K. Time

And I''m not AGAINST foreign cars, if I had everything my way I'd be driving one of these: http://www.americandreamcars.com/1979mercedes.htm

Name: W. G. B. Spender
Email:
smokeyguy@morleysfinetobaccoproducts.gov
Sunday 15th December 7:59 pm U.K. Time

Well what's wrong with a nice Crowne Victoria? Just remember to purchase the extended warranty...

Thanks for the tip on that Rockerboy snail Sean. no sense in paying top dollar for bottom of the barrel...

Will have to find something else from the surplus inventory clearance center, I suppose...


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 15th December 8:03 pm U.K. Time

Go here....

http://home.t-online.de/home/340054418855-0001/Betamax/SL-F1.html

for pinouts to the SL-F1/SL-2000


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Sunday 15th December 8:38 pm U.K. Time

Jesse, if you're gonna look for an SGI monitor, go for the GDM-20E21 or a GDM-90W11 24" widescreen since they're true multisync. The 20D11 will only work at certain resolutions and refresh rates. I have 2 20E21's and they're GREAT. Also, if you're gonna get one of those monitors, you really must get a nice SGI system to go with it, probably an Indigo2 or O2 or maybe even and Octane :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2078578758

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075770547

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2081644001

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080874384

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2079959856


Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Sunday 15th December 8:41 pm U.K. Time

As for cars, well I drive an '88 Mercury Cougar. Definitely under the big indestructable car killer category. But, not ugly.

Name: Jan H.Pedersen
Email:
bcc16571@vip.cybercity.dk
Sunday 15th December 9:52 pm U.K. Time

Sean Meskill you "Not"need $80-$160 in adapters to make it work Simply on the XLR connectors solder pin-1 and pin3 togehter and use them as grund. Pin 2 have the audiosignal Regards Jan

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 11:01 pm U.K. Time

eeeee.. But a BuickVU-800 i mean BVU-800 looks so neat... I mean WOULD look so neat in my house! Oh well. I think Buicks and Olds-es are the car equivalent of u-matic. LOL, imagine a 50's Buick hearse with a BVU-800 as the stereo.. LOL! It would fit, I imagine. Oh, well.. I'd rather go with a foreign than a huge Detroit roadmonster because Japan is on the Kyoto treaty and cares about emissions and fuel consumption; we don't. All because of that moron George Bush didn't want to sign the Kyoto treaty, claiming it would hurt industry or something. too bad! just cuz u like your suburbans doesnt mean we have to suffer. Heheheheh I wonder if anyone'll donate a 21" SGI monitor to the children at the Home... :) WOAI HAD a indigo Indigo 2, but its hard disk was severely fragmented and it crashed every time I had more than like 2 Netscrape windows open. They got rid of it in favour of a Dual G4 Mac... And they got rid of te BVU-900 in the offline edit suite! THey replaced all the good stuff with a Dual G4 with cinema display. Krap! I don't know where it went.. Someone told me they stripped it apart and cannabalised it. But what of the monitor? I want it!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Sunday 15th December 11:04 pm U.K. Time

GEe thanks for pointing me in the $200 up range. I saw like 3 of those O2s hiding under the "4Warn Storm Centre"... I guess they run the weather simulations.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 15th December 11:11 pm U.K. Time

Let me set you straight on a couple things, Jesse. 1: The Kyoto accords are NOT anything to help the environment, they are a way to try to kill the industries in small countries, because they could not afford the technology neccessary to meet the standards. What's more, Although George W. is clearly not a genious, he's not the moron he's made out to be, either. you have to be VERY careful about things that look like they protect the environment, for instance, certain regulations prohibit upgrades unless a set of standards are met, so, if the factory owner has enough money to upgrade system "X", he can't do it, even though the upgrade would reduce his polutant output, because regulations say he can't do anything unless systems "Y" and "Z" are upgraded too, and he can't afford that, so he just stays where he is. You have to try to see issues in shades of gray, not B&W. Usually someone is wrong and someone is more wrong, if that makes any sense.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 15th December 11:13 pm U.K. Time

Oh yeah, my Buick can get 30 MPG on regular gas and is so clean it's regularly "Green-screened" just like Hondas.

Name: Dean
Email:
dp149@hotmail.com
Sunday 15th December 11:40 pm U.K. Time

Sony SuperBetamax HF-400. Original Remote. Roughly 30-40 Beta tapes. Some sealed new (blank). Factory movies and head cleaner. Would like to get $175.00 or best offer. Email dp149@hotmail.com for more details.

Thanks


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 16th December 12:34 am U.K. Time

TJBedi: Since it looks like all the other packahes of tapes have offered, I'll take the "odd's n' end's" package; the Memorex/Sony/BASF. Take $15 shipped for it? Lemme know....

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 16th December 12:45 am U.K. Time

I gotta admit I sorta like those foreign cars myself. We have an old US air force surplus 1959 Cadilac/Superior Ambulance. Got it a accident last year when we rear-ended a 40 years it's junior 'SUV'. Those 1950's bumpers can sure do a lot of hurting.

Name: BeefJerky
Email:
beefjerky@starlynx.com
Monday 16th December 1:06 am U.K. Time

Re: The O2's. Yep, they probably are for the weather simulations. They're very commonly used for that, I know the weather channel did until they went to Octanes. A bunch of TWC's rackmount O2's were on ebay awhile back (all metal exterior, they sure don't look like the normal breadmaker O2's). The O2's do have incredibly good quality video capture and video output. I'd never give mine up, nor my Indigo2. Except for maybe an Octane2 :)

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 16th December 1:17 am U.K. Time

Like the Ghostbusters' ambulance, Franny? ;)

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 16th December 1:40 am U.K. Time

That would be about right...

Especially when hauling the various test equipment and the 'Texas Walkman and Palmcorder' for a field experiment...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 16th December 2:12 am U.K. Time

Franny, will you marry me? I LOVE Cadillacs! They are tied with Imperials and Lincols as my favorite cars! I came VERY close to buying a 1966 Cadillac "60-Special Fleetwood Brougham", which is like this: http://www.americandreamcars.com/1966fleetwood2002.htm

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 16th December 2:13 am U.K. Time

Saw this lovely vintage 'import' recently...

http://images.ofoto.com/photos286/7/11/93/13/97/0/97139311703_0_ALB.jpg

eeeeee! me wants!


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 16th December 2:16 am U.K. Time

Tony Soparno would be proud of your taste in fine Cadilacs. You could fit a good sized Mafia family of bodies in that car's boot. And still have room for the tools you need to bury them...

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 16th December 2:28 am U.K. Time

You know that big Red Chevy Suburban that Tony Soprano drives, well, my dad drives the EXACT same truck! right down to the color of the interior. The scary thing is we're from New Jersey.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Monday 16th December 3:09 am U.K. Time

new feature in ghostbuster ambulance: BVU-800 Sound System by Sony with bose speakers :) lol! hehehe.. Yes, I'd bet it would cause a lot of damage hauling the Texas walkman and pocket-vidi-corder... A couple Betamies buckled in in the front seat.. LOL! awwwwww! An an octane and SL-2000 in child seats in the back :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Monday 16th December 3:10 am U.K. Time

Well, I guess the only huge car from the 70s I'd drive would be the Eyewitness News satellite truck, or the red Caddy from Touched By An Angel :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Monday 16th December 3:20 am U.K. Time

Oh, yes, did I forget to mention I got the C7 GE Mercury Vapour Christmas Tree Lamps? Geez, one would think they were mercury vapour by how hot they burn.... I also sleeched a Transaudio 3850 (not sure of model #) stereo 8-trax player/recorder... I cant believe ppl said 8 trax sucked! they were cool... u should hear the audio after it's routed through my yamaha dsp-1 dolby surround-surround sound processor !!!!!!!!!!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 16th December 3:27 am U.K. Time

Well if you like Christmas lights I've got the ones for you, try C6 lights, they were the famous "If one goes out the all go out" lights. I have some. Check here.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=739967909


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 16th December 4:36 am U.K. Time

That has to be a pretty small tree to use only nine lights. At least you could wire a menorah...

It's not a Christmas tree - it's a Hanukkah bush...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 16th December 5:08 am U.K. Time

You used a LOT of them on one tree, the small size made it easy to find which buld was out, however. They made little things that you put two bulbs in instead of one and they NEVER went out. Clever.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 16th December 5:17 am U.K. Time

Better a Chanukkah bush than a George W. Bush..

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 16th December 5:22 am U.K. Time

Does NOBODY like him? or was that just a joke? Ah well, I can't hate any of you, you're all here because you like Beta.

Name: Frank
Email:
frank@iamk.org
Monday 16th December 7:17 am U.K. Time

Hey, gang - take a look at the content and conduct of the Betacam, Umatic and V2000 chat pages.

Then take a look at you have been posting here. Especially today.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 16th December 7:45 am U.K. Time

Well, we've been talking about Umatic, politics, Cars, Christmas lights, computers, video monitors, oh, and something called Betamax too ;) I get the picture. Since I'm as guilty as anyone, all I can say is "let's not make a habbit of it" G'night.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Monday 16th December 11:34 pm U.K. Time

Ya all the ppl on the betamie-cam, u-mie, and v2000 boards are prolly just a bunch of stiff grizzled video techs who've been in video since real-to-reel video.. :) We're more fun cuz we're the 'kids' from the 80s :)

Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Monday 16th December 11:45 pm U.K. Time

Christmas tree lights??

Strange. Anyone getting a beta for chrissy? a C7 maybe?


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 16th December 11:52 pm U.K. Time

Thinking of getting myself an SLO-325 for Christmas.. course, it would be a month or so late getting here.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 17th December 12:17 am U.K. Time

I gotta agree with Jesse, we're just having fun. I will issue a "General caution" that we be careful not to degrade into insults or other tradings of shots, but we're here because Betamax ties us together; Mac and PC users, Liberals and conservatives, English, American, or Europeans, one generation and another, so let's just have a good time!

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 17th December 12:18 am U.K. Time

Getting back to beta stuff, they opened a new Goodwill in my area and I got lucky. There' was a huge box of videotapes in the back (most the other format), but a bit of digging landed me 17 Sony Betacam 30's w/ cases. But that's not all! At the very bottom of the bin, there were TWO 10-packs of surplus tapes; they have "Prop. of U.S. Govt." stamped on the sides; L-370's (odd one's) and are a *very* light blue! They're shrinkwrapped in brick-packs. Not a bad score all-in-all. :)

Name: W.G.B Spender
Email:
smokyguy@cia.gov
Tuesday 17th December 1:55 am U.K. Time

Those are mine. Return them at once to your nearest CIA branch office.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Tuesday 17th December 1:57 am U.K. Time

Eeeeee!! The smoky guy wants his tapes back.... Or will there be a contribution to the Home.. The children only have 1 tape left that has some free space... They offer to pay you.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 17th December 2:04 am U.K. Time

HAs anyone heard back from the guy with the tapes to sell or do I contact him by Email?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 17th December 2:06 am U.K. Time

Jesse: You joked about "Mercury vapor" Christmas lights. Here's the real thing.

http://members.fortunecity.com/drg45nzp/litebulb.html


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 17th December 3:23 am U.K. Time

I wish you'd warned us there were going to be pop-up ads in that last link.

Hoping they open another circle of hell for the people who invented pop-ups and spam...


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 17th December 3:24 am U.K. Time

Contact him by e-mail, Sean. I've already sent him the $$$ for the Fuji tapes.

Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Tuesday 17th December 9:50 am U.K. Time

Hey, don't forget the Linux ppl. LOL. Seriously my favorite foriegn car is the '70's Ford Capri; excellent bang-for-the-buck, and more everthing than a Mustang II.

Ya know, I just realized that some of my Beta tapes are about 17 years old and just this past weekend I watched Pink Floyd, Live at Pompeii, and it plays and sounds as good as new. Only played it 30 or so times since I bought it in '85.for the low low price of $59.95 + tax and shipping. Whoa!!

Later. Pepse.


Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Tuesday 17th December 10:07 am U.K. Time

Re: Off-topic... The Betacam chat page stays on topic because somebody's job might be riding on an answer before the 6 o'clock evening newscast. (No disrespect but I just had this vision of lead story footage captured on a V2000 and no chat page solution at 5:57 pm.) For us, Betamax is just an all-consuming hobby which causes others to whisper behind our backs. We need to invent these other interests and practice talking about other topics on this site so we can talk about non-Betamax things in "their" world. It is the only way we can avoid being locked away by a world that no longer understands our love of a consumer product that was built to outlast Billy Ray Cyrus. We compromise by talking about durable products they still accept, such as Buicks and Mazdas. But when they see my 2.2 Litre Turbo 7-seat Stretch Limo Chrysler K-Car they finally understand (that I need to be put in a quiet room somewhere).

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 17th December 2:10 pm U.K. Time

Well, I think you're right. and I'm envious of Pepse for having a tape of Pink Floyd live at Pompei. All I have is a VERY much used rental of "The Delicate sound of thunder" on that other system. HOWEVER it's short enough to go on an L-750 at BIs, so, Pepse, I'm willing to copy if you are, let me know what tracks are on your tape, you should be able to figure out my Email unless you're a machine intelligence.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 17th December 2:12 pm U.K. Time

Well when say, black people gather together do you think all they talk about is the colour of their skin? Do Mexicans only talk about the grammatical nuances of Espanol ? We Beta people are just as much an ethninc minority as any other nowadays. That our identity is built around a commercial product doesn't make it any less a social phenomenon. That 'The Man' to us is a more dominant media format doesn't make our grievences agaist him any less pressing...

We are entering a new phase in cultural evolution....


Name: David A.
Email:
avideo@earthlink.net
Tuesday 17th December 7:22 pm U.K. Time

Hi To Everyone! I haven't been reading or posting any message for a while. However, I DID NOTICE that a few of you are looking at or considering the purchase of some older commercial Beta, 3/4", or VHS equipment. And as someone who owns lots of current model commercial recorders, I think I should caution anyone considering the purchase of any of these old clunkers to consider what you are buying. There is LOTS of old commercial gear around in very poor condition. In many cases - particularly gear from the 80s - new parts are difficult if not impossible to find. And even if you can find a good used part, there is no guarantee it will will function the same way a new part will. After all, it may be coming from an item in eqully bad (if not worse) conditon. I will not even discuss the subject of finding competent and reliable repair people to work on commercial gear. Suffice it to say, that even in the top 25 TV markets it is difficult to find a decent tech to work on VCRs anymore. (There are, however, lots of "hacks" who will hang onto your gear for weeks on end and still not completely "fix" your equipment.) As for duplication equipment, I'm always amazed at the number of sellers on E-Bay who NEVER post the number of hours that duplication VCRs have been used. Almost ALL commercial duplication equipment has some type of read out that dislays the actual hours it has been used. Anyone trying to sell Beta or VHS duplicators without indicating the number of hours of use is simply selling tired, old gear that has been run into the ground. Or worse yet, is selling gear that costs more to repair than it is worth. So maybe before you jump on that old 1985 Beta Editor - think about a few of the above items before you bid.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 17th December 7:31 pm U.K. Time

Well as much as I think Hour meters are an neat idea for logging your VTRs use, they plug out just like a fuse in most cases, unlike the odometer in a car, which is tamper evident, you can even put the meter in backwards to clock it down, this is regualr practice once they pass 1000 hours, so you never know how long a given machine has been in service. The General Wear and Tear are a better indicator. HOwever, Edit decks are usually run into the ground with the cue/synct/play or record/cue/stop cycle, so anything sold as an edit suite that's got any obvious use is probably a no=no. A friend of mine is a VTR tech and he says he's seen piles and piles of new edit decks run into the ground in a year, requiring massive overhauls. FOr instance my SLO-1400 was a duplicator, and, though it shows about 800 hours on the gauge, it's physically beat but when I had it playing (Blown fuse, no mechanical issues) it played like you'd expect from a commercial machine.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 17th December 11:37 pm U.K. Time

I got an SLO-1800 w/ about 700 hours on the meter (200 or so of them added by me). Only problem I had was blown fuse that a trip to the RatShack took care of. Also had to flip the "hidden" Superbeta switch inside the unit. But I think that "Beta Tank" w/ just keep on recording. ;)

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Wednesday 18th December 12:47 am U.K. Time

Nobody in my family has ever used the "PCM" function on our SL-HF600 in the 17 years we've owned it. I'm thinking about doing some PCM recording with it now, though. Who here has used the PCM function on your 遝ta? How does the sound quality of PCM compare to that of regular 遝ta hi-fi? And how many channels is it-is it still stereo or can you get multichannel surround sound out of it?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 18th December 12:51 am U.K. Time

NOw I don't know anything about this but I presume that if you fed the PCM encoder a stereo source with encoded surround from a videotape/videodisc/whatever the encoded surround would go with the signal, but you'd really have to ask a Sony technician who knows where the encoded surround is on the audio signal and if the PCM recoder translates that to video.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 18th December 1:35 am U.K. Time

The Japanese did have a Beta HiFi with a built-in PCM encoder, the PCM-HF10. It's a nice little machine but as far as I know, was not made available in the US. Betamax.TO has a picture of one in the Archive section, in the SL-HFR subsection.

The PCM/captions switch in the back of Sony VCRs was for turning off the dropout compensator so that PCM (or closed caption) recordings would play properly. The dropout compensator, when an error on the tape is found, takes the previous line from the signal and puts it over the error.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Wednesday 18th December 1:42 am U.K. Time

Stingy japs!

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 18th December 2:58 am U.K. Time

Will some lucky Brit be getting this under their tree?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1946301890

SL-F1 and TT-F1


Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Wednesday 18th December 8:17 am U.K. Time

Well Sean, I guess I am a machine intelligence. So-o-o-o, send me an email so we can get to business. Just for a teaser all the songs are PRE-Dark Side of the Moon; original copyright is 1972. I used to have the Delicate Sound of Thunder vid but somehow misplaced it. I was at that concert in '87 in Minneapolis, MN. So, yes I will definately trade a copy of DS of T for Pompeii.

On another note, does anybody have a copy of Alice Cooper's "The Nightmare"? It was a Holloween TV special from '75 and I used to have the Beta copy until it took a hike with DS of T. Basically The Nightmare was a 90 minute music video of his Welcome to my Nightmare album.

Later. Pepse.


Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Wednesday 18th December 6:48 pm U.K. Time

Not me olive I have a fully working one with hvc2000p camera and portable power supply unit :) (and manuals)

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 18th December 11:41 pm U.K. Time

Regarding the PCM post, to use the PCM function, you need an outboard PCM processor, like the Sony PCM-F1. It simply connects to the video I/O jacks and essentially turns the Beta deck into a DAT recorder. The PCM-F1 accepts digital audio data and converts it into a black & white video signal (i.e. black=0; white=1; for binary code), which is recorded on the tape (doesn't matter whether the beta deck is hifi or mono, no actual audio is recorded). Playback is just the opposite and produces CD-quality digital sound. I have one and used up some L-125 & L-250 tapes by recording audio on 'em. And a friend of mine in a Goth band uses a PCM-F1/SL-2000 combo to archive audio masters once they're done.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Thursday 19th December 12:00 am U.K. Time

Thanx for the advice on the PCM function. The SLV-R5UC I won in an eBay auction arrived today. It is truly the best VCR I've ever used. All tapes I have tried look great on it-VHS, S-VHS, S-VHS ET, SP, LP, EP, hifi or mono. Playing with the jog/shuttle and scanning at different speeds is fun. It is the only VHS-based VCR I have that has peak level meters for the audio, the only other ones I have that have them are the 遝ta hi-fis. The different command modes is great because then I can make an editing team of my CCD-TRV87 camcorder (VTR2) my SLV-751HF VHS (VTR3) and the R5 (VTR1). (The camcorder to record and play back the raw home video footage, the R5 to create an S-VHS edit master, and the 751HF to make VHS copies of the master for family and friends) The remote in itself is like a handheld mini-computer, with an LCD display on it that reads out the date, time and other information. The only drawbacks I can find are that there are no insert editing buttons on the unit, only on the remote, you can't see the time display on the unit with the front panel closed, the calendar only runs through 2005, and the power supply does get hot, as some people mentioned. Also me and my parents got a kick out of the fact that the manual uses a 遝tamax VCR as a pair-up unit on the diagrams of editing hookups. The manual is dated 1990 so it was 2 years after Sony announced it would add VHS decks to its VCR line-up.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 19th December 12:34 am U.K. Time

The Manual for my SVO-140 also shows a Betamax VCR as a hookup example. an 840 or 860 "D" model. The 140 is the best VHS machine I've owned. only problemn is it's not HiFi. Otherwise it's very much like my 900.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Thursday 19th December 12:53 am U.K. Time

Yes, I think my R5 manual shows one of the "D" Betas... the one with the front A/V input on the right?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 19th December 1:10 am U.K. Time

Yes. but it's not the 870 because that has woodsides and it's not the 810 becase that's mono.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Thursday 19th December 1:25 am U.K. Time

eeeeeeee!!!! hmmmmmm.. The children of the Home are quite anxious for their Christmas presents. Ooooooooo the SLV-R5UC is a nice deck!!!! me wants one now!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Thursday 19th December 1:35 am U.K. Time

I also wonder if after 2005 it will go back to some obscure date such as Friday, January 01, 1904 or Monday, August 27, 1956... :) Mac owners know these dates if their PRAM batties have died. Hmmm... Oh WELL....

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 19th December 1:42 am U.K. Time

Well Since when I spent my time taking MACs apart (I have LOTS of MAC parts here, to support my G3 as it becomes legacy. not that I do anyting with it....) I have lots of those batteries, ther are now lots of motherboards that will show those dates. My SVO-140's date stops at I think 2005 also, I wonder what date it will think it is then. Probably 1990, but there is a cycle of years that ahve the dates the same so all I'll have to do is match it and then the only problem that might be is Timer recording around the change of the years. Oh, and everyone here with PCs, turn off the automatic clock adjust for DST and do it yourself. the clock change has been known to cause issues with many programs.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Thursday 19th December 3:04 am U.K. Time

The 15-year calendar is my only complaint with Sony VCRs, other than that they beat the crap out of all other brands of VCR I've used (Sanyo, NEC, Panasonic, RCA and Zenith) in terms of both performance and features. The calendar on the R5 is 1990-2005 and on the SLV-751HF it's 1993-2008. The SL-HF600 遝ta has no internal calendar. Both my Penisonics (PV-9451 and PV-VS4821) both have calendars that run through 2096, which is pretty funny in the sense that their cheap plastic mechanisms will have fallen apart long before that and the Sonys might actually still be running provided Sony keeps making routine replacement parts and provided anybody bothers to keep a videotape machine around then. Maybe in a musem somewhere.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 19th December 3:42 am U.K. Time

Kill telemarketers! Die! Die! Die!

Download this file...

http://home.attbi.com/~dakine/sound/tones.wav

at this page...

http://home.attbi.com/~dakine/defeat.htm


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 19th December 4:14 am U.K. Time

Well I'll have one around then, if I'm around then. Think about it. We're not just clinging to Betamax because it's the best, when it has some serious competitions, but we just like it. I like my tape machines, I'll use them forever. I've costomized my computer to the point where I'll probably never upgrade the whole thing at a go anymore, I can add hard drives ad infinitum, on the SCSI and IDE controllers, I could have around 20 hard drives. I wonder, what does a computer do when it runs out of drive letters? Does it go to typographical symbols?

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 19th December 5:03 am U.K. Time

I've seen it once, Sean.. it does the same thing that your cable channels do... starts over at AA and goes to ZZ. After that, I have no idea. But, that problem gets put off every few months with increases in the size of HDD's.. I started out with a 1.8GB drive in my machine, running doublespace to get 3.6GB worth of data on it... then it crashed.. OUCH. Next drive I owned was a 4.6GB, then a 10, 30, 40, 45, 60, 80, 100, and now I have a computer with 2 120GB drives, three 100GB and an 80GB, plus my 48x16x48 CD-R/RW and a 2x DVD-R/RW. That first PC only had 32MB of RAM, this one has 512MB, which is all that Windows based OS' can deal with (I've had as much as 1GB in here, and although the MB and Windows could see it, it errored out all the time.)

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 19th December 5:04 am U.K. Time

Well on Macs you only get 7 SCSI addresses - six after you count the computer. I think there's a fixed limit on PCs too

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 19th December 5:09 am U.K. Time

And I use Betamax because I've been using Betamax and I see no reason to change now....

When DVD-RW costs under 100 maybe I'll deign to start using it...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 19th December 6:11 am U.K. Time

I"ve had very litle luck with optical disc recordings so I'll stick with tape as long as it satisfies me. I had gotten to wondering about that when I realized my SCSI card could address someting like 16 devices (THANKS BRENDA!) and I think you can get 4 on an IDE and another 4 at least on the floppy bus, so I got to thinking, just how would it work...

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 19th December 8:04 am U.K. Time

In my machine, my IDE devices are pretty much only limited by the number of PCI slots I have open.. I buy expansion cards for Ultra ATA-133 drives, and that gives me four more IDE channels per card.. of course, you have virtually unlimited drive capabilities with USB2, but what a mess... can you just imagine all those daisy-chained USB2 hubs???? ROFL!!!

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 19th December 8:08 am U.K. Time

Also, a standard SCSI card is 8 channels.. 0 through 7. That may be why that card can address 16 devices, because it has SCSI and SCSI2 ports on it.. I really don't know much about SCSI, I've never had more than a device or two connected to it.. BTW... I have a nice 12x SCSI CD-RW drive that I could let go pretty reasonably, or maybe trade for something interesting.. :) I think it's actually 12x write x 4x re-write by 32x read..

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 19th December 8:38 am U.K. Time

Anyone see the latest round of proposals for rebuilding the Trade Centre?

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/us/0212/wtc.site.rebuild/frameset.exclude.html

Here is a commentary I posted in my journal

http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=frannywentzel&itemid=28840

The original design was never very popular but looking at the defecation being offered today it comes off as the paragon of art and beauty...


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Thursday 19th December 9:24 am U.K. Time

You don't see a lot of these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1946555270

SLP-100 BI industrial player-only Betamax.

Already a snail has attached to it...


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Thursday 19th December 10:41 am U.K. Time

word on the street has it that the slvr5 was the best svhs that sony ever made and that it was discontinued only because it was too expensive to manufacture.

Name: Errant Whiner
Email:
stayon@topic.org
Thursday 19th December 12:58 pm U.K. Time

Why aren't we sticking to topiccccc hereeee guysssss?!!!! Take a look at the V2000, Betacam and U-matic pages for their conduct!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Thursday 19th December 1:00 pm U.K. Time

All of you say a prayer for me because in about 3 hours I'm dead! Our precal final is today and I might fail the semester! :(:(:(:(

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 19th December 4:33 pm U.K. Time

Too bad you don't have a text pager Jesse. I bet I could find a math professor to give you a little assistance.

"...if you, didn't know I would've taught you" Sobibor inmate to a young arrival he'd told to tell the guards he knew a trade.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 19th December 6:36 pm U.K. Time

I agree about the Trade Towers, Franny. None of the new designs look like buildings. (Well, maybe one does, a little) and they're all laughable. Anyhow, I tried to pry the snail off of the SLP-100 because it would be good for playing back my SLO-340's tapes but with my limited cash arround this time of year it was hopeless. And good luck to you, Jesse. my psychology final is in an hour and a half, but after this week I'm through with finals. College is great!

Name: JOHN LUCAS
Email:
YOBOTTOT@HOTMAIL.COM
Thursday 19th December 8:52 pm U.K. Time

HI SONY SLC 9 BETA VIDEO SMALL COG HAS BROKEN PLEASE CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF THERE IS A COMPATABLE CASSETTE CART FROM ANOTHER CHEAPER BETA MACHINE WHICH I COULD USE THE PARTS 2 FIX MY C9. ANY IDEAS THANKS

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 19th December 10:10 pm U.K. Time

Just FYI, it says in the rules not to post in all caps. Since they have a tendency to shut this place down faster than you can say "404" I'd advise you to be careful.

Name: W.G.B Spender
Email:
smokyguy@cia.gov
Friday 20th December 1:14 am U.K. Time

404.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 20th December 2:13 am U.K. Time

To John Lucas;

Try looking for similar gears at a hobby shop - I think the PALsite repair guide mentions those gears. Otherwise you might want to try bidding on E-bay for an American SL-2500 or SL-2700 for equivelent parts. They go for a lot so try getting one that's nonfunctional.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 3:11 am U.K. Time

Speaking of the C9/2500, why do only a few American Machines meant for consumers have Linear stereo? I think only the SL-HF-1000 and the Marantz VCR have it, but overseas Linear stereo was fair game?

Name: Dollins
Email:
dollins@mesh.net
Friday 20th December 4:08 am U.K. Time

I would like a little information, I have a Like new, Sony Betamovie BMC-550, AF, CCD. Still in the original box with all the original papers, charger etc. It was used by a local buiss. to make 5 short vids. indoors. Then it was returned to it's box and never use again. I also have the player that was used to view the 5 vid's that were produced. It is a like new Sony SL-2000 still in it's original box with all its original paperwork. I also have the 5 vid's that were made and the one tape that was never opened. I am just wondering what the items are worth. Any body got any idea ?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 4:12 am U.K. Time

Are you sure it's an SL-2000, or maybe an SL-HF-2000. either way, it's probably worht abour $150 as a package. Does the SL-2000 have the tuner/timer module or jsut the power supply? Anything else with them?

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 20th December 4:38 am U.K. Time

_@_技-uhh actually it's only like worth a dollar or so - yeah that's the ticket!

Just send it to...

The Snail Vinelandstrasse 49 Berlin -Gr焠wald DE 14193


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 5:06 am U.K. Time

I'll give a dollar each piece. Besides, Franny's using Euros and the shipping wauld kill you.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Friday 20th December 5:43 am U.K. Time

Sean,

The 1000's linear track is mono.


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Friday 20th December 5:49 am U.K. Time

anybody know of any electronic fix for the 15 year calendar problem? i think my 2100 may be headed for it real soon. also,anyone familiar with the fix for the clock power backup for the 2100?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 5:50 am U.K. Time

Well, as to the "Callender problem" as far as I know the years repeat on a cycle, so one year will have a callender identicle to one long past. I'll work on a conversion table.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 20th December 5:56 am U.K. Time

To to the guy w/ the C9, is the gear that broke one of those " plastic one's on that rotating axel across the top of the cassette carriage? See, I have a broken SLO-420 (pro deck; same design as C9/2500) that has the same problem and have been unable to find a replacement for those gears. One of those gears split in half rendering it unable to load.

Also, as far as I know, the SL-2500 doesn't do linear stereo; whereas the SLO-420 does. IMO, it was an interim effort to improve sound until beta-hifi came out. They took the mono track and split it into two half-tracks, further degrading the sound quality. So, they added a noise-reduction system to improve that; Dolby C on the Marantz deck and BetaNR on the SLO-420 (C9 too?). A few tapes I made on it (before it broke) where OK as long as they were made w/ BNR, but still didn't hold a candle to hifi. Also, if BNR was switched off, there was a loud "SSSSSSSSSSSS" just like an audio cassette.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 6:01 am U.K. Time

Don't ask me where I got the idea that it was Linear stereo. I thought I got it from the InfoGuide, but Ichecked and I didn't. Silly me.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 6:08 am U.K. Time

Yeah, Madness, I'm pretty sure the C9 had BNR. Actually the PALsite will tell you. (Yes, there is a whole page attached to this Chat! who'd a thunk it!

Name: JOHN LUCAS
Email:
YOBOTTOT@HOTMAIL.COM
Friday 20th December 9:09 am U.K. Time

Thanks for the advice guys. It is the niylon gear thats broken on the cassette cart, which has stopted it loading/unloading. Franny will the sl2400 do the same for replacement parts on the cart.If any 1 else knows ware i can get these niylon gears from plese let me know.

Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Friday 20th December 10:36 am U.K. Time

ooh christmas. A perfect excuse to use my hvc2000p :)

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Friday 20th December 11:02 am U.K. Time

thanks sean.since the 900 got along quite well wihout the self limiting internal callendar,one can only wonder what in the name of GOD sony was thinking! also,any convenience in programming gained thru accuracy is easily offset by the increased inconvenience in resetting the 2100's clock[remote]!

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 20th December 11:20 am U.K. Time

To John Lucas;

Only The SL-C9, SL-2500, SL-2700 and the Japanese SL-F7, SL-F11, SL-HF 66 and SL-HF77 used the 'guillotine' type tape loader (where a 'blade' with the words "cassetrte inside comes up to block you from loading a tape when there's already one loaded).


Name: JOHN LUCAS
Email:
YOBOTTOT@HOTMAIL.COM
Friday 20th December 12:54 pm U.K. Time

THANKS FRANNY , DO THESE UNIT TAPE CARTS JUST SWOP OVER LIKE FOR LIKE OR IS IT JUST SOME OF THE BITS? IN THE MODELS YOU HAVE SAID?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 5:45 pm U.K. Time

WEll since you guys were probably wondering, my Still video player came. It works GREAT. I can now upload pictures from my MVC-2000 to my PC. it's better than a lousy digital camera but not as good as a good one, if that makes any sense.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 20th December 6:09 pm U.K. Time

I'm guessing that they should , given the similarity of design.

Name: Alan Morton
Email:
adm22@epguides.com
Friday 20th December 7:15 pm U.K. Time

If you are in North America just be tahnkful that not many of our Betamax's had the dreaded linear stereo on it. I at one time had a c9 for my PAL tapes and a friend in the UK had one also so when I got tapes from him they played OK. After ahile we both wound upgrading equipment to SL HF-100s and then SL HF 950s and after getting rid of my C9 I discovered that any of the tapes made on the thing have very POOR audio when played back on either a 100 or 950 since they do not have the linear stereo with BNR. I am expecting that the same is also true for regular non stereo machines since a tape I made here on my c9 for a friend in Australia had bad audio hiss in it. Although to be fair the tapes can still be listened to it is rather annoying.

Recently came across TV listing for Montreal in 1976 and saw that there was an advert for a Betamax deck that was saying you could do the things with it that TIVO is claiming you need one of their units for now. (although VCRs dont need subscriptions to work). A frined of mine told me his parents saw a TiVo in the store and asked him why they should get one since they had a perfectly good VCR-- which you can just put new tapes in when they fill up!


Name: Tardon
Email:
junkmail@mrtoads.com
Friday 20th December 7:44 pm U.K. Time

Hi there,

I know I may sound like I just came out of a time warp, but having seen that Sony is done making Beta VCRs I realized that I'd like to buy a new one before they're all gone. Can you point me in the right direction to get one of these last 2000? Yes, I'm looking for NTSC, I'm in the US. What is the model number of the current production unit?

Thanks,

tardon


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 20th December 9:02 pm U.K. Time

Sony actually stopped making Betamax VCRs for the US market a couple years ago. The recent announcment by Sony was that they were giving up on Beta's last bastion - the Japan home market. While Japanese Betas were NTSC compatible, they have a US incompatible RF modulator and their stereo reception conforms to Japanese not US broadcast standards. They're also power-rated for the Japanese 100 volt system and not the US 110/120 volt systems.

The last US Beta model was the SL-HF 2000. Sony is currently in the process of phasing out the SL-200D (Japanese version of the SL-HF 2000) and the EDV-9000 ED Beta VCR.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 20th December 9:26 pm U.K. Time

As for TiVo personal video recorders, I guess their selling point is their menu driven programming ease, the ability to playback the front half of a show while still in the process of recording the back half as well as the 'if you like this show you might like these too' feature. Because they're hard drive based, you can also skip commercial breaks instantaniously. And they record digitally so if you wanted to dump them to tape you'll get no picture degradation. Also there is the capability of 'Napstering' what you've recorded with other TiVo users.

They are a legitimate innovation providing you're willing to pay that extra subscription fee on top of whatever you're paying for cable or satellite. I almost never time shift anything so I wouldn't need one.

With older Panasonic (or Panasonic OEM) VCR there was a convenient Standby/OTR record feature which was considerably easier to work than the timer feature. You tuned a channel hit the Standby button to pick a start time then the OTR (one touch record) button for amount of record time(in 15/30 min blocks). Or if you wanted to record now you just used the OTR alone. Some Sony Betamaxes (like the SL-HF 300) had a 'quick timer' OTR feature but you couldn't delay the record start like with the Panasonics.

Admittedly a far cry from the TiVo PVR concept but you could also rent movies and dupe them if you had two VCRs. TiVo has built in copy protection feature that don't let you do any bootlegging


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 20th December 10:47 pm U.K. Time

No way is a tape rewinder/eraser worth $50!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15099&item=1946173255

a tape rewinder!


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 10:54 pm U.K. Time

Franny dear, I wonder what color the trees are in Howiecat's world... I've seen those go for more, sadly. The erasing function is cool but tape erasers scare me... really, I'd keep it in a completely different room from my tapes and things!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 20th December 10:56 pm U.K. Time

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1945464776

Finally! A reasonable price! these are good little machines, I'd reccomend one to anyone. mine has NEVER needed service even though it was abused in its previous life.


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 21st December 12:50 am U.K. Time

Guys, I've seen that Sony rewinder before; erases a tape as it's rewound. Great novelty I 'spose. My equipment consists of a Kinyo rewinder and a RadioShack (Tandy) bulk eraser ("bulker"), both of which I got for much less then 50 bucks (and work just as well I'm sure)!

The bulker comes in handy to wipe used betacam tapes recorded in that format. Attempting to play one of those in a betamax is a very unpleasent experience! Snow for picture, but this awful almost subaudible whine eminates from the speakers and makes my ears ring after a few seconds! And yes, I keep the bulker far away from finished tapes!

Side note: A few months back, on eBay, I saw a RadioShack VHS/Beta *combo* rewinder. Now that's funny!


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 21st December 1:12 am U.K. Time

Yes, the combo rewinder was created by the guy who created a prototype or design for a VHS/Beta combo player. You now know as much as I do. I have NO details about it, if it did anything beyond strap a VHS deck to a beta deck or what. but, suffice it to say, the idea was not a new one...

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Saturday 21st December 1:43 am U.K. Time

hmmmmmmm to the guy with the Betamie 550 and the SL-200mie, send it to the Wards Home for Wayward Millenia S-es and Outcast Professional Video Equipment.. Email me and I'll give ya yer address. eeeeee.....

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Saturday 21st December 1:51 am U.K. Time

O Ya speaking of Wards.. The signs inside the mall were on today, on upper and lower levels. This is a mall that should be qualified for deadmalls.com because NO ONE is around the Wards wing, and the Muzak sounds BLARING, that's how quiet it is. Neways, when u stand a certain distance away from the Wards, you can see the upper and lower level signs lit, with the store dark. It made a really nice picture, although I had to hide from the mall-cops. Went outside and took a bunch of pix of the Auto Express and merchandise pick up areas. It brought back so many memories to see the signs softly glowing, and beckoning customers to a store that isn't open. :( :( Eeee... Stupid mall-teens were watching me... So I only got a piccy or three of the top level sign. I felt like they were going to tattle on me, because I was takin pix. What're the legal consequences of doing this if I get caught? When I did it at the Wards near my house before it closed the manager got all hissy and told me he could get me arrested for trespassing. Oh well. Heheheh if ne1 wants to see the pix when I develop them, tell me. Now, to bring my post on topic... How much do SL-HF300 heads cost?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 21st December 1:57 am U.K. Time

Somewhere I have an OLD monkey Wards photo supply catalogue. it's gotta be 100 pages easy, Jesse, but I'll scan a few of the more interresting pages and send them to you as soon as I get my scanner back up and running. Stupid Windows ME ate the drivers for lunch. No biggy.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Saturday 21st December 2:11 am U.K. Time

My CCD-TRV87 Hi-8 cam came with an RMT-708 camcorder remote that can operate the tape transport operations play, stop, rew, ff, pause, slow and record start/stop. On a hunch, I set the RMT-V5A that came with my SLV-R5UC to VTR2 command mode and sure enough, all the jog/shuttle, variable-speed slow motion, forward/reverse frame x frame etc worked on the camcorder. Why does Sony make equipment capable of extra features and then limit the controls so you can't excess them without experimentation? It would be nice to have camcorders come with jog/shuttle remotes. I set the RMT-V5A to VTR1 and tried the same thing on my SL-HF600, unfortunately those features didn't work on that one. The only thing that worked besides the normal transport buttons was turning the jog wheel forward, which had the same effect as pressing the FRAME button on the HF600's original RMT-133.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Saturday 21st December 2:13 am U.K. Time

Sorry, that should be "access", not "excess".

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 21st December 2:45 am U.K. Time

Sony wasn't the only firm to do that. Pioneer did it with a lot of there LD players, so if you get a Pioneer player, be sure to get the best remote you can for it. I have a big remote that came with my SVO-140 and it can access some nifty features on my 900, including locking scan (Yay!) and others. JVC makes the locking scan work if you press the scan button for only a brief time while if you press it for a while it works like a Betascan. I like Sony's way better of having seperate buttons.

Name: W.G.B Spender
Email:
smokyguy@cia.gov
Saturday 21st December 3:02 am U.K. Time

"No off-topic posts"

Name: Snail commando
Email:
MFWIC@snailfaction.com
Saturday 21st December 3:10 am U.K. Time

Down with the man!

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 21st December 6:23 am U.K. Time

Would one of these be great to go with your Beta portable?

http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/product.CFM?BaseItem=55SH

1950's style microphone


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 21st December 8:32 am U.K. Time

Ribbon mikes are the greatest. I want one but they're incredibly expensive because of the warm, rich tones they lend to your voice. Very good things.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Saturday 21st December 11:40 am U.K. Time

I don't think even a ribbon mic. would make me sound good... my voice sounds like Redd Foxx after a cigarette.. :P

This hasn't been my week.. missed out on that SLO-325.. would have been a nice compliment to my 323.. not that I have a lot of tapes that would play on it, other than my original Star Trek series stuff.. I'm pretty sure that's in standard 遝ta II format.. most everything else is done in Super遝ta, much of it in 逫s.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 21st December 9:02 pm U.K. Time

About that calender thingie with the SL-HF 2100...

There are, in fact, 14 separate calender variables that go through a 28 year rotation cycle. Right now we have the same calender going as that of 1957, 1963,1974,1985, 1991 and 2013. Next year's calender will match up with 1958, 1969, 1975, 1986, 1997 and 2014.

If you have a World Almanac there's a perpetual calender with the full table from about 1821 to 2080...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 21st December 9:21 pm U.K. Time

So maybe we WON'T be able to make our machines work after 2005. Disturbing. I wonder if there's a fix?

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 21st December 9:43 pm U.K. Time

I don't own a 2100 (boy, I wish!), but what would happen if you, say, set the calender ahead to 12/31/2005, 11:59pm and then let it click over? Would the deck go nuts like a non-y2k computer? Or would it just go back to 1/1/90 (or whatever)?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 21st December 9:55 pm U.K. Time

I'm scared to try. Maybe I should've bought a couple of those old SVO-140s to experiment with. I suppose the worst that could happen is I'd need to unplug it to reset is completely, since it goes back to a set state every time it looses power.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 21st December 10:28 pm U.K. Time

thanks olive! madness- don't feel deprived.while the 2100's features and styling may make it convenient and cute,easily available 750's and 900's produce a much better recording.will try tricking timer as soon as unit returns from shop.asked them about electronic calendar remedy.still awaiting response as they fix servo section.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 21st December 10:39 pm U.K. Time

if jan.1,2006 is sunday,the 2100 remote's calendar is tracking corectly.let me see how far i can push it.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Saturday 21st December 11:31 pm U.K. Time

OK, everyone, I've done the dreaded 2005 test and the results are in. The callender simply ticks back to January 1, 1990, from a Saturday to a Monday. Sure to mess up a few people who will undoubtedly rush off to work or similar apointments because the VCR has no year indication on the front. My handheld computer, a Handspring Visor, has a build in callender that stops at the year 2031, and my Go-video dual VCR cuts out at something like 2096. But by then maybe only Franny and I will still be alive and we can laugh at it on the porch of the old-age home when it goes haywire and how pitiful it was that the rest of the lousy VHS mechanism was dead.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 21st December 11:59 pm U.K. Time

If Santa happens to stop by this board: Please let me find a 2100 under my tree this year? I've been a very good boy! ;)

But seriously: I'd love one, but I'd think those who own 'em would be unwilling to part w/ 'em! My curiosity does have the best of me: The calendar data must be stored on a rom chip inside the deck. And if so, I wonder if it could be removed, dumped to a computer, and reprogrammed (i.e. updating the year-cycle, say, from 1990-2005 to 2006-2020); then burned to eprom, which is then loaded back into the deck. Also wonder if the folks on betamax.to would have a similar problem w/ the SL-2100 (Japanese version)? Wish I had a 2100, I'd check it out. ;)


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 12:10 am U.K. Time

if jan1,2058 is tuesday, remote calendar is still right.that means i will by that time have spent about $4,600 on replacement heads.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 22nd December 12:27 am U.K. Time

Well assuming on 2096 that GoVideo deck hasn't biodegraded we could tape it's 'clocking over' with my SL-F1 and camera...

Do you think there will be an analog TV available then?


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 12:37 am U.K. Time

as long as we have a monitor. I'd hang onto a generator too since who knows if we'd still be using out current power standards. Surprisingly the Go-Video is well-built compared to todays decks, it is made of metal and weighs what you'd expect it to, no packing it about with one hand, and it's tough stuff, too. I pulled it from a skip and left it in the trunk of my car for several days. It fired right up and played like a champ and hasn't quit since. However it interperits one code from my cable TV remote as a "Power up" signal which is annoying. Given the number of surfaces in my room that reflect IR beams I can use a remote at almost any angle and have it work. that's fun but a little odd when the VCR respods to a Remote held 180 degrees from it.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 12:47 am U.K. Time

calendar data is stored in remote.it remains to be seen if 2100 deck can keep pace.the auto tracking function allows me to keep my butt parked on couch while unit plays tapes made on any previous machine.recordings on 2100 look soft,even softer when played back on other units.this means rec contrast lacks sufficient boost.even though playback has superior enhancement it doesn't adequately compensate . playback of tapes made on other units look good to the critical eye and is the saving grace of the2100.the 900's playback is on par but offers superior recording quality.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Sunday 22nd December 1:33 am U.K. Time

My satellite TV receiver and Pioneer stereo system have several codes in common (of course, none of them are the same function), and it gets very annoying at times..

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 3:39 am U.K. Time

As much as I love Sony's VTR 1/2/3 setup it DOES mean that I can't have two Sony VHS decks and two Sony Beta decks. BAck when I had two non-selectable betas on code 1, I taped over the sensor on one and let it be that way since I hardly used it.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Sunday 22nd December 4:15 am U.K. Time

I have three betas stacked on top of each other but I don't really have to worry about putting tape on the remote sensor. The SL-2000/TT-2000 lets you turn off it's remote sensor which leaves me the SL-HF 300 and 360 to be dealt. I just use nearly dead batteries and finagle the angle a bit to turn one on or the other. They have a different enough response time so that with a few tries you can turn one on and have the other stay off. Or I can just get up and turn them off. I just can't operate both of them at the same time which is not an issue with me anyway.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Sunday 22nd December 4:22 am U.K. Time

Since I'm presumably the youngest member of this board at 17... I'd creak by the old age home with Sean and Olive... with a U-matic portable and a DXC-1600 or whatever to tape hte GO-Video's clicking over. lol... drive over in a decades-old Millenia S that I just FINALLY got at age 60. Well, if the 2100 messes up you always know where to send it. :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Sunday 22nd December 4:24 am U.K. Time

And Sean's U-mies will be taping happily along... :) I wonder if the Betamies will last that long, since they have belts and stuff. Will the tube keep like 50 years and stay sharp like it is now if it isn't burned or anything? Wonder how a 1980 HVC-2200 will fare in 2080.. connected to a SL-2000mie with decades old NP-11s.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 4:32 am U.K. Time

Nope, tubes have a limited life, period. after so long they're just GONE. Chip cameras have the possibilt to last indefinitely, however, so my GCS-1 will still be chugging along happily as long as I can keep its expendables suppleid.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 4:46 am U.K. Time

However given that the trinicons were some of the pinacle of tube development and te were some of the last mass-market tube cameras produced, by 2080 they may still be decent. I forgot about you, Jesse. You, me and Franny can reminis (sp) about the good old days when video was huge machines that sat on your shelf and not a piece of software installed in your head... (Yeah, I've been reading too much ScFi Lately. Brenda will have a guess at what but the rest of you are probably clueless... Anyway, it'll be fun. See you all there!

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 5:10 am U.K. Time

yeah,if i make it to 131 years old!

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 5:18 am U.K. Time

anyone know for sure whether tracking on 9500 is auto or manual?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 5:39 am U.K. Time

Well since the Infoguide says thatthe 2100 is the only Beta to have autotracking, I'd be inclined to say it doesn't. Since every Beta I've owned seemed to have the ability to do something like auto-track, however, I've rarely had to adjust the tracking, while the auto-track on my VHS machines tends to adjust every time a tape is played that wasn't made on it. Another point for Beta.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 22nd December 5:53 am U.K. Time

HF2000 is auto also, I think.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 6:02 am U.K. Time

beta playback does display more compatibilty between machines. some of my earliest svhs ep tapes are almost unplayable on my newer decks.auto tracking, while not essential on beta,does provide just the right amount of tweaking when needed.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 6:07 am U.K. Time

kinda anologous to auto-climate control on your car.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 6:14 am U.K. Time

Yeah, Imperials had that. Called it Auto-Temp II. Anyway, do you mean S-VHS EP meaning the longest speed, or S-VHS ET, meaning the machines that can record S-VHS on a regular tape? The S-VHS ET machines are useless. Resist the Temptation to buy one. The best are the "Old School" S-VHS machines like the Sony SLV-R5UC and the JVC HR-S5500U. I've found S-VHS to be on par with BIs, even though the scan line numbers say otherwise. you get half an hour more on S-VHS but cheap Beta Media is more common. The same store where you fin Hi-grade Betas for $9 you find the S-VHS for I think $14. And of course ED-beta Beats all.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 22nd December 6:15 am U.K. Time

Of course by that time there will likely be a not so many carbon-based human lifeforms around - everyone having converted over to a silicon-based 'Bio Replacement Units' years earilier...

A sort of high-tech version of the old Jewish 'Golem' - a creature formed out of dirt (silica?) to protect the Jews of Prague during the time of persecutions after the black death. That Golem eventually rose up against his masters and had to be put down but I imagine if a computer should ever develope the 'critical mass' to harbour a soul, what's to say that it would not want to strive for morality and perfection and not merely go on a wanton killing spree?( Malcolm OS-X?) I also imagine in the future that Beta VCRs will be 'conjured up' with nanobotic or single-unit production technology by university students as a mid-term diversion or for their oral presentation assignment. (find a technology of the ancients and produce a working example of it)


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Sunday 22nd December 6:29 am U.K. Time

_@_v - eeee! The Sanyo OEM of Betaphile's old Sear Beta VCR!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1946977726

A Sanyo VCR-5050. Big-ass mofo! Never seen one of those before...


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 6:29 am U.K. Time

Ever read Heinlein, Franny? maybe we'll find the secret to immortality and be able to take our beta with us where disturbingly intelligent machines will be able to synthesize any parts neccessary for there maintenance on a rapid prototyper. And of course we'll all live so long we'll be bored with it and have to go tearing off to found new worlds and bring the Joy of Betamax to them all. Yep, ready to pioneer. With my Laser gun and GCS-1.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 6:54 am U.K. Time

i mean svhs ep.the machines are jvc hrs8000,hrs7200, and hrs9500.they were all flagship models when they were introduced.vhs hi- fi had all kinds of compatibility problems at first.they were resolved in time for svhs.my problems are with only a few tapes.sean,if you're paying $12 for a svhs tape ,maybe you shouldn't be parking your rolls-royce right in front of the store.they're now selling for as low as $3.99 at circuit city.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 6:57 am U.K. Time

Well as you know I drive a Buick. Nice enough to be the sofa on wheels I want it to be but still unnasuming enough that you have to look for the CB radio antenna and irrevernt bumper stickers (Support Search and Rescue! GET LOST) to recognize it. I've gotta go to CC. THANKS!!! Looks like I'll be blowing the dust off of the old HR-S5500U sometime soon!

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 7:07 am U.K. Time

if prices are up at c.c.,try http://www.smilephotovideo.com

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 22nd December 11:15 am U.K. Time

I read somewhere on the 'net about people pulling the "floppy-disk-routine"* on standard vhs tapes so they could be used to record svhs. I guess shvs cassettes have an additional hole at the bottom of the shell so the svhs deck can tell them apart. So there was an article about people taking ordinary vhs tapes and drilling (I think) a 1/8" hole in bottom exactly where it would be on an svhs tape. Just a drop of 2 for you svhs owners.

*The "floppy-disk-routine" refers to a practice back in the 80's of stamping an extra hole in 3" low-density floppys so they could be used as high-density; also cutting a notch in dual-sided 5" floppies so they could be used in single-sided drives (by flipping them over). They made stampers especially for those purposes. :)


Name: Andrew Chambers
Email:
a.chambers@unsw.edu.au
Sunday 22nd December 11:48 am U.K. Time

Hi,

I just obtained an NEC Betamovie Cam (pretty rare I'd say! model BM-11 similar to first Sony/Sanyo) Although it looks like new and works OK the battery packs supplied are long dead. Has anyone had success rebuilding these or having them rebuilt? Any instructions around on how to open the battery pack? I presume it comes apart under one of the stickers?

Also anyone repaired the internals of the microphone? The foam rubber supporting the rod that leads to the mic is dead and the mike actually comes off but still works OK.

Thanks guys for any leads...


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Sunday 22nd December 2:23 pm U.K. Time

Fresh NP-11 stopped being available a couple years ago. You can still get record needles and radio tubes but VeHoS-forbid batteries for a Betamovie camcorder. The BatteryBank http://www.batterybank.com/ will rebuild NP-11 batteries for about $43 bux (shipping included). You'll, of course, need a dead NP-11 to be rebuilt.

I've been able to fix that disinetgrated foam problem by taking that cotton stuff from an aspirin bottle and glueing it (with Elmer's 'Stix-All' - a sorta like hot-glue but a liquid that sets) around the shaft. Also if you look on the plastic mounts on that rubber flange thingis you'll see a notch that lines up with a tab on the microphone post. If you stuff just enough cotton to keep the microphone from being pushed out of that notch you should be able to keep it from falling out.

That rubber microphone mount has a thin metal wire imbedded in it to hold it upright. Over time a permanent bend in the wire tends to give BMC mics that "needs-some-Viagra" look...


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Sunday 22nd December 3:29 pm U.K. Time

But I fixxed mine... Yes, I agree that the Betas have an "auto-track" ability, because I haven't had to adjust tracking unless its a really nasty old tape like an abused TDK or something...

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 4:08 pm U.K. Time

Madness: I've pulled the floppy disk trick on my SuperVHS and it seems to work fine to the naked eye, although I hear that if you use test equipment it will show problems. The better the grade of tape, the better it looks. They used to call those 2-sided disks "Flippy disks".

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 22nd December 7:35 pm U.K. Time

1) I have a BMC-550 and I rebuilt the two NP-11's I got w/ it, myself. I had used these "replace-a-cell" Sub-C's they sold at the RatShack. Of course, that was a few years ago and they've long since discontinued 'em! >:

2) THe only reason I'd buy VHS tapes today is to cannibalize 'em to revitalize old worn betas. Most usually to make L-1000's for use on 逫s. Always look for cheap packs of SHG T-160's for the latter use! ;)


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 7:43 pm U.K. Time

Madness, what tape makes an L-1000? The longest I've seen tapes are ST-210s from JVCs website, being S-VHS tapes they must make a marvelous picture at BIs.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 7:49 pm U.K. Time

Sorry Jesse, you're not the youngest member of this chat. I'm 16, but I turn 17 next month. I agree that S-VHS ET is pretty much useless, on my PV-VS4821 EP recordings in S-VHS ET contain so much noise they are almost unwatchable, and SP recordings are OK but I turn off ET mode since they won't play on regular VHS decks. I find I get better results from drilling the extra hole in a VHS tape and recording it in true S-VHS mode rather than using ET mode. The few ET recordings I did make on the Panasonic play fine on my R5, even though I've heard some older S-VHS decks can't play them. Where is this Circut City that sells S-VHS blanks for $3.99? Where I live the prices are: $12 for a 2-pack of Fujifilm ST-120s at Circut City, $12 for a 2-pack of either Maxells or TDKs at Best Buy, $12 for a single RadioShack "MLC" ST-120 at Radio Shack, or $7 for a single JVC ST-120 at either American or Sears. Due to these prices I use the S-VHS mode ONLY for mastering home videos, for time-shifing "Survivor", "The Simpsons", "That 70's Show", football games etc to watch once and tape over I use VHS, for recording shows for my permanent library like movies off TV and "Junkyard Wars" (a.k.a "Scrap Heap Challenge" in the UK) I use Beta, and for buying prerecorded movies I now use DVD.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 22nd December 7:50 pm U.K. Time

T-160's for L-1000 (or close enough); T-120's give about an L-810.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 8:26 pm U.K. Time

madness:was quite happy with the floppy disk trick for many years.then i upgraded my tv from a sony 27"hfr to a sony 32"xbr200.the bigger,clearer set easily revealed the drawbacks of using reg.vhs tape in svhs mode.while better than reg vhs mode,the drilled tapes were obviosly more grainy than the proper svhs tapes.all these years i had convinced myself svhs tapes were nothing but a scam!drilled tapes were a viable alternative to $9-$12 tapes,but now that svhs prices are $4-$6,proper tapes can be worth it.consider them especially if you're thinking of a bigger,clearer tv,if you're copying dvd's,or if you're archiving your favorite material.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Sunday 22nd December 8:27 pm U.K. Time

I wonder if you could get an entire ST-210 into a beta shell. The tape is expensive, though, but the Beta would record for a LONG time.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 8:47 pm U.K. Time

going back down to my c.c.to see if they have indeed raised prices from $3.99[fuji last year].could have rose due to more cheap svhs units on market.once again,svhs 120's start at 3.99 as of last week at http://www.smilephotovideo.com and tape world on the net should be eager to match prices.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Sunday 22nd December 9:54 pm U.K. Time

Grrrr now I feel old. :) Yuck, I went to Sear(s) today and saw a JVC Stupor-Vehos ET for the astronomical price of $99... I could pick the damned thing up with ONE HAND, thats how plasticky and flimsy it was. I tried it with all the other decks they had, and same thing. I got some weird looks from salespeople... Olive said I probably gave it shaken baby syndrome without even meaning to. Heads all snapped off.... :) :) Stupid Sear(s),, wish Wards was still around...

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Sunday 22nd December 9:59 pm U.K. Time

Whaaaat?! I'd only upwards of $3 a tape for Beta only! Stupid S-VHS tapes at Rat Shack here are like $14. I really hate the way Rat Shack beta tapes look. How can I make a L-1000 with a Vehos tape?

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 22nd December 10:25 pm U.K. Time

Anyone check out Betamax.To lately? I've notice they replacing some of the pictures in their archive section with better ones here and there. Sleeched a really nice piccy of that SL-MV1 TV/VCR combo and the SL-B5 portable as well as some new piccys of their Vidimagic FP-61 and some changer units. you'll want to keep checking in as they seem to be upgrading every so often...

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 22nd December 11:06 pm U.K. Time

Yannow, I just back from doing a bit of last-minute shopping. I stopped in our new Goodwill store again. I found, sitting on the electrics shelf, a Sanyo VCR4400! So, I examine it and see a little taped package tucked *inside* the cassette well. The package is the corded remote (musta been done before it was donated). I strolled over to the video tape bin (where I found some betacams & gov't surplus tapes on prior visit) and found two Polaroid L-750's, loaded one, and I could hear the deck load the tape and start playing; tested all other transport controls, all positive (no TV's tho). Took it home for $10; works fine; not hifi, but it's a 遝ta. *shrug*

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 22nd December 11:11 pm U.K. Time

andy w.- fuji single svhs 120 for $4.99 at circuit city,store700,bustleton ave.,phila.,pa. phone2153330412.bought one hour ago---still a reasonable price!

Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Sunday 22nd December 11:27 pm U.K. Time

So that's why my SVHS looks so great at EP (slowest speed) going thru my 25 year old Sony 9" with rotary tuner. Are you guys saying if I move the SuperBeta HiFi over and plug the SVHS deck into that empty S-connector on the living room telly, I might be disappointed in JVC? Heh Heh. BTW just checked the SVHS-C adapter to see how it knows which grade C-tape is installed. An extra hole in the tape shell lines up with a pivoting lever which uncovers a hole way over near the furthest bottom edge of the adapter. It should have broken years ago. BTW Maxell ST-120 assembled in USA was $5.75 US after (both) sales taxes at the drug store last week.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 23rd December 2:11 am U.K. Time

Lessee..

First, I'm really surprised at the youth of some of you in here.. 遝ta was in it's hayday when you were born.. just shows I guess that SOME young people know quality when they see it, and don't fall for all the flash with no substance that passes for todays consumer goods (what IS with all the stupid flashing lights on bookshelf stereos, anyway?? )

Second, for good prices on S-VHS tapes, watch ebay. I got two cases of Fuji for something like $33 each. Excellent quality tapes (although, I think my Hi-8 deck actually looks better than S-VHS, but this may be due to the noise levels in the program material.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 2:48 am U.K. Time

Well, Brenda, I was given a 1000 which let me in on the beta "thing", and when it died I put my tapes away for a while until an SL-20 showed up, so now I'm on an unending quest to have the best of Beta once again. Yeah, though, some of us are pretty young, though. Franny's "excuse" is obvoius, from what I gather her family chose beta to begin with. (LUCKY!). I wish my family used "Beta", I've got them to accept it, though they just use it to play my tapes. My dad doesn't care eiter way (Can't see a differnce, don't know why), but my mom DOES see a difference but demands all tapes I make for her are VHS... makes no sense, doesn't it.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Monday 23rd December 3:38 am U.K. Time

Ewwww, yes, Brenda I HATE modern "hi-fi" bookshelf systems because they all SUCK. I hear NOTHING but high end (hissssssssssss) and maybe some low end if we're lucky (sony). Yuckkkk those stupid flashing lites annoy the hell outta me, just like the pretend woodgrain of those mini-mini bookshelf systems. Even worse are the huge stereos that don't have Dolby. Gimme my 20-lb Denon DCD-1820 with linny-skate loading [SL-HF750 anyone? :)] and 20 bit D/A converter over a 1-bit Aiwa job! I hate consumer electronics.... Yes, my dad says he can't see a difference between beta and that other format. I think the Betamie has better colour than our Digi-8 cam. Ya, my 9" sony with twirly-tuners has a really great piccy if you let it warm up for like 1/2 hour, otherwise contrast isn't worth a darn.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 3:43 am U.K. Time

i was just a fussy audiophile with nothing but contempt for the fuzzy,blotchy video which was the norm until superbeta hi-fi came along.now i could enjoy watching concerts and performances i had taped from broadcasts as well as listening to the music.and with mts stereo emerging tv broadcasts were a potential treasure trove of performances by artists.scores of tunes on 3-4hour tape!WOW!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 3:49 am U.K. Time

I have to agree about the bookshelf systems. They have passed there peak. They are getting to be like boomboxes after '85, goofy with low quality. Some of the small systems are nice but others are stupid. I miss phono inputs and tape 2 monitors (No EQ!) where did they go?

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 4:03 am U.K. Time

sean -from what i can recall,the jvc5500 had lots of bells and whistles for a price that was not stratospheric.how close am i?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 4:07 am U.K. Time

Do you mean the HR-S5500U? I paid only $40 for mine but I have no idea about list price. it's very nice, having limited edit features, but all playback and so forth. It can do all sorts of tricks. Sorta on par with the SL-HF-750. JVC can match Some Sony Machines feature-wise but since they have nothing to compare with BIs-SHB and ED-Beta (S-VHS is only a little better than BIs, not enough to care) Beta still wins out. Most Betas are better built anyway, and there are other system superiorities that have been discussed in the past, such as Beta's inherant tracking forgiveness.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 4:14 am U.K. Time

nnils- actually,the bigger and better your monitor,the more revealing and unforgiving it should be.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 4:18 am U.K. Time

a lot of that arises from beta's faster "writing speed".

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 4:26 am U.K. Time

my favorite beta trick is 2x play with normal pitch sound.cuts tv newsmags in half.took jvc ten years to duplicate with 1.5x play.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 4:53 am U.K. Time

What decks have the normal-pitch audio at 2x speed? my 900 doesn't do it unless I'm missing how you turn it on. Yes, The bigger the monitor the more picture imperfections. I have a friend whose eyes are so sensitive he can't watch NTSC on anything bigger than maybe 13-15", he calls my 27" Mitsubishi "A good way to count scan lines".

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 23rd December 5:21 am U.K. Time

SL-2710 does 2x w/ normal audio. Guess they either would've had to make it sound like the Chipmunks or mute it otherwise. I think my Aiwa AV-70 does, too, but I'd havta check it.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 23rd December 5:29 am U.K. Time

Why would anyone waste perfectly good money on Snail VHS? If you wan't an ultra band format wouldn't you be better off with Hi-8 which doesn't take up so much space? And you're buying into a Sony designed format as well. Snail VHS still uses the VHS tape and loading system.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 5:38 am U.K. Time

You do have a good point, Franny. Those tapes, as good as they look, will still stretch and break sooner than a beta. I've seen more broken VHS tapes than Betas. More stretched ones too, probably mangled by cheap VHS VCRs. As to the crummy construction on the VHS VCRs these days, like I said before, my Go-video job is VERY heavy, accordinlgy so. I've heard of modern VCRs melting when Cable boxes are set on top of them. and of course setting a monitor on them is signing there death certificate, while my SL-20 in the other room holds up a 21" TV and a large cable box.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 23rd December 5:40 am U.K. Time

One other thing: Regarding the post about TV's, I've noticed the "grid-effect" of scan lines across some larger direct-view (25"+) sets, myself. Mostly on some of the low-end models like those sold at places like Kmart & Wally World.

I use a 27" Sony Wega myself. This baby has digitally-assisted picture and dot-crawl/video-noise filters (HDTV-ready compliance), so there's little of that "grid-effect" happening. Superbeta+ tapes look really phenominal on it; even regular betas (i.e. prerecorded) are decent, to a degree.


Name: ami
Email:
Aivars.Migla@lattelekom.lv
Monday 23rd December 7:29 am U.K. Time

Some time ago I wrote about my experience w/tapes. From PAL VHS E-300 tape I obtained approx. L-870 Beta tape. As about Hi8 format it has the highest scanline number of all consumer video formats - 424 lines in PAL. To my mind the good advantage of Beta is high writing speed and colour signal pilot burst. About Dolby NR. To my mind it is not the best NR system used in consumer audio tape recorders but its advantage is a compatibility of made recordings with non Dolby decks. I own 2 cassette decks that beside Dolby NR also have dbx.

Name: Jesse5000
Email:
newspaperman5000@hotnmail.com
Monday 23rd December 8:40 am U.K. Time

Since my interest in video has developed, I've always wondered this: How do others say "PAL?" Pee-Ay-Ehl? Or just "pal" phonetically? It's a given that NTSC is spelled out letter-per-letter. Does the same apply for SECAM (See-Cahm) and MESECAM (Me-See-Cahm?)

What are everyones' thoughts on this matter?

-Jesse


Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Monday 23rd December 9:47 am U.K. Time

Just kidding about watching SVHS thru my 9" Trinitron. Thanks for all your good replies, though. Remember it's only 100 days till April 1. That twirly-tuner has been running an hour a day for about 25 years and still has rock steady vertical hold and proper brightness and contrast right away. It has outlasted a Sanyo VCR-4000 and a 4030 so far but the latter probably just needs new rubber from iglou. As for the SVHS, after a steady diet of Veggie Tales tapes in the family room, the (center load) JVC will finally get to edit several hours of my Italian cousin-in-law's wedding footage at 30 mins per tiny $9 SVHS-C tape. Love changing tapes during the vows.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 10:25 am U.K. Time

sean, both my 900 and the 750 feature 2x play with normal pitch audio.if normal tracking wheel doen't access it after you press 2x then your unit is malfunctioning.audio monitor switch MUST be set to beta hi-fi!

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 10:45 am U.K. Time

and sean,this feature only works at beta2 and beta3 speeds.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 4:19 pm U.K. Time

Well the funny thing is I usually make my tapes at BI speed. I have one here at BII so I have to try it out.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 4:24 pm U.K. Time

Little odd fact. The SL-HF-900, when "Turbocharged" to BIs, at BIs, you can't do a 2x play. When you do a 2x play it just keeps going at normal BIs speed. You do get audio, however, the funny thing is the way it just keeps playing with the 2x light on. I wonder if the Japanese 900 does he same thing or maybe it has a slightly different chipset that lets it know that at BIs it should be going faster.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 23rd December 6:47 pm U.K. Time

I tried it w/ a BIs tape on my HF900, and you're right. Same for the Pioneer VX-90. Neither of those machines have the BIs mod, but plays tapes made on a 750/1000/GCS-50. I'm gussing it's because, for example, if you have a BII tape, it's running at 2cm/s, 2x play doubles that to 4cm/s, which is the X1/BIs speed. So, I assume the deck can't go faster than that; which would explain (IMO) why it won't do 2x @ BIs. To do it on a 750, you need the OEM remote (RMT-143?) for the shuttle dial, right? Which I don't have. :(

Name: Alan morton
Email:
adm22@epguides.com
Monday 23rd December 7:20 pm U.K. Time

If you really want to have weird audio you can use an SL-HF 1000 when the thing is in set up for editing AND when the audio monitor is set to linear, you can hear the sound in wahtever speed the tape is moving-- even frame by frame. I suspect this was done for people who are editing something on a sound cue. Some folks may not know it but the clapperboard that they use for making movies was origianlly done to sync up the sound to the film since the sound is not recorded on the film in the camera. When you hear the clap on the sound track it should line up with the frame of film where you see the clapperboard come together.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 7:39 pm U.K. Time

madness,of course your guess is right on the money.no rmt-148 necessary.your 2x is located directly to the left of SCAN button on front of 750.sean's situation didn't dawn on me till i finished my post,hence my "post"post.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 8:01 pm U.K. Time

by the way,the 900 also has a stop motion animation feature.place unit in rec-pause.every time rec switch is moved to right, the unit will record 7 frames at a time.time to dust off the camera,sean.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 8:09 pm U.K. Time

does the 1000 do the 2x audio normal pitch trick?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 8:09 pm U.K. Time

A caution to anyone wanting to record animation, it's very hard on a VCR and I suggest that if you are serious you try to find a dew extra 900s or just by a commercial device for it.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Monday 23rd December 9:04 pm U.K. Time

Christmas Eve here in the Land of the Morning Calm. Hope all of you have a wonderful holiday.

Take care, all, and stay well. :)


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Monday 23rd December 9:14 pm U.K. Time

Thanks Brenda, same to all of you out there in Betaland.

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Monday 23rd December 9:47 pm U.K. Time

The 2X trick w/normal pitch will only work with a tape recorded in Hi-Fi.

2X playback will not work on tapes recorded in B1, as stated in the 1000 user manual.

I don't know what it would do on the 2710, but who's got a tape recorded in standard X-1 speed with Hi-Fi sound anyways !?


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Monday 23rd December 11:01 pm U.K. Time

How does that work, playing at 2x but still hearing 1x sound? Erf... I guess it was because my twirly-tuner was stashed in a closet for about 10 years.. Poor thing. I agree with (Sean I think) that friend that can't watch anything above a 13" with NTSC because of counting scan lines.. My parents' Toshiba-tron has a horrid picture with VHS recordings (and higher up channels like 50, etC). Its convergence is off (blue, by a whole lot!) and I can't figure how to make the TV save the adjustments I make when I do them via its electronic menu.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Monday 23rd December 11:48 pm U.K. Time

sound is 2x but pitch is normal.the machine does this by reading audio from every other frame while playing video continuously at 2x. sounds a bit choppy but quite intelligible.not the expected "chipmonk" effect.baritones remain baritones.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Monday 23rd December 11:54 pm U.K. Time

i'm guess that the deck reads the hifi sound @ double-speed, then halves it internally so that it appears normal when heard? A shot-in-the-dark there. Weren't any Japanese-market decks that did X1 w/ hifi were there? Would be strange, I'm sure.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 12:34 am U.K. Time

Madness, I'm not sure if any Japanese Decks did X-1 and HiFi, although they had more X-1 decks than we did. They had a lot of Linear stereo dekcs too. The SL-J9, I think was something to behold.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 12:38 am U.K. Time

All right, stupid question, but how is convergence adjusted electronically on a projection TV? Are the tubes physically moved? Or is there a mirror that is moved electronically? Or, is the image itself shifted on the tube? I really believe that that evil brownout (more like momentary blackout) we had a few weeks ago is to blame for that poor TV's sudden misconvergence. Its piccy is horrid!!!!! It's not even sharp, with Sharpness at 100%! I am also tempted to believe that my SL-HF300s piccy is not sharp because of its heads, but I also blame Gastro-vision on it, too. Of course, it might be the tired Dynamicron tape. I notice that the 300 tapes a lot better when I give it used Betamie-cam oxides from.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 12:39 am U.K. Time

No, better comparison; the Toshiba-tron is astigmatic. Ask Olive about her astigmatic Sony Vehos :

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Tuesday 24th December 12:42 am U.K. Time

Whatever transport mode is involved in playback, the relative head-to-tape speed doesn't change, which explains why the sound pitch doesn't change. Instead, it skips frames.

I don't think there was any X-1 hi-fi. By the time BetaHi-FI was patented, X-1 was already gone for good.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 1:06 am U.K. Time

i wonder why the dropped X-1 entirely? BIs and SHB machines can't even record it, I think. I wonder if since a machine can play at BI could it also record if you somehow tricked it, but would it not work propperly since it would need some kind of equalization.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 1:06 am U.K. Time

Hmmm... Anyone got any old InfoNiacin (tired InfoLithium or any other Li-Ion) batteries for me? I want to try burning/boiling one. It says not to because electrolyte may be released.... Hee hee hee, I'm going to do some experiments with snails. J/K. I don't experiment on animals, I just want to see if the electrolyte will come out, and see if it's like acid. I also want to know, how long do you think a Li-Ion batty will last in a Betamie? Like, if we got the cells from a modern Sony InfoLithim batty, would the Betamie munch it faster?

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 24th December 2:26 am U.K. Time

Grrrr! Everyone talking about their BIs recordings off their SL-HF 900s 750s and 1000s is making me feel left out with my boogity old SL-HF 360....

It's a shame Sony never made that many 4 head VCRs because if you have a HiFi deck you really need 4 heads to get cleaner cuts between recording sessions.

Jesse if you play around with Info-Riboflavin power cells remember they can get pretty hot pretty fast if you cross terminals.

I wonder how many S-VHS decks were sold. I wonder if in the end they really did any better than Beta over it's lifetime? Whatever happened to Digital S? Or the VHS-W widescreen format? Speaking of which... now that the new plasma screen HD-TVs are formatted for 1.66/1.88-1 widescreen format, what's gonna happen to all those letterboxed movies that came out? Are they gonna be postage-stamp sizeded little nothings or even worse blown up so that you get a 120-line resolution piece of crap?

Call me a Philistine but I've never like letterboxing. With a 20" screen you don't get much detail in an image 1/2 or 1/3rd the size of the screen. Television is an intimate format and trying to go widescreen just doesn't work. Pan & scan gets a bad rap with the critics but really you're doing that watching a widescreen movie in the theater. No-one looks at the whole screen all the time - they focus on the center of action. Widescreen shots are only good if you're photographing a snake anyway.


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 2:44 am U.K. Time

OK OlIve, you're a philistine. I like letterbox but I can understand your frustration. My eyes don't seem to mind large screens, even thought I watch a 27" from 5' away. and with LD you get plenty of resolution on Widescreen. A decent P&S job is OK but I won't put up with a rotten one. Tampering with a movie just isn't a 'go' for me, I REFUSE to watch censored movies! The TV networks editing is EVIL! Fine, tell us that this movie will make the eyes fall right out of the heads of children, but don't tamper with it!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
webmaster@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 2:46 am U.K. Time

hahhhhaha! eyes falling out of kids' heads. Nope, Olive. Tried shorting InfoRiboflavin batty a few mins ago, before reading your post. The Sony protection circuit or whatever cuts out the current and disables the battery for about 10 minutes before it will allow it to work again. Sorry... It didn't seem to work, but the paperclip just glowed for like a couple seconds.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 2:58 am U.K. Time

Well, Olive, you're not alone. Hahah, I do feel kinda silly with my non-Super betas. My SL-2000 had to be moved to the Sony with the twirly-tuners because that's (besides the 13" 1980 trinitron) the only TV that its piccy looks spectacular (ok, ok, good, at least) on. The 32" and the 27" are just not good monitors for the 2000mie (unless looking at a live picture from the HVC-2200. I think the 2000mie's tracking adjustment went screwy, because Betamie-recorder videos don't track properly. I'm afraid to mess with it because that screw-on-a-spring has a stripped head. Your 360 is Super, right? I gotta put up with a non-Super 300 and old tapes. Isn't there a movie called Arsenic and Old Lace? Well, my version would be Arsenic and Old Tapes. :) Someone come to the Riverwalk and visit me, because I need someone to resolder the A/V in leads on the back of my 1997 Philips Sagnavox 32". The S-Video and Line in connections are all loose and I have to constantly (LOL, at least once a day) be stomping on the floor to get them to work right. And while you're at it, want to resolder the leadouts on my 1998 Spamsung VCR? They're looser than hell... Yes, Sean, I alos agree with you about the idiot networks replacing the cussing with stupid words or phrases. Like, USA replaces "GD" with "Goddangit" or something silly like that. It just looks and sounds so stupid (words dont match, and you can tell when they inserted a word because there's hissing). Whoever said about Dolby not being that good, why? I think Dolby is just perfect. :) I really would like to get ahold of a Dolby B/C or even S encoder with HX. Hee hee hee! I really really want an outboard decoder, so I can encode all of my video recordings with Dolby NR. Especially the VeHoS ones because they tend to get hissy. I guess that my VeHoS video library is going to be gone in a couple years because I always buy the RCA drugstore variety (because they're always on sale for like $0,99 a tape. I don't like to buy high grade tape because it's expensive, and I tape profusely; can't afford a lot of high grade tape. Will only buy it for a special event recording, or something. Damn it, I also went and looked up quotes for a 1995 Millenia.... For ME it would be like $400 a month as the primary driver, with dad it would be like $350. Whoop-de-doo. How much do you guys pya for car insurance?

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 3:09 am U.K. Time

Good grief, Jesse, I get $130 a month and change on the car insurance! and that's on the massive Buick I drive! Yes, there is a movie called "Arsenic and Old Lace" and it always screws up my searches for "Old video" on Ebay... in fact I use this search string : old video -game -games -VHS -lace -disney for some stuff. also substitute "Vintage" for old for more video stuff.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-s@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 3:15 am U.K. Time

Heheheh a Buick Roadmaster, LOL! Well, have any of you seen this link *( http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=jive&url=http://www.chat-page.com/betamax )* on the Betamax palsite links page? It's hilarious, its called the Dialectiser. I tried 'dialectising' the WOAI page and it was funny, LOL. Hmmm what would a Buick tour bus be like? [you mean it isn't a tour bus? :P] Or even better, a Millenia S tour bus! Hahahah it would probably look like a new Van Hool bus. :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-s@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 3:46 am U.K. Time

Geeze... All I wants is a Canon EOS Rebel G with telephoto lens. Some person on the apple website was talking about a Canon D-60... Anyone want to make a charitable donation to the Home?

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 24th December 3:50 am U.K. Time

Geez guys... I was only paying $350 a YEAR on my '94 Chrysler New Yorker.. and we're only paying $900 a year on our now '02 Chevy Tracker, and that's full coverage (comp and collision), which is a good thing, cuz someone wrecked our car early Thanksgiving morning.. we just got it back yesterday..

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 24th December 3:51 am U.K. Time

If you want hilarious substitutions in a movie here's one I remember from the early 80s. In the broadcast version of 'The Shining', they substitute "I love that son of a bitch" to "I love that son of a buck"...

Watched Scarface (the Al "say hello to my little friend!" Pacino one) on Beta the other day and man was it an ultraviolent cussfest. Just the way I like it.*sniff* *snoooort!* I've seen it run on one of Ted Turner's channels and it's amazing you can show anything of the movie at all. People must have Alzheimers in the censored one cuz they say "forget you" all the time...

This is one of those movies that really looks better NOT in widescreen, as most of this film consists of small groups of people which filmed wide looks distant and remote - as if you couldn't guess I don't like widescreen in general - the first 50 years or so of movies look just fine without it.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 24th December 4:08 am U.K. Time

_@_v - erf! yet another case of a seller splitting up parts of a Beta to sell individually...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15099&item=1947345435

Gets you an SL-HFR 50 VCR $50 start $100 BIN

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15099&item=1947348917

Gets you the HFP-200 HiFi processor $50 start $100 BIN

Like those ripoff NYC electronics stores (that have been "going out of business" for the last 30 years) that try to charge you extra for the accessories that come with the item you're trying to buy.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 24th December 4:20 am U.K. Time

And here's a Beta I've never seen...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1947365264

SL-S680D digital FX Beta built for the Latin American market. This one's a mono beta similar to the SL-810D released in North America


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 5:18 am U.K. Time

That dialectizer thing is funny as all hell. It's odd to see my own messages come through it since I'm usually so very wordy and use big words that are odd to see with that type of dialogue.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 24th December 5:30 am U.K. Time

Re: Widescreen. Since I dupe mostly from DVDs these days, I get my share of letterbox and widescreen films. To me, I have no problems w/ traditional letterbox, but 16x9 widescreen (WS) is often annoying. The latter appears as a thin-width panoramic picture w/ very thick bars. Say you divide the TV screen into four horizonal quadrants. The picture occupies the height of the 2nd & 3rd combined, with the 1st & 4th being the bars. Sometimes it looks to me like part of the frame tops have been "sliced off" when compared to the P&S versions. A good example of this would be a comparison between the P&S and WS DVD versions of (the 1st!) Harry Potter; the Hogwarts train platform scene. In the former, you can see the whole "Platform 9" sign, whereas on the latter, the top third of it is cut off by the top bar (it was the P&S version that went to 遝ta!). Just my 2: *clink* *clink*

BTW: Happy Holidaze ;) Madness


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 5:39 am U.K. Time

Madness, I'll let you in on a little secret we LaserDisc freaks are in on. Lots of movies are made nowadays with a "full-frame" film, showing a TV-ratio picture or very close to it. Then the top and bottom are cropped for the theatrical release, with nothing important being in there, and then those portions are shown on TV ratio systems, so, in some cases you DO get more with full frame, and in others they failed to protect those areas and S/FX don't go into them and you see wires and such in them.

Happy Holidays, everyone!


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 24th December 5:57 am U.K. Time

Sean..

Know anyone that would like to have the first four seasons of Star Trek- Next Generation on LD?? I have the above mentioned set up on fleabay at the moment, but if I got a reasonable offer, I would consider ending the auction early. :)


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 24th December 5:58 am U.K. Time

Yeah Sean, I understand ya 100%. I've gotten both the FF & WS versions of some DVD's to compare (of those that have two separate editions). There's two video stores in my area. One, Blockbuster, often has only the WS's; whereas the other, West Coast Video, often has the FF/P&S (dunno why tho). Two I got both editions of, recently, are Spiderman & Minority Report. I found the FF's of both to more appealing (and therefore to 遝ta!).

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 6:39 am U.K. Time

life in b1 land ain't perfect olive.the shop is demanding the pentagon's national budget to repair my 2100, a model that records no better than vhs.[all of the three units i've had produce the same disappointing rec quality,so it's not a malfuction].my much beloved 900 sits gathering dust because it snacks on tapes when i press anything other than play and one of my 750's has a picture that's more jittery than trent lott at a harlem block party.my remaining 750 is holding down the fort ok but must keep edit switch on to optimize picture quality.and i'm sure your 360 is better than my 600.will likely have to buy a 900 on ebay soon just to recapture the excitement of a properly functioning beta.and no,my dog hasn't died and my wife hasn't left me....yet.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 24th December 7:02 am U.K. Time

Perhaps you would care to make a donation or two to the Olive E Thomas Home For Wayward Betamaxes. A jittery SL-HF 750 beats having no SL-HF 750 and that 'hungry' SL-HF 900 sound like it just needs a little loving 'discipline'. At least your SL-HF 600 is a full channel full stereo VCR, my SL-HF 360 gets only 14 presets, you can't switch off the HiFi and it doesn't have a stereo tuner.

And you might get good Karma for the Betas that remain...


Name: ami
Email:
Aivars.Migla@lattelekom.lv
Tuesday 24th December 8:00 am U.K. Time

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year everybody! Long live our Betas! To Jesse: I said that Dolby NR is not the best possible solution. My own impression is that you get a clearer sound w/out a hiss but somehow it sounds sweety. Each processing brings you more distortion. There may be a loss of information during compressing/expansion process. I agree that Dolby HX Pro is a good invention and it might be good to install it in VCRs into the path of linear audio signal. As for about separate Dolby B/C unit I have happened to see such device on my local flea market. Manufacturer: Nakamichi. Seller asked approx. $ 50.

Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Tuesday 24th December 10:25 am U.K. Time

External Dolby processing would only work if you can prove there is no Auto-Level Control inside your deck's audio recording circuits. If the audio gain varies due to a built-in ALC then forget about calibrating an external unit. The annoying hiss would just turn into hissy breathing noises. For both 遝ta and Very Horrible Sound, linear audio design "hit the wall" but manufacturers didn't care. TV receiver audio design in the 70's was usually cheaper (worse) than it had been in the 50's. So most consumers scarcely noticed that their video decks, even many hifi decks, had audio ALC permanently on. The concensus was that dynamic compression was less annoying than hissy quiet scenes to the stupid masses.

Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Tuesday 24th December 10:52 am U.K. Time

Joel, there is a HF 750 on Fleabay. It's at $101.50 right now. Comes with 2 remotes. The original RMT 148 and a RMT-V676A. The original remote has some problem. I would link it but I've never linked Fleabay stuff; and besides it's 4:45 AM CDT, and I'm goin to bed.

Later. Ppese.

Merry Christmas (whoever she is) and a prosperous new year.


Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Tuesday 24th December 11:06 am U.K. Time

Further to Dolby, most audio cassette decks were shipped with accurate calibration but they only stayed that way as long as the heads were perfectly clean and aligned to the that tape shell. In the Philips-designed shell, alignment is too sloppy so high frequencies drop off quite a bit almost every time. This throws Dolby calibration off big-time so playback seems muddy but hiss-free. Also record bias vs. record volume vs. frequency is a compromise so musical passages peaking just below 0dB can actually saturate the tape at higher frequencies (more mud). Tapes recorded with Dolby HX-Pro and Automatic Tape Bias Calibration are much less affected. If your deck does not have these advancements, take back that new $99 DVD deck under the tree and hit the Boxing Day Sales. Full warehouses of top-line audio cassette decks might be the bargain of the year. Perhaps they have shelves oveflowing with dusty old unopened SL-HF1000 boxes too. Is that an Elcaset down there?

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 12:21 pm U.K. Time

olive,the 750 also blanks video.it's a good candidate for professional repair or parts for my good one.got the job half way done when i replaced the voltage reg.unit was dead before that.my desparate struggle to ressurect the 900 was a 10 year journey into hell.don't have time to tell whole story right now.i'd be lucky to get away with just replacing ace assly and capstan motor.when i get another unit, it will save me a lot on parts.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 12:24 pm U.K. Time

btw, where's that unopened 1000?

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 24th December 2:03 pm U.K. Time

Probably in the same warehouse full of unsold SL-HF 750s that Olive dreams about...

Maybe there's a small video shop somewhere in the middle of Kansas that still has one sitting on it's lonesome in some celler store room... "We'd send it back to Sony, but every time a tornado comes along the feller manages to hold the store in place!"


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 3:25 pm U.K. Time

Yes, Joel I agree with Olive. Send half of the Betas to the Wards Home for Wayward Mazda Millenia S-es, Canon EOS SLRs, And Other Wayward Professional Broadcast and Photographic Equipment and half to the Olive E Thomas Home. I'm sure that the Betas will like it so much better here, and plus its a tax-write off! :) :)

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 3:28 pm U.K. Time

Besides..,.,., even if its busted it will look impressive in my stack. Kinda like having a Millenia with half its engine in its trunk (saw one on ebay few months ago) sitting in the driveway; it doesn't go anywhere but it looks good just the same!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 5:26 pm U.K. Time

I know what you mean, Since before I had my 900 fixed I had it under the Superbeta Dustcover which has now found a home with Ray Glasser of the infoguide. Since my Betas are all under a shelf it doesn't matter anyway. it looked SOOOO good on the 900, even though the 900 wouldn't even keep time!

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Tuesday 24th December 5:58 pm U.K. Time

Are the 2100 and the 2000 built on a similar chassis or is there a difference in quality ?

Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Tuesday 24th December 6:08 pm U.K. Time

Now there is an SL-HF 900 on Ebay for $535.00 BIN, has 2 remotes and owners book. Ebay No.: 1947416227 . someko has it. Is he one of the schnails??

Later. Pepse.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 24th December 6:29 pm U.K. Time

Someko is the selling identity of The Snail himself.

Our man Andy was able to ferret that nugget of info out when Someko tried selling an SL-HF 1000 with one of Andy's repair warranties attached to it.


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 24th December 7:49 pm U.K. Time

Happy Xmas Eve? ;) Anyhow, I actually have an Elcaset deck, 3-head Sony EL-7 (incidently, the Elcaset logo is also variant of the Umatic and original Betamax; like: [E_lcaset]). They made two grades of tapes for it, oxide & chrome, which have red & blue cases, respectively. Problem is that most of the oxide tapes haven't stood up to the ravages of time and are worn & shedding (chromes seem to faired better). My thought here is to get some " reel tape of the same grade and respool the 2 dozen or so I have. Like reel, the EL-7 gives excellent sound quality, especially from CD's (has only Dolby NR). I also have a Sony ES 3-head cassette w/ Dolby S & a minidisc deck.

Regarding the HF2100, I've read that it has separate heads for recording and playback. Therefore, is it possible to actually monitor the videotape as it's being recorded (to compare to source)? Like you can on a 3-head audio deck. Just curious there. ;)


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 7:56 pm U.K. Time

I've seen those Elcaset tapes. One is called "FeCR" which is really funny if you try to pronounce it like a word. Speaking of which, the game "Pac-man" was going to be "Puckman" because the guy was round ike a hockey puck but it was changed when it was discovered that is was easy enough to alter the marquee to something that may have been offensive to some and simply missleading to others.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 8:16 pm U.K. Time

First, I'm glad to know I'm not the only young person into Beta. My parents bought our SL-HF600 in 1985...it predates me by about 6 months! I'm also glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks those new minisystems suck...I start to see spots after standing around that section of Best Buy, Circut City or American for awhile! And none of them have Dolby NR, tape counters or a Norm/CrO2 switch. That's why for cassette recording I stick to my old Marantz SD-321 (of unknown vintage, I got it used, but it's probably from sometime in the 80's) or Sony MHC-2750 minisystem from about 1992 which has Dolby NR and a 5-CD changer which has no problem at all playing CD-Rs. Also I too have noticed that bigger, higher-resolution monitors are less forgiving about the source quality. That's why on our year-old Sony KV-27FV17 27" flatscreen TV, EP VHS recordings and distant over-the-air channels reveal snow and noise that we never saw on our old TVs. Beta, however, has no problem at all!

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 8:20 pm U.K. Time

A quick postscript. I am currently in the process of designing my own 遝tamax web page, and I would like to include photos of as many Beta units as I can. I have quite a few photos on my computer that I obtained from Ebay auctions by right-clicking and selecting "Save picture as", and I would like to know if it's OK for me to use them or does the seller in the auction have some sort of copyright on them?

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@wards.com
Tuesday 24th December 8:20 pm U.K. Time

ugh unless you have parents like mine who really don't care about TV quality... They dint even notice their misconverged Toshiba-tron until I saw thick blue edges all along the edges of my DVD player's text..... :( :(

Name: W.G.B. Spender
Email:
smokyguy@cia.gov
Tuesday 24th December 8:21 pm U.K. Time

About copyright: if anyone asks just say I told you you could use their photos. Not like they'll recognise them anyways. If they cause any trouble we'll just send them a nice Crowne Victoria to pick them up... maybe a Flowers By Irene truck for a nice flower delivery.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 24th December 8:48 pm U.K. Time

For cassette I have two decks, a Pioneer double deck with computer control solenoids so it can be remote controlled, with two kinds of Dolby, (That'll spoil you!) and a rare BIC T1 two-speed with Dolby.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 8:56 pm U.K. Time

fran,keep your eyes peeled.i can testify to the fact that those warehouse situations do occaisionally arise.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 9:00 pm U.K. Time

charles- same family,i'm sure,but i wouldn't bank on same quality.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 9:05 pm U.K. Time

pepse- ziggi had a 900 with a bin of $399. once i agonize sufficiently,i'll probably jump at a similar deal.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 9:13 pm U.K. Time

madness- separate rec/play heads but NOT separate rec /play amps.no simultaneous r/p monitoring.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 24th December 9:20 pm U.K. Time

got an entry level pioneer ct-4 cassette deck . ff and rew don't work but sounds ok still.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 24th December 9:28 pm U.K. Time

I can't imagine anyone seriously using those crapass 'bookshelf' stereo for any serious listening - or VeHoS tapes for serious viewing of movies for that matter .

I'm using a Pioneer stereo system that I inherited from my late brother. He apparently took a swim in the river in Novemeber and didn't surface till the spring of the next year - about a week after his apartment was emptied out by the property management company. Dad managed to save his stereo and a few other things but his vast - and I do mean vast music collection - was tossed into a dumpster (or into the van of whoever was cleaning out his crib). I still have boxes full of cassettes in the celler of American Top 40 tapes he obsessive recorded over the years (he'd record the shows then go out and buy every song that made the Top - 40). Curiously I never found any of records and cassette singles or CD he'd bought - musta took them with him. At any rate I'll never have to buy another box of audio cassette for as long as I live given my current rate of consumption (lessee I think I might've filled exactly one cassette in the last two years)...

It has a pretty nicely tricked out dual cassette with remote control ability and 'CD sync' that lets you synchronize the CD to the tape deck so when you record stuff it cues up properly and if the tape ends it holds the CD while it auto reverses. It records in Dolby HX Pro something but has Dolby B & C. It seems to be a bit mad at me for not using it all that much because I finally go and play it after like months and it was sluggish trying to auto reverse play a tape. I fed the gears some rubbing alcohol and that seems to have gratified it. I also have a nice TEAC V-360C deck with Dolby B & C as well as a 'brilliance' switch - which sorta takes the muffled edge off Dolby noise reduction.


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 24th December 9:33 pm U.K. Time

It's so nice that all of us tasnails have gathered around the electronic campfire during this holiday season...

Name: Mad Beta Collector
Email:
Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com
Tuesday 24th December 10:36 pm U.K. Time

Betamax Machines available for sale, Sony SL-F30 Sanyo VTC5150, VTC5000, Sanyo 9300, SL-C6.

Some vhs (if wanted) offers must be picked up. Cannot deliver or post (sorry) Manchester area


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Wednesday 25th December 3:38 am U.K. Time

eeee yes, Joel I have a Pioneer CT-F1000 or something, its rew/ff dont work but play does. My Dolby gives a little mud, but I like it.. It's a lot better than hisssssssssssssssssssssss.....

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 25th December 3:55 am U.K. Time

Sometimes you want Dolby, sometimes you don't. That's what I've found. 8-tracks get a lot of disrespect because they sonunded awful. Well about 1/2 the equation was the players, which tended to be lousy. There was an 8-track player that had Dolby and it sounded INCREDIBLE.

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Wednesday 25th December 4:52 am U.K. Time

I'd rather endure some hiss than listen to dolby mutilated sound.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 25th December 5:12 am U.K. Time

I understand. Unless there is a lot of noise (Like from some rotten old records I have) I turn Dolby off. I hate car stereos that Default to having it on, I wonder if this is a way they try to sell more CD players because the Dolby only messes with good recordings. It's a nice option but you only need it when you need it.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 25th December 6:55 am U.K. Time

I find that Dolby does muffle the highs abit on some cassette recordings; clears up w/ it off. But these days, I'm mostly burning CD's, so tapes get little use. But here & there.

Also, getting back to beta, I snagged an HF450 off Yahoo! Auctions a day or so ago for $80. That includes remote, 36 tapes & a rewinder. Glad to see there's no $nail$ over there yet; but then there's not many poor betas to prey on, either. ;)

BTW: Merry Xmas! *g*


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Wednesday 25th December 10:47 am U.K. Time

Sez:

You all had 遝ta have a great Holiday. :)


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Wednesday 25th December 12:13 pm U.K. Time

actually,proper reproduction of highs is masked by a cars ambient noise level, especially while driving.therefore,engaging your cars dolby certainly does result in the perception of inaccurate music reproduction. unless you're parked with your motor off.happy holidays everyone!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 25th December 2:57 pm U.K. Time

Whihch is why 8-tracks sounded OK in your car but not in the house. Unless you had a better player. Lots of 8-track players were made by little-known comanies or put in low-end stereos.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@wards.com
Wednesday 25th December 4:16 pm U.K. Time

stop bashing Dolby! LOL! I've managed to build it a good reputation amongst my friends... LOL! I hate hiss... and would rather endure a little mud. Oh well... Merry x-mas everyone!

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Wednesday 25th December 4:57 pm U.K. Time

Funny but I prefer using Dolby for recording only and to kill Dolby on playback...

Somebody (smokey guy?) sent me an RMT-156 for my SL-HF 360 - been using a uni-remote all this time.


Name: alexsatti
Email:
a.sattleder@atn.nu
Wednesday 25th December 6:31 pm U.K. Time

i have a toshiba v31. it looks to work (can watch tv program) but i have problems with the tape... it loads perfekt, then the screen is completely black and then i can see only this snow-storm thing... no picture. i got this vcr from my dad, who gave it to service. but he got it unrepaired back. i tried it today. the tapedeck made scrapy noise. so i opend it and saw, that the drum was opend, and the wires of the 2 heads were cut, so i soldert them, but i didn't get any picture... so can you help me or can i forget it anyways?

please mail me back


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Wednesday 25th December 7:43 pm U.K. Time

Sean, mentioning 8-Tracks reminded me that I have a recording deck stashed away. It's a Realistic w/ a Dolby NR switch on it. I dug it out and connected it up again. Of the dozen or so carts I have for it, I tried a copy of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" since the label indicated that it had been mastered w/ Dolby. I think my system (Sony ES audiostack /w Polk speakers) may've expressed the limitations on the sound of the 8-track. The highs varied w/ Dolby on and off, but I'm guessing the age & possible wear on the tape itself maybe accounted for some degrasion in the sound quality. I've never found any blank carts, so I can't test out how well it records (would like to, tho, say from a CD; give it a run for the money!).

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Wednesday 25th December 7:49 pm U.K. Time

Boy we're all Floyd fans here, aren't we... You wouldn't consider parting with that deck, would you, Madness? I've got lots of goodies to trade!

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Thursday 26th December 1:42 am U.K. Time

Geez Sean, has PF even come out with anything in your lifetime? Even The Wall is 20 years ago now. (Oops, there I go showing my advanced years again.. LOL)

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 26th December 2:00 am U.K. Time

I can think of at least a couple Pink Floyd albums - Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Divsion Bell. I remember seeing a clip of one of the videos to that on the old Beavis and Butthead show - every dramatic striking and artsey visual image the director could think of in one 3.5 minute video....

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 26th December 2:40 am U.K. Time

Floyd's recent stuff doesn't do it for me. I think the band was injured creatively when Waters left. Anyway, back On-topic, I advise you all to avoid tasty offers on used tapes since maybe 1/3 of the used tapes I've got are clogging up the heads in my 900. And I tried the double-speed with normal audio. HA! Oh, that;s something else! HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Thursday 26th December 4:21 am U.K. Time

Usually, frequent clog-ups with old tapes is a sign of head wear. Don't necessarily blame the tapes !

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 26th December 5:31 am U.K. Time

Funny, though, Andy looked at my machine and told me it's a low-head hours machine. It shows no other signs of head wear, and believe me, these are really ROTTEN tapes, they clog up most of my machines occasionally, since the machine they were played in was a sanyo that had a VERY filthy head drum. I mean this thing was RUSTY. it's fine with other old tapes and with new tapse.

Name: Marc Wielage
Email:
mfw@musictrax.com
Thursday 26th December 5:34 am U.K. Time

I'm a U.S. video collector, and I'm looking for two somewhat-obscure PAL-format home video recorders:

the original Philips "VCR" format (circa 1977)

and

the later Philips/Grundig "V2000" format

If anybody has either used machine in reasonable physical condition (working or not, but preferably working), with some blank tapes, please contact me via Email and perhaps we can work out an offer.

Thanks very much!

--Marc Wielage mfw@musictrax.com Chatsworth, CA USA


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Thursday 26th December 5:49 am U.K. Time

The only old beta tapes that I've heard shed like mad are those made by Ampex (standards, tho, not betacam). Seems ironic (to me) that the company that *invented* the VTR would put out such crappy tapes. Sean, maybe try some betacams? I've gotten of used ones in various brands and can't remember having any trouble w/ a single one!

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Thursday 26th December 6:01 am U.K. Time

Marc: The "VCR" VCR was marketed in the US but VERY briefly. I've only seen a tape for sale here ONCE and never a machine. If you can find one of those you'll be a HAPPY boy. Good luck. I'll give you the standard speech for anything hard to find: http://www.ebay.com/ Give that a try. They have a UK specific site too.

Madness: Yeah, kinda funny about the Ampex tapes, considering they did produce the first practical VTR. No, these tapes were ABUSED by the machine, lots of them are unusable due to stretching, scalloping, other errors. I have to open the flipper on each one before I even try to use it. it's the tapes only, the 900, like I said, shows no other signs of head wear, i.e. it plays perfectly, even if you deliberately mis-adjust the tracking, it has a good still frame, low noise, etc, whereas my 600 has very worn heads, and thusly has touchy tracking, bad betascan, etc.


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Thursday 26th December 7:03 am U.K. Time

Is it the 900 that's causing those tape problems? Maybe it needs a new pinch roller?

Name: Pepse
Email:
jmsekola@chibardun.net
Thursday 26th December 7:40 am U.K. Time

Madness, I think Rat Shack still sells 8 track blank tapes.

As for Pink Floyd, I don't think Waters leaving hurt the musical or lyrical aspects of the band. I've been listening to Floyd since'69, and have enjoyed every album. Yea, I know, old enough to be a granddad to some of you. As for Floyd I came across a video (the other format), when looking for an old ST Voyager episode, that I recorded off air about 14+ years ago and I don't remember what's on it and now I gotta go back thru my boxes and get it out; I set it to the side and ended up putting it back in a box of tapes. Sean, Jesse?, I will record that "Live Recorded at Pompeii" as soon as I replace the No.1 fuse in my HF 450.

As for used tapes I stay away from commercial tapes and buy new or used Betacams. Never had any probs with them.

Later. Pepse.


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Thursday 26th December 12:27 pm U.K. Time

Hey, here's a rather unique item for beta fans, a set of Japanese art beta coasters:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35&item=750265952


Name: Jean-Manue ESNAULT
Email:
esnault.wdomu@libertysurf.fr
Thursday 26th December 3:08 pm U.K. Time

Hello all ... I'm really new to this land. I've been observing ebay for some weeks and all i can see is that pal vcr are mainely sold in germany, but I just don't understand german. And Altavista translator isn't very helpfull in that specific domain. Even if I'm living in france, I'm searching for a PAL betamax VCR. A pitty betacam are not reading Betamasx, I have plenty of Betacam player here at work (I'm a video technician in the french third TV chanel).

I have four 750 tapes that i want to transfert onto digital (through a professional tbc with noise reduction) in the goal of making a dvd. (for more details on the project you can see my site http://www.live-aid.info)

So : where is it possible ot buy with confidence a pal betamax vcr (no need to have a stereo deck as the audio will be processed separately) in europe ? And what are the expected prices ?

OK,; the question has been asked thousands of times, but it's christmas time isn't it ? Be kind and answer me again ;-)))

All the best for the new year.

bientot Jean-Manuel


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 26th December 4:27 pm U.K. Time

There is a Dutch website that has a section devoted to PAL/SECAM Beta VCRs but if you have problems with the German I don't suppose Dutch is going to be any better as the Babelfish can't even handle Dutch...

http://www.marktplaats.nl/print.php3?g=video&u=betamaxrecorders

If you want to have a look anyway.


Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Thursday 26th December 10:27 pm U.K. Time

Finally it's a good thing we can't put rental tapes anymore in our betas. They're the "best" rotten tapes available !

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Thursday 26th December 10:31 pm U.K. Time

You might also try the PALsite Directory page http://www.palsite.info/directory.html which lists sources for Beta-related items worldwide

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Thursday 26th December 11:47 pm U.K. Time

That's why I;ve stopped renting tapes and stick to DVDs. I'd rather have my DVD player thunking its laser back and forth in confusion than have clogged Spamsung heads. Played back part of "The Shining" (the silly ABC version) on my SL-2000 to give it some exercise. It HATES anything recorded by the 300... Wonder why? My 300 made an absolutely perfect copy of "Divine Secrets of Ya-ya Sisterhood." The tracking got a little off near the end, but otherwise it was a PERFECT dub. I hate the way S-video makes component look all dark. I had watched part of it from S-video and when I look at the Beta dub it looks really dark compared to s-vid. I've never had any Ampex vidi-tape, Vehos or Beta. Someone here told me they came in red shells, is it true? I want one.. :) Hmmm Olive since Dolby is always on (congrats to auto manf. that make it default-on) here in my house; I tried playing back a tape on a deck that doesn't have it. I still hear hisssss, it's only slightly cut down. Is it me or are these idiotic new bookshelf systems, etc. esp designed to respond to the higher-end of the spectrum? I hear some bass, but it seems that they are optimised for the high freqs of the audio. It annoys the heck outta me how treble and mids are always really high and bass is just near the middle. The same with these projection TVs... Ugh!

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Thursday 26th December 11:53 pm U.K. Time

Hey there! After catching up on the BetaInfoGuide, site, the "Betadied" section, I came up w/ this: http://members.verizon.net/~madness2/betapark.gif

;)


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 27th December 12:00 am U.K. Time

Well I have the equilizers on my stereo set with the bass and mids on max with the treble set to the center detent position so most of the hiss isn't gonna be there.

Man did we get wholloped this Christmas. Whiter than Micheal (I'll drop you like a bad habit kid!) Jackson out there. 24 inches of snow where we were. At least I think it was snow... could just be some GE asbestos or fallout from the nuclear power lab being released again...


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 27th December 12:30 am U.K. Time

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL94/418976/451978/10298988.jpg

I want my Betamax back..... NOW!


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 27th December 1:10 am U.K. Time

Isn't that from the episode that was a parody of "The Road Warrior"? Where Butters makes the Humongous made? Or am I immagining that... I KNOW I want my betamax back but I don't think it's gonna happen.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 27th December 1:37 am U.K. Time

There was a site that let you make your own South Park characters but I think it's gone now...

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Friday 27th December 1:49 am U.K. Time

Yikes! $125 for an SL-2415. The bid history shows a jump from $55 to $125 so the poor sap who won this was clearly bidding against the reserve. I wonder if he thought "I'll bid a high price but there's now way the reserve will rise to meet it..."

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=1946700811


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Friday 27th December 2:10 am U.K. Time

If it's NIB oe close to it it's probably worth it. Not bad for a NEW VCR. and a talker. That't the outside for one of that caliber in that condition. In lesser shape the price drops sharply.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 27th December 5:13 am U.K. Time

Franny, the SP studio site is here: http://southpark.gamesweb.com/flash/spstudio.html

I just juiced mine up a bit in paintshop pro. ;)


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 27th December 5:22 am U.K. Time

The 2415 talker eh? I could just see some dude setting the timer (after reviewing the maual 5 times!)when it says, "Hey doofus, there's no tape loaded! EZ-Beta indeed!", when he goes to activate it. :) :)

Name: Charles Joly
Email:
charjol@hotmail.com
Friday 27th December 5:30 am U.K. Time

Jesse, what is it that is wrong with the ABC version of The Shining ?? The version I saw on TV was only missing one part where the Danny's doctor talks with Wendy, which scene while being very relevant in the book has nothing to do with the movie. I ultimately bought the DVD version of this excellent movie. IMHO the best movie from a Stephen King novel.

Here's one for everyone. What's the preferred recording source of people who thinks analog has more overall qualities than digital ??


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 27th December 8:10 am U.K. Time

Laserdisc?

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Friday 27th December 10:28 am U.K. Time

Anyone interested in all but the last ep of "The Prisoner" on LD?

Also have the first four seasons of Star Trek- Next Generation on LD..


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 27th December 11:43 am U.K. Time

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/olive_e_thomas/vwp?.dir=/Goofy+Olive+stuff&.src=ph&.dnm=South_Park_Ollie.jpg

Dammit Mr Garrison! I told you not to let Mr. Hand make fun of my Betamovie!


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Friday 27th December 12:24 pm U.K. Time

Poor Kenny gets so much ribbing from Cartman about how his family's so goddamn poor that all they can afford is Betamovie...

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/olive_e_thomas/vwp?.dir=/Goofy+Olive+stuff&.src=ph&.dnm=Kenny%27s_Betamie.jpg


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Friday 27th December 8:11 pm U.K. Time

So then Kenny gets killed (again!), Kyle picks up the Betamie, points it at Cartman as he says, "Damn Cartman, you are such a fat-***; good thing this Betamie has a wide-angle lens!" :) :)

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Friday 27th December 11:30 pm U.K. Time

jesse, i find the most reliable way of dubbing dvd's is using a sima model scc color corrector.not only does it defeat dvd macrovision,it features controls for tint,color,sharpness,brightness,contrast,blue,green and red for a little over $100.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia@wards.com
Saturday 28th December 1:28 am U.K. Time

eeeeeeeeeeeee LOL now I've got you all saying Betamie... :)

Name: Aud Lehner
Email:
alehner@carolina.rr.com
Saturday 28th December 1:36 am U.K. Time

Very new here - and reading with interest - question: what's the Snail? There must be a juicy story here. I've been looking on ebay and am very confused - don't know if I should be hunting for a SL-HF750 or 900 or what........my (don't laugh) SL-5600 just started eating my tapes and the one most important is of my mom a few weeks before she died. Never got around to copying it on another format. Hello to all.......be kind.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 28th December 2:31 am U.K. Time

The Snail is this fellow on E-bay named Snaling who buys up all the HiFi tas he can so as to create a shortage. He then resells them at ridiculously high prices - because he can....

"he-snailies want to be him... she-snailies want to be with him! He's The International Snail of Mystery!"....

If the videoheads aren't worn to nubs on that Sl-5600 (a pretty good ta for it's era I am told) you might be able to curtail it's nibbliness by cleaning or replacing some of the tires and /or belts. Often just sanding the surface crust off the idler tires and idler post will do the trick.

The older pre-1982/3 tas used a lot of rubber bits in them. After then Sony miniaturised their flagship models to the point that the only rubber bits were on the ejector mechanism and the pinch roller.


Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Saturday 28th December 2:38 am U.K. Time

Even better than the color/timebase corrector you talked about is the Daewoo 5800 DVD player available for about $160 from an outfit called 220-electronics.com. It has hardware defeat of all Myecchrovision, and will play discs from any region. And can be set to output in NTSC or PAL. Truly a player for all seasons. I get flawless backups of my discs from it.

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 28th December 2:44 am U.K. Time

Looks like somebody found a pack of SL-HF 1000 kibbles 'n bits in the cellar or something

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=ares-lucy&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25


Name: Aud Lehner
Email:
alehner@carolina.rr.com
Saturday 28th December 3:10 am U.K. Time

Thanks for the info Franny. I'll take a look at the "nubs" and see if I can whisk them away. My local VCR doctor says it's a goner, but I hate to throw it out until it gasps. It was always so reliable and no problems and then whoosh.....

Name: Rick Sauywer
Email:
rick_sauywer@hotmail.com
Saturday 28th December 4:39 am U.K. Time

Hello I was wondering if I could ask a question about my Sanyo VCR 7200B. I just bought it used, when you eject the tape it does not roll back into the cassette. It does not appear to be getting stuck on anything, however it appears that it is simply not being wound into the tape. I pressed on the tape sensor to fool the vcr into thinking there was a tape in it, when I hit eject I could see the wheels turning as if it were rolling in a tape. Any help you might be able to give would be greatly appreciated.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@nixdorfcomputer.com
Saturday 28th December 4:58 am U.K. Time

yuck! never had a Spamyo that worked rite. Yes, it will twirl the reel drivers but not spin them strong enough to reel loose tape back in. Most likely that idiotic little belt it has under its idler has gone bad, just like the tyre. Replace 'em both; this has fixxed a couple Spamyos I had that did that. Right after I replace idler they both died...... GE luck!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@nixdorfcomputer.com
Saturday 28th December 5:01 am U.K. Time

Is it all right to send Santa an (-explosive/incendiary [spelled rite?] device-) if we didn't get what we wanted? How about a can of snails? I asked for a snail tie and some snail curtains.. Didn't get em! And i dunnaux if I told u guys, but not one beta related item under the tree! Everyone help me get $300. I want to snatch the "Nixdorf" trademark up for my very own.. No one has renewed it since 1996. I want it cuz Im gonna start selling computers under the nixdorf name.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Saturday 28th December 5:14 am U.K. Time

Couldn't build some "Nixdorf" Betas could ya? ;)

But seriously folks: Brenda, yeah, Daewoo does make some nice DVD players. I have a 3000 myself and it's a stylish little thing. They're all region-/macro-free or easy to hack to do so. Generally most betas are macro-immune, I think, but there's been a few differing opinions over different models. Who was it awhile back that mentioned that the HF1000 put red lines in the picture from a DVD dupe? I tried it myself w/ a Playstation 2 and got the same. I would also agree that I'd rather kill the macrovision at the source rather than putting anything else inline to further manipulate the video signal after it leaves the player. I also use a set of high-quality gold A/V cables for best possible transfer. Never been disappointed. :)


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Saturday 28th December 5:56 am U.K. Time

RE: the VCR-7200B with the 'ejectile dysfunction'....

I concur with Jesse in that it's the idler tyres and/or the idler belt gone bad. In the Sanyos I've seen it always seems to be the top tyre...

Just about the easiest fix in the world for a do it your selfer...

http://www.iglou.com/studiosound/index.htm sells 'tune-up kits' for Sanyo and other VCRs.


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 28th December 9:34 am U.K. Time

sima unit aint the ideal solution, just the cheapest reliable one.wouldn't mind getting a"hacked" dvd player .where can i get one with a PROGRESSIVE SCAN output and how much do they go for?heard someone was marketing software to defeat encryption but voluntarily withdrew it.what name was it sold under in computer stores? how do you go about "hacking" a unit? heard about the apex player years ago{but too late to get one!}.

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 28th December 9:46 am U.K. Time

on the apex,all you needed to enable all the regions and defeat the encryption was its remote and menu

Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 28th December 9:58 am U.K. Time

thanks brenda.checked site.found progressive players.

Name: mad doctor
Email:
colinjudd@primus.com.au
Saturday 28th December 11:28 am U.K. Time

For Olive,Thank you for the address re the Sanyo reoair address,much appreciated,

Name: Roderick
Email:
roderick@stagesafety.com
Saturday 28th December 12:59 pm U.K. Time

If anyone needs help with that Dutch Betamax auction site, just email me. Happy to translate. A few hints:

banden = tapes

teab = best offer

Aangeboden = for sale

Gezocht = wanted


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Saturday 28th December 9:54 pm U.K. Time

teab schnell=buy it now? gesundheit=the price is nothing to sneeze at?

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 28th December 10:06 pm U.K. Time

'Dutch' and Deusche are fairly similar...

Anyway snailies...

Found another nice Japanese Betasite with lots of piccys including a section with ED-Beta tasties...

http://savage99.hp.infoseek.co.jp/bobura/au.htm

"AUDIO ARCHAEOLOGY super phoniex" (Phoenix?)

There are several pages of the various audio formats inclucing that Elcaset format

Be warned that there a persistant little pop-up window that keeps showing up, but the pages are worth nthe nuisance...


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 28th December 11:34 pm U.K. Time

A Japanese Snailie's edit suite?

http://betamax.imosuke.com/imoroom.htm

It's very good to be The Snail


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Saturday 28th December 11:58 pm U.K. Time

Beta? Macintosh?

Beta Macs...

Betamax...

http://homepage1.nifty.com/maasan/mac_beta.html


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 29th December 12:08 am U.K. Time

Image the sight and sounds of an SL-HF 950 (or similar) opening and closing...

http://homepage.mac.com/maasann/movies/MOV00027.MPG


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 29th December 1:19 am U.K. Time

_@_技 - eee???

How to pages on turning ordinary tas to HiBand tas????

http://homepage1.nifty.com/Sony/MainTenance/MyMainte_4.html - run that through The Fish...

Andy Sanchez are you still checking in on this page?


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 29th December 2:05 am U.K. Time

think maybe andy's been kidnapped by chucky?

Name: Rick Sauywer
Email:
rick_sauywer@hotmail.com
Sunday 29th December 4:00 am U.K. Time

I appreciate all the help and insight on this problem. I'm def. going to be replaceing the parts and see what happens.

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@nixdorfcomputer.com
Sunday 29th December 4:35 am U.K. Time

spamyos suck. hey brenda what model is the Die-eww player? It seems that Cacavision has come up with a new format of it that messes up even Betas. My SL-2000 seems to be the only one resistant to it (if its in a good mood).

Name: Leonard
Email:
russ@virtualhosts.net
Sunday 29th December 4:54 am U.K. Time

I have been reading here, and only felt compelled to post as of now. I own 5 Sanyo Beta VCRS. They all have been rock solid performers, and absolutely reliable too. All have required service, but only for things that are normal wear and tear (belts). I own 2 Sanyo VCR-7250's, a VCR-7200, A VCR-7300, and VCR-7150. All are Beta HIFI VCRs, the 7250's are Superbeta HIFI and I must say they perform as well as my Sony Superbeta units , especially the Sanyo 7250's. I don't see where you are coming from , it sounds like you have no experience with the Sanyo units and just some dud units. I have owned these machines since new and all have been great working units. Take care, don't listen to what others say about Sanyo Betacords. Leonard.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 29th December 6:35 am U.K. Time

Loenard: I can't really say anything bad about the Sanyos as of now. Prior, I didn't have an opinion one way or the other since I never owned any till recently. The first is a VCR7250 I acquired cheap a few months back that had loading troubles. Replaced the belts & tires and now it works fine; even records well.

The second deck is a VCR7300! And I gotta say that I really love that one. It looks too much like one of those older boomboxes w/ deteachable speakers; only w/o them. Is it supposed to just sit vertically? Cuz that's how mine's sitting now on the TV. and it's all self-contained, whatwith having the tuner built-in and all.

3rd is a VCR4400 is picked up at the Goodwill about a week back. It's not hifi, but it was cheap and I never had a non-portable top-loader in my collection, so I snagged it. Works fine, also, and came w/ the corded remote.


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Sunday 29th December 7:45 am U.K. Time

_@_v -eeeeee! 2 SL-2700s and 2 AG-500 Betastackers!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1948547393


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Sunday 29th December 8:17 am U.K. Time

my first beta hi-fi was a sanyo 7200.no complaints about the picture,and the audio was excellent.sold it to my brother in law 4 months later when sony introduced slhf400 superbeta.idler tires needed non-slip fluid about 2 years later.

Name: Brenda Ann Dyer
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Sunday 29th December 9:20 am U.K. Time

That Daewoo is a model DVD 5800, and as I said is available at 220-electronics.com

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 29th December 10:04 am U.K. Time

Two SL2700/AG500 combos for the price of one?? I would think the latter would also fit the SL2710, with it having a jack on the rear for it. Now I could just picture a DVD changer w/ four or five disks in it hooked up to the 2710 and a pile of blank tapes loaded in the AG500. No muss, no fuss for successive duping?

Name: nnils
Email:
nnils@telus.nospam.net
Sunday 29th December 10:21 am U.K. Time

Another view on Sanyos. I chose Beta for picture quality but I chose my first top load Sanyo VCR4000 because of price. I paid only half as much as the equivalent basic Sony, but it was a floor model. Next a Sanyo front load VCR4030, $150 US, last one Woolco had. Just quit threading a few weeks ago so getting rubber from iglou.com to see what happens. Looks easy enough if it works. I used to fix Sanyo mini-cassette dictating equipment and found them to be much less expensive than Sony, but easier to repair.

At least every Beta I can think of was made in Japan. Country of origin is at least as important as brand name. When any reputable manufacturer starts to ship a product labelled "made in third world", watch out. The primary focus of that product is now cost, not quality. If they aim for cheapest labour you can be sure they stick cheapest components inside too. Third world employees work at least as hard but garbage parts in = garbage product out. Perhaps in the end Sony chose to kill beta altogether rather than to a BeThaiMax when the accounting became an issue.


Name: Mattias Kauhanen
Email:
matkau@spray.se
Sunday 29th December 2:24 pm U.K. Time

Hello!

I磛e recently picked up an old Videocamera. It磗 a Sony HVC-2000P. It should operate together with a SL-3000 recorder. The problem is that I did not get such a recorder together with teh camera. And nobody knows where the recorder might be today. Therefore I ask if an of you people know if it磗 possible to connect it to a VHS-recorder. There is a Sony type K-connector on the cable from the camera. Does anyone know what the pins are? Which are videosignal and audio and so on? Please send me an email If anonen happens to know.I would be very thankful for help of anykind! //Mattias matkau@spray.se


Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 29th December 3:33 pm U.K. Time

As luck would have it...

PALsite has K-connector pinouts...

http://www.palsite.com/kcon.html

and Olive was able to kludge together a breakout box and camera power supply out of an AC-adapter that goes to SL-2000(SL-F1) VCRs.

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/thebetamaxvideographer/lst?.dir=/AC-220+Conversion&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t

You can also use that camera with any VCR that has the K-connector, including the very popular SL-F1 portable or SL-C9 home unit.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@nixdorfcomputer.com
Sunday 29th December 4:47 pm U.K. Time

Well I hate Spamyos because of their idiot red channel and button backlites. I like the TT-2000's green lamps instead of those stupid red ones. Red just gets on my nerves. Another thing is that they are ugly. Not like the SL-HF300, or the SL-2000. AND, they thread/unthread the tape each time you press play/stop. EEeeeee! Look who slapped their gastropod on my auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=268&item=2903151946&rd=1 and I just barely put it up last night!!!!!

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@nixdorfcomputer.com
Sunday 29th December 4:50 pm U.K. Time

seems I've finally got The Snail snailed... I think I'll pour grease all over the front cover of it just to spite him... Or send it a week later.... Or say that it got lost..... Anyone got any spare incendiary devices I can sendim? Eeee~! Let's all write nasty notes to the Snail. I'll know where he lives now!

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 29th December 6:19 pm U.K. Time

Send him some old Mortons Salt ads and watch him shrivel up....

Name: shewolf
Email:
star111597@hotmail.com
Sunday 29th December 8:43 pm U.K. Time

I have a Sony Betamax SLHF300. I have never used it before! Now that I want to use it, the beta will not take the tape that I am trying to play! Can someone please help me and tell me whats wrong with my machine! Or help me find a place where I can get it looked at! I am in Cleveland, Ohio. Thank You SHEWOLF

Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@wards.com
Sunday 29th December 10:48 pm U.K. Time

Send it to the Wards Home for Wayward Mazda Millenia S-es, Betamaxes, and other outcast Professional Equipment... Sounds like it needs a little 'tough love.' :) :) Or, ask Andy to fixx it...

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Sunday 29th December 10:58 pm U.K. Time

Yannow, I just got an HF450. Maybe you could tell $nailman it got lost and send it to me? *vbg*

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Sunday 29th December 10:59 pm U.K. Time

The closest repair places to Cleveland according to the PALsite directory... http://www.palsite.com/directory.html

Karl Kosower Electronics Services 575 East Line Road, Ballston Spa, NY 12020.

Tel: 617-332-8484.

Don-Lors Electronics 31625 W. Eight Mile, Livonia, MI 48152.

Tel: 248-477-6402, Fax: 248-477-4697.

531 S. Mill, Plymouth, MI 48170.

Tel:734-455-3011, Fax:734-455-3771

Web: http://www.don-lors.com/ Electronic Technician Services 1025 N.Northwest Hwy, Park Ridge, IL 60068.

Tel: 847-692-7018. High Quality Video Repair 6100 Lincoln Ave, Morton Grove, IL 60063.

Tel: 847-673-8277, 847-966-9772.


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@wards.com
Monday 30th December 3:16 pm U.K. Time

Anyone want King snalie's home address? How about e-mail? We can all sign a nasty letter and send it to him or something....

Name: Leonard
Email:
russ@virtualhosts.net
Monday 30th December 4:58 pm U.K. Time

That's another that has bothered me about this forum. Why are you people gleeting about this person who buys and sells Betas on EBay? There is something called market value. From what it looks like you have a problem with this because you either don't want to pay what is true market value, or you few select people who post alot on here are simply cheapskates. I myself have bought some items off EBay, including Beta VCR's over the years. I have paid high, and I have paid low. It all comes down to what people are willing to pay. It is not the seller who is setting the market value, it is those who purchase said item. I'd get over it if I were you. Alot of us who read this chat page get tired of this. I know I am not alone. Leonard.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Monday 30th December 5:25 pm U.K. Time

I believe I've done this before, but once again I will put in my 2 cents defending Sanyo Betas. My VCR-4030 records in SuperBeta with picture quality that equals that of the Sony SL-HF600. VCR-4027 seems to have slightly off colors (still better than VHS, but not quite the same brilliant true colors I get from the 600 and 4030). I think when the 4027 came out in 1986 Sanyo, Toshiba, NEC, Zenith and all the other makers other than Sony were giving up on Beta so the quality may have started going downhill a bit. My VCR-4650 doesn't record with the same picture quality as the others but that's to be expected as it's the only non-SuperBeta in the bunch. It does have the rubber idler/belt problem, but that will be an easy fix once I finally get around to ordering the parts. Plus in my opinion the red displays look cool, and unthreading after hitting STOP saves head wear when rewinding. AND I bought my 4027 and 4650 at a flea market for a total of $15, and I once saw a VCR-4400 at a St. Vinny's thrift store for $15 as well. I have yet to see a Sony Beta at a thrift store, flea market or garage sale, only on Ebay where they are easy Snail prey.

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Monday 30th December 5:50 pm U.K. Time

The problem with The Snail is that he is using his buying power to manipulate the Beta market by creating a false 'shortage' of Betas. He aslo has the advantage of being able to lie in wait for whatever he wants to snap at anything that someone else might be bidding on. It's likely by now that most of the Snails have auction software that can snipe at what they want without The Snail having to be at his computer. If it weren't for the dealers bidding against each other and their customers for the same stock, prices would find their true level. It's interesting to note that in Europe were there aren't nearly as many Betas around or for sale , prices aren't as stratospheric as they seem to be in the US because of the Snails.

In addition, with the Snails you don't get to set the price in terms of a bid. With high starts, reserves and BINs in most of the Snail 'auctions' you're buying, not bidding for product. Why do most Snails have one bidding ID and another Selling ID? Is it because they rely on a level of ignorance on the part of their customers (suckers)about the true nature of E-bay Beta prices? That seems to be the operating practice in most businesses today. Enron used similar Snail tactics to drive up energy prices in California a couple years ago...


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-S@wards.com
Monday 30th December 9:12 pm U.K. Time

Nooo.. we're just being cheapskates.... grrrrr!

Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Monday 30th December 11:39 pm U.K. Time

It isn't 'market' value when the dealers buy up all the cheaper Betas to resell at obscenely high prices, that they can justify because they've locked customers out of the cheaper stuff...

As for the Snail... it seems he's cobbling Betas together for various units - like the all silver SL-HF 500 that's obviously been repackaged in an SL-HF 300's cabinet - and fobbing them of as 'Near Mint'...

And what's wrong with wanting to pay less? Especially if you don't feel the prices reflect fair market value?


Name: Emil Jensen
Email:
c.l@teliamail.dk
Tuesday 31st December 12:31 am U.K. Time

Hey all! I got a little problem with my Sony SL-C9E beta! When not used one day or so.. The drummotor make this this horrible sound.. Like a bearing is dry.. But it do not affect playback/recording picture.. It go away after approx 30 sec of use...! Allright.. that was the first problem.. My second is: Some how the Normal/X2 tracking have "driftet" In the center its not the optimal playback picture.. A little "snow" is shown! But when i adjust it.. A perfect noise free picture is found.. Also in X2 speed! Does anybody know where the adjustment is made.. I have tried the control head.. No luck! :(

Best Regards

Emil Jensen

PS: Hope someone can help me.. And make my Beta live for some other years!


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-s@wards.com
Tuesday 31st December 1:11 am U.K. Time

blaaagghh! Went to CommunitGE thrift store and found a DBX type II NR unit, and also a dynamic range expander. Morons wanted $19,19 for the NR unit, and $31 for the dynamix expander. It had 3 rows of cool looking LEDs... Hee hee hee!

Name: Franny Wentzel
Email:
franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk
Tuesday 31st December 2:09 am U.K. Time

Inside there should be a TRACON potentiometer adjustment potentiometer. Also there is a FREE CAP adjustment as well.

Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 31st December 2:16 am U.K. Time

TRACON can fix out-of-center tracking or sometimes compensate for worn heads or the like, CAP FREE (One for each speed the machine can play, usually 3 speeds so three pots) adjust will take care of weird errors and compatibility issues. If it's maladjusted it results in rhythmic pulses on the screen, sometimes no Beta HiFi and off-speed audio, which you may not notice because the video will screw up long before the audio SOUNDS off-speed.

Name: Andy W.
Email:
vespanidus@aol.com
Tuesday 31st December 2:58 am U.K. Time

Well I just got back from hitting the thrift stores again today, and I have 21 new Beta tapes in my collection. 18 prerecorded ones and 3 L-750s. I got somebody's entire John Wayne collection, including Sagebrush Trail, The Shootist, Paradise Canyon, True Grit, 'Neath the Arizona Skies, Lawless Frontier, The Star Packer, Blue Steel, and Desert Trail. The other titles are Fletch, Police Academy 3-Back In Training, Space Camp, Time Bandits, Star Trek Episode 18-The Squire Of Gothos, Murphy's Romance, Barbarella, Iron Maiden-Behind The Iron Curtain (A Sony Video EP) and Disney's One Magic Christmas. All but 2 of these tapes came from the same St. Vinnys (Full name: St. Vincent De Paul Thrift Store) and the other 2 from a Goodwill. That St. Vinny's also had a Sony Dynamicron L-750 in one of those folding tape cases that according to the label contains My American Cousin and Armed Response. In between these two stores I stopped at a small photo/video store called The Camera Company and lo and behold, on the bottom of their videotape shelf, were two Sony L-750BT tapes still in their blue and gold shrink wrap.

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.computersarefun
Tuesday 31st December 3:38 am U.K. Time

Here's a wierd one...

Was recording off my Dish Network via RF inputs (through an A/B RF switcher, so I can record from regular cable or the Dish via the same RF input on the VCR...)with my SL-HF1000. Sound came out fine-picture was completely black. Switched over to regular cable, and the recording was fine. Would a problem in the cable from the Dish box to the switcher account for that? I know there's nothing wrong with the 1000, since it records from regular cable OK. I know the cable from the switcher to the 1000 is good, since regular cable (on channel 3, which is the RF out channel from the Dish) records OK. Am I forgeting to check anything? This one kinda confuses me...


Name: Jesse Alonzo
Email:
millenia-s@wards.com
Tuesday 31st December 3:54 am U.K. Time

Well... Sounds like a unfixxable flaw ;).. Might as well send it to the Wards Home For Wayward Mazda Millenia S-es, Betamaxes, and other Outcast Professional Audio/Video Equipment :) I'm sure the other residents will really love it. It can be a good role model for the SL-HF300!

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.computersarefun
Tuesday 31st December 4:28 am U.K. Time

Jesse-

I KNEW you were going to say that!!! :-)

Sorry, but I believe that the best discipline comes from the parents. To send my 1000 off to a home for wayward Beta's would hurt it's self-esteem, and make it more difficult to assimilate into society later. It's going to be tough love, but I think I'll keep it here until it learns to behave...

Phil


Name: Sean Meskill
Email:
smeskill@attbi.comebackformore
Tuesday 31st December 5:10 am U.K. Time

Jesse, I don't know how serious your little organization is but I have two potential candidates... they both need a little "medical Rehabilitation" so to speak... One is a Toshiba Betamax deck with loading drive problems (Gear has come loose from shaft, NEEDS lube) and the other is a U-matic with problems on its PW1 board needing several fuses and wires replaced... Here are links.

http://www.betainfoguide.com/Pix6.htm

scroll down to Toshiba, it's the VM40

http://www.labguysworld.com/Cat_Sony007.htm

And the 'Matic-mie. he's the VO-2600. it's the EXACT one in the photo.


Name: joel schwartz
Email:
joedisco@aol.com
Tuesday 31st December 6:20 am U.K. Time

had a similar problem for a few hours once with my digital cable box .seems my box had a macrovision option which was unintentionally activated by the cable company.

Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 31st December 7:00 am U.K. Time

Phil: Have you tried connecting the Sat receiver up to the 1000 via the A/V jacks and putting it in line mode? I gotta DirecTV hooked to mine and it's perfect. I'm recording a movie off Starz right now as a matter-a'-fact.

Andy: Nice score from the thrift shops! I've been lucky myself in that department as past-mentioned. :)


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 31st December 10:21 am U.K. Time

To phil: Are you sure the RF-out on the Dish box was set to 3 and not set to 2 or 4? And that the RF switch was set all the way? And that you didn't put the antennae-in cable into theTV-out plug or vice versa(it happens to the best of us sometimes)?

Try swapping cables or switch positions to root out problems in those areas.


Name: Madness
Email:
madness@somethingorother.com
Tuesday 31st December 10:28 am U.K. Time

Here's an interesting deck, an SL-T7ME on weeeebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3303484591&category=2286


Name: Olive E Thomas
Email:
olive_e_thomas@yah靠.n縮pam.c縨
Tuesday 31st December 11:01 am U.K. Time

Too bad the NTSC that uses is the wierd 4.43 format and not the 3.38 that the US uses.

Name: Phil
Email:
H2oskiphil@aolnospam.computersarefun
Tuesday 31st December 12:58 pm U.K. Time

Thanks for all the ideas...

1) I can't use the line outs on the Dish receiver, because they're hooked up via S-video cable to my home theatre system. Tf the receiver had 2 sets of line outs, I'd be golden-I HATE using RF cable for anything but cable TV. 2) I tried switching the RF in on the 1000 to channel 4, just to see if I bumped anything on the Dish receiver when I was moving it around...no luck on either channel. 3) The weird thing is that I'm getting audio, but no video.

I'm going to replace the RF from the Dish receiver to the switcher and see if that clears things up...


Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 31st December 3:23 pm U.K. Time

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Name: Brenda Ann
Email:
brendad@shinbiro.com
Tuesday 31st December 3:24 pm U.K. Time

Well.. that was a whole lot of work for nothing.. :(

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!